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Title: Hasbro FIRES Diversity Hires
Post by: RPGPundit on February 15, 2023, 06:31:42 AM
Hasbro still hasn't fired Kyle Brink, but they have just fired an entire continent of (presumably 'latinx') employees.


Title: Re: Hasbro FIRES Diversity Hires
Post by: tenbones on February 15, 2023, 10:11:00 AM
Jesus Christ... WotC is really just a shitshow of epic proportions. Well I guess all the chickens are finding their way home. We'll just enjoy the show.

Title: Re: Hasbro FIRES Diversity Hires
Post by: Brad on February 15, 2023, 10:22:10 AM
"Latinx" is the most egregious example of outright Marxist destruction of a language possible. Also, LOL at getting fired because you literally ignore your target market and focus on the dumbest stuff possible.
Title: Re: Hasbro FIRES Diversity Hires
Post by: Svenhelgrim on February 15, 2023, 10:26:27 AM
Quote from: tenbones on February 15, 2023, 10:11:00 AM
Jesus Christ... WotC is really just a shitshow of epic proportions. Well I guess all the chickens are finding their way home. We'll just enjoy the show.

In other news, popcorn sales are at an all time high...
Title: Re: Hasbro FIRES Diversity Hires
Post by: ~ on February 15, 2023, 10:26:51 AM
*Learn to Code!*
Title: Re: Hasbro FIRES Diversity Hires
Post by: THE_Leopold on February 15, 2023, 10:46:15 AM
How Stunning and Brave!

Am I doing that right?
Title: Re: Hasbro FIRES Diversity Hires
Post by: honeydipperdavid on February 15, 2023, 11:41:03 AM
I just like seeing the DNDBeyond Forums going off about how its racist of Wotc shutting down the Brazilian HQ.  Anything that causes harm to WotC image with the wokesters I'm all for.  I would love to see D&D burned down to the ground from a profitability perspective and force Hasbro to sell the brand.  Just about any other company could put out better content than Hasbro/WotC.  The staff for D&D is cut to the bone and they hire diversity commissars to police speech meaning at best D&D can put out one crap book a quarter of questionable quality and use.
Title: Re: Hasbro FIRES Diversity Hires
Post by: ~ on February 15, 2023, 11:55:19 AM
Activision/Blizzard can get in that line too

I mean, this is one thing...

https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/stop-banning-people-for-using-a-bad-word-in-solo-shuffle/428818/99?page=5 (https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/stop-banning-people-for-using-a-bad-word-in-solo-shuffle/428818/99?page=5)

But also OW2 seemed to have fun yesterday...
Title: Re: Hasbro FIRES Diversity Hires
Post by: ZeroZero on February 15, 2023, 01:29:41 PM
Oh, no! Anyway...
Title: Re: Hasbro FIRES Diversity Hires
Post by: Venka on February 15, 2023, 02:00:15 PM
Quote from: honeydipperdavid on February 15, 2023, 11:41:03 AM
I just like seeing the DNDBeyond Forums going off about how its racist of Wotc shutting down the Brazilian HQ.  Anything that causes harm to WotC image with the wokesters I'm all for. 

While I enjoy the irony of seeing yet one more thing that some social justice warriors say turn out to just be raw hypocrisy, I don't think that WotC or Hasbro actually cares if their woke forumites actually believe their crap.  They managed to see through their multiple lies on the OGL, but somehow never spent too much time talking about the fact that WotC kept coming right back to a "morality clause" and citing that as casus belli against the entire gaming community (there were some people on the left who DID call this out, but it was definitely an opinion that would get you mass downvoted on reddit).  You would think that them feebly attempting to raise this banner repeatedly would make everyone in that camp step back and notice that Hasbro is transparently using their social cause to rally support for their abusive economic tricks, but also no.

Basically, I think Hasbro (and many companies) do things that are woke because their investors, or even their entire upper management, believes that either one of their main purposes of their company, or even their entire purpose, is to push a set of ideologies that have been marketed as The Good-Guy Thing.  Profit, market share- these are either co-limelight sharers, or even strictly secondary.  Simultaneously, they also try to get as much marketing out of their social positions as they can, pushing it hard in areas where they believe it will get good responses, and minimizing it in areas where they do not believe so.  RPG Pundit's video on Radiant Citadel mentions the disparity in marketing- anywhere normal people will see it, the setting's dragons and combat are emphasized in the marketing, but crawl around in the woke-o-sphere and the main selling point there is "It's the most ethical product because no white people profited from it directly!  Or rather we'll imply that as a selling point, because it isn't true, but we want you to think it is!".  I think that's the idea- push an ideology, profit from it where you can, minimize mentioning it where it won't be profitable, and never ever stop pushing that ideology.
Title: Re: Hasbro FIRES Diversity Hires
Post by: honeydipperdavid on February 15, 2023, 02:15:09 PM
Quote from: Venka on February 15, 2023, 02:00:15 PM
Quote from: honeydipperdavid on February 15, 2023, 11:41:03 AM
I just like seeing the DNDBeyond Forums going off about how its racist of Wotc shutting down the Brazilian HQ.  Anything that causes harm to WotC image with the wokesters I'm all for. 

While I enjoy the irony of seeing yet one more thing that some social justice warriors say turn out to just be raw hypocrisy, I don't think that WotC or Hasbro actually cares if their woke forumites actually believe their crap.  They managed to see through their multiple lies on the OGL, but somehow never spent too much time talking about the fact that WotC kept coming right back to a "morality clause" and citing that as casus belli against the entire gaming community (there were some people on the left who DID call this out, but it was definitely an opinion that would get you mass downvoted on reddit).  You would think that them feebly attempting to raise this banner repeatedly would make everyone in that camp step back and notice that Hasbro is transparently using their social cause to rally support for their abusive economic tricks, but also no.

Basically, I think Hasbro (and many companies) do things that are woke because their investors, or even their entire upper management, believes that either one of their main purposes of their company, or even their entire purpose, is to push a set of ideologies that have been marketed as The Good-Guy Thing.  Profit, market share- these are either co-limelight sharers, or even strictly secondary.  Simultaneously, they also try to get as much marketing out of their social positions as they can, pushing it hard in areas where they believe it will get good responses, and minimizing it in areas where they do not believe so.  RPG Pundit's video on Radiant Citadel mentions the disparity in marketing- anywhere normal people will see it, the setting's dragons and combat are emphasized in the marketing, but crawl around in the woke-o-sphere and the main selling point there is "It's the most ethical product because no white people profited from it directly!  Or rather we'll imply that as a selling point, because it isn't true, but we want you to think it is!".  I think that's the idea- push an ideology, profit from it where you can, minimize mentioning it where it won't be profitable, and never ever stop pushing that ideology.

Keep besmirching the fuck out of WotC and keep turning people away from the company.  WotC has been downgraded a few time snow and their profits continue to sink.  The left think that if they can just hurt WotC's bottom line more they will become good communist agents, meanwhile it will just make D&D unprofitable and it will be sold for pennies on the dollar to Goodman, Kobold, Frog God etc.  And the leftards will have to start all over again, while the new company realizes why it failed and will build a moat to keep the nutters away.

Leftard firms won't be able to string together $100M loan to buy D&D while other firms will be.  If you compare Kobold, Goodman, Troll Lord and Frog God for instance, the level of wokeness there is more inline with normal societal values than what D&D is offering now.  I mean my God, woke Goodman actually has women in chainmail bikinis', Oh gawd, Chainmail Bikini's you say!  I'd rather have Goodman rather than WotC controlling D&D now.
Title: Re: Hasbro FIRES Diversity Hires
Post by: Wtrmute on February 15, 2023, 02:33:52 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit on February 15, 2023, 06:31:42 AM
Hasbro still hasn't fired Kyle Brink, but they have just fired an entire continent of (presumably 'latinx') employees.

Pundit, you've been told about the Elephant and Macaw Banner by several people, now, but the fact is that even way back in the '90s, the first Brazilian RPG was a fantasy heartbreaker called Tagmar which was bog-standard AD&D style fantasy but used an action resolution table probably cribbed from Marvel Super Heroes. The second Brazilian RPG (by the same company, GSA Editorial) was a Colonial-themed RPG called o Desafio dos Bandeirantes, which was essentially adventuring in Colonial Brazil with magic and creatures from folklore (not the least of which was the common werewolf, which for some reason has a lot of legends about it in the interior or Brazil).

Now, Desafio was fairly popular, but not necessarily because of Nationalist themes, but because the setting was practically a perfect game to do a hexcrawl (even though the repopularisation of hexcrawls was still twenty years into the future at that point). A swords-and-muskets game about exploring the jungle looking for fabled cities of gold is a very good premise for an open table, practically as good as pushing back Chaos at Blackmoor. The national folklore themes were almost an aside, looking back on it.

Unfortunately, in around '96 or '97 there was a spike in the international price of paper and GSA Editorial went bankrupt; but maybe if it hadn't we might see some cross-polination of this Bandeirante/Conquistador themed settings and the OSR. And then we'd have RPG Pundit's Swords and Cities of Gold Companion for Old-School Colonial Play?

Well, it's not role-playing drinking mate, but it comes close...  ;)
Title: Re: Hasbro FIRES Diversity Hires
Post by: Venka on February 15, 2023, 02:52:59 PM
Quote from: honeydipperdavid on February 15, 2023, 02:15:09 PM
Keep besmirching the fuck out of WotC and keep turning people away from the company.  WotC has been downgraded a few time snow and their profits continue to sink.  The left think that if they can just hurt WotC's bottom line more they will become good communist agents, meanwhile it will just make D&D unprofitable and it will be sold for pennies on the dollar to Goodman, Kobold, Frog God etc.  And the leftards will have to start all over again, while the new company realizes why it failed and will build a moat to keep the nutters away.

I don't share your optimism, but I'd absolutely love to see it go down like this.  Keep in mind, this relies on the most extreme voices steering that ship, which is definitely a possibility.
Title: Re: Hasbro FIRES Diversity Hires
Post by: honeydipperdavid on February 15, 2023, 03:32:53 PM
Quote from: Venka on February 15, 2023, 02:52:59 PM
Quote from: honeydipperdavid on February 15, 2023, 02:15:09 PM
Keep besmirching the fuck out of WotC and keep turning people away from the company.  WotC has been downgraded a few time snow and their profits continue to sink.  The left think that if they can just hurt WotC's bottom line more they will become good communist agents, meanwhile it will just make D&D unprofitable and it will be sold for pennies on the dollar to Goodman, Kobold, Frog God etc.  And the leftards will have to start all over again, while the new company realizes why it failed and will build a moat to keep the nutters away.

I don't share your optimism, but I'd absolutely love to see it go down like this.  Keep in mind, this relies on the most extreme voices steering that ship, which is definitely a possibility.

I'm all for casting dispersions on WotC's intentions whenever and whereever.  Drive WotC to continue to be more and more woke.  Drive WotC to continue to offend and chase away paying customers as WotC goes into terminal woke.  BofA is on its second downgrade of WotC over overmonetization.  Every D&D Book WotC puts out, sells less and less as more people can't stand the smell of feces coming from the pages.  WotC had to apologize over a picture of a flying squirrel monkey because according to leftards all monkeys are black people now.  You can use that attack in stating something is wrong with WotC and you don't think like that and can't support buying their product and turn off a lot of people from buying their content.  IF someone objects, then state they must think like Yu Huiping, because that is what his art portrays and he's a horrible person, you aren't a horrible person you are a good person or at least want to be good right? 

WotC decided to chase wokebucks due to the 2020 riots, that is when corporate got scared of the fascists and did what they were told.  Well lets make WotC commit suicide and follow the leftards rules.  If it would take one person a week to write 20 pages, then lets make it require 5 people a week to do 20 pages with sensitivity writers and political commisars and additional diversity hires.  Just bitch non-stop on social media with sock puppets.  When you can get streaming sites to cover D&D's decline into woke nonsense.  If you go to a local hobby shop, casually mention if they think they'll see a decline in D&D sales with D&D now bundling the book and D&D beyond bundle.  Get the hobby shop owners to turn on D&D because D&D is eating their lunch.  The left got WotC to turn on its customer base, ok what do you think will happen to WotC when their actual customers turn on them?
Title: Re: Hasbro FIRES Diversity Hires
Post by: zer0th on February 15, 2023, 04:15:35 PM
Quote from: Wtrmute on February 15, 2023, 02:33:52 PM
[...] adventuring in Colonial Brazil with magic and creatures from folklore [...]

Dragão Brasil (Brazilian RPG magazine, totally not-Dragon magazine :wink:) also used to have a thing or two about Brazilian folklore transported to RPG. At least, before they went all-in with the weaboo stuff, including Defensores de Tóquio (the game the Pundit mentions being about mechas, I believe) and even Tormenta: the Brazilian-version of the anime-version of D&D-style fantasy.
Title: Re: Hasbro FIRES Diversity Hires
Post by: Mistwell on February 15, 2023, 04:48:53 PM
Kyle Brink was specifically complaining about diversity among the D&D designer group, a group of 7 total people in the U.S. with that job.

This is 1) in the Magic the Gathering group, 2) in Latin America, and 3) not in that small discreet group he was complaining about.

But you go on with your disingenuous click-baity self Pundit. Par for the course. And yet somehow, your videos still don't get a meaningful number of clicks while guys like Tenkar, with the same kind of audience, do. I wonder why? Could it be Tenkar isn't constantly disingenuous and click-baity and, let's face it, boring as fuck with an image of your cat or the same small set of friggen books rather than a human being talking and engaging with their audience? I mean dang dude, video is for VIDEO. Do a podcast if you don't like the camera.
Title: Re: Hasbro FIRES Diversity Hires
Post by: ZeroZero on February 15, 2023, 04:55:40 PM
Quote from: honeydipperdavid on February 15, 2023, 03:32:53 PM




WotC decided to chase wokebucks due to the 2020 riots, that is when corporate got scared of the fascists and did what they were told.  Well lets make WotC commit suicide and follow the leftards rules.  If it would take one person a week to write 20 pages, then lets make it require 5 people a week to do 20 pages with sensitivity writers and political commisars and additional diversity hires.  Just bitch non-stop on social media with sock puppets.  When you can get streaming sites to cover D&D's decline into woke nonsense.  If you go to a local hobby shop, casually mention if they think they'll see a decline in D&D sales with D&D now bundling the book and D&D beyond bundle.  Get the hobby shop owners to turn on D&D because D&D is eating their lunch.  The left got WotC to turn on its customer base, ok what do you think will happen to WotC when their actual customers turn on them?

Truth be told, WotC has been chasing wokebucks from the beginning. Take a look at a letter someone (one of the members here? ;)) sent Dragon Magazine in feb 2001:

(https://i.imgur.com/JSEgLvE.png)

A couple months later another reader sent a response letter, angrily saying WotC isn't shoving a political agenda down the throats of the gamers...




Quote from: zer0th on February 15, 2023, 04:15:35 PM
Dragão Brasil (Brazilian RPG magazine, totally not-Dragon magazine :wink:) also used to have a thing or two about Brazilian folklore transported to RPG. At least, before they went all-in with the weaboo stuff, including Defensores de Tóquio (the game the Pundit mentions being about mechas, I believe) and even Tormenta: the Brazilian-version of the anime-version of D&D-style fantasy.

Tormenta had a LOT of derivative stuff, but they had a couple of nice ideas here and there. Too bad Trevisan went full woketard.

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Title: Re: Hasbro FIRES Diversity Hires
Post by: ~ on February 15, 2023, 05:04:22 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on February 15, 2023, 04:48:53 PM
Kyle Brink was specifically complaining about diversity among the D&D designer group, a group of 7 total people in the U.S. with that job.

This is 1) in the Magic the Gathering group, 2) in Latin America, and 3) not in that small discreet group he was complaining about.

But you go on with your disingenuous click-baity self Pundit. Par for the course. And yet somehow, your videos still don't get a meaningful number of clicks while guys like Tenkar, with the same kind of audience, do. I wonder why? Could it be Tenkar isn't constantly disingenuous and click-baity and, let's face it, boring as fuck with an image of your cat or the same small set of friggen books rather than a human being talking and engaging with their audience? I mean dang dude, video is for VIDEO. Do a podcast if you don't like the camera.

Twitter bots would beg to differ.
Title: Re: Hasbro FIRES Diversity Hires
Post by: S'mon on February 15, 2023, 05:27:52 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on February 15, 2023, 04:48:53 PM
Kyle Brink was specifically complaining about diversity among the D&D designer group, a group of 7 total people in the U.S. with that job.

The interviewers were asking about diversity among senior WoTC personnel, wanting more non-whites in senior positions. Brink segued that into saying white guys like him were leaving the workforce, D&D players were no longer white neckbeards in the basement, & whites couldn't leave 'the hobby' fast enough for him. AFAICT neither he nor they said anything about D&D designers specfically.
Title: Re: Hasbro FIRES Diversity Hires
Post by: jhkim on February 15, 2023, 06:09:01 PM
Quote from: S'mon on February 15, 2023, 05:27:52 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on February 15, 2023, 04:48:53 PM
Kyle Brink was specifically complaining about diversity among the D&D designer group, a group of 7 total people in the U.S. with that job.

The interviewers were asking about diversity among senior WoTC personnel, wanting more non-whites in senior positions. Brink segued that into saying white guys like him were leaving the workforce, D&D players were no longer white neckbeards in the basement, & whites couldn't leave 'the hobby' fast enough for him. AFAICT neither he nor they said anything about D&D designers specfically.

I reposted the transcript again on the earlier thread about Pundit's video about the interview.

https://www.therpgsite.com/pen-paper-roleplaying-games-rpgs-discussion/dd-boss-says-white-guys-need-to-leave-dd/msg1244355/#msg1244355

S'mon, the specific statement is "guys like me can't leave soon enough for this hobby". It seems you misheard that as "leave the hobby" - which is what you quote, but he says "leave for this hobby".

All of his previous statements and following statements are about the 100% white male WotC management. So I read that as "It would be better for this hobby if guys like me would leave the workforce."

According to him, the player base is already diverse, and the problem is that the management doesn't reflect the player base.

I don't believe him, but I think that is what he was trying to claim.
Title: Re: Hasbro FIRES Diversity Hires
Post by: Opaopajr on February 15, 2023, 07:26:46 PM
Quote from: ZeroZero on February 15, 2023, 01:29:41 PM
Oh, no! Anyway...

Indeed!  :) It saves so much energy this way. No tables to flip and then upright over and over again.

WotC: I did a thing!
People:  ::)
WotC: Aren't you going to give me 'engagement'?
People:  ::)
WOtC: But my Parrot Analytics are going to go down!  :-[
People:  ::)
WotC: If people don't talk about me, do I even exist? Hold me I'm scared!
People:  ::)
Title: Re: Hasbro FIRES Diversity Hires
Post by: GeekyBugle on February 15, 2023, 08:16:54 PM
Quote from: jhkim on February 15, 2023, 06:09:01 PM
Quote from: S'mon on February 15, 2023, 05:27:52 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on February 15, 2023, 04:48:53 PM
Kyle Brink was specifically complaining about diversity among the D&D designer group, a group of 7 total people in the U.S. with that job.

The interviewers were asking about diversity among senior WoTC personnel, wanting more non-whites in senior positions. Brink segued that into saying white guys like him were leaving the workforce, D&D players were no longer white neckbeards in the basement, & whites couldn't leave 'the hobby' fast enough for him. AFAICT neither he nor they said anything about D&D designers specfically.

I reposted the transcript again on the earlier thread about Pundit's video about the interview.

https://www.therpgsite.com/pen-paper-roleplaying-games-rpgs-discussion/dd-boss-says-white-guys-need-to-leave-dd/msg1244355/#msg1244355

S'mon, the specific statement is "guys like me can't leave soon enough for this hobby". It seems you misheard that as "leave the hobby" - which is what you quote, but he says "leave for this hobby".

All of his previous statements and following statements are about the 100% white male WotC management. So I read that as "It would be better for this hobby if guys like me would leave the workforce."

According to him, the player base is already diverse, and the problem is that the management doesn't reflect the player base.

I don't believe him, but I think that is what he was trying to claim.

"It would be better for this hobby if (insert any group except white straight men) would leave the workforce"

Do you see the problem now? If you don't then there's no hope for you.
Title: Re: Hasbro FIRES Diversity Hires
Post by: TheGwyrigons on February 15, 2023, 10:04:07 PM
Quote from: honeydipperdavid on February 15, 2023, 11:41:03 AM
I just like seeing the DNDBeyond Forums going off about how its racist of Wotc shutting down the Brazilian HQ.  Anything that causes harm to WotC image with the wokesters I'm all for.  I would love to see D&D burned down to the ground from a profitability perspective and force Hasbro to sell the brand.  Just about any other company could put out better content than Hasbro/WotC.  The staff for D&D is cut to the bone and they hire diversity commissars to police speech meaning at best D&D can put out one crap book a quarter of questionable quality and use.

The only thread on DDB about this is full of resident woke clowns defending WotC and making excuse after excuse for the closure of their presence in Brazil. The only dissenting voices are a couple of Brazilians talking about how it will mean less local support for the hobby and more expensive imported books.

By all means laugh at idiots who find racism in everything, but there is no need to make things up.

Those forums might be crawling with leftist twits but they are leftist twits so in the thrall of WotC they defended them throughout the whole OGL debacle and just double down on defending them no matter how poor their actions.
Title: Re: Hasbro FIRES Diversity Hires
Post by: jhkim on February 16, 2023, 12:32:24 AM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on February 15, 2023, 08:16:54 PM
Quote from: jhkim on February 15, 2023, 06:09:01 PM
I reposted the transcript again on the earlier thread about Pundit's video about the interview.

https://www.therpgsite.com/pen-paper-roleplaying-games-rpgs-discussion/dd-boss-says-white-guys-need-to-leave-dd/msg1244355/#msg1244355

S'mon, the specific statement is "guys like me can't leave soon enough for this hobby". It seems you misheard that as "leave the hobby" - which is what you quote, but he says "leave for this hobby".

All of his previous statements and following statements are about the 100% white male WotC management. So I read that as "It would be better for this hobby if guys like me would leave the workforce."

"It would be better for this hobby if (insert any group except white straight men) would leave the workforce"

Do you see the problem now? If you don't then there's no hope for you.

GeekyBugle, I've claimed always claimed this as a problem. My point was that S'mon claims Brink saying that white male players should be leaving the hobby, as opposed to white male managers leaving the WotC workforce.

Both of these are problems, but they are different problems.

I'm opposed to WotC, but I think it's important to be accurate about what they are doing that's wrong.
Title: Re: Hasbro FIRES Diversity Hires
Post by: Spinachcat on February 16, 2023, 12:52:57 AM
Everybody knows that if you want less Whites in the hobby, the first thing you do is kick out the Brazilians.

Science!
Title: Re: Hasbro FIRES Diversity Hires
Post by: GeekyBugle on February 16, 2023, 02:51:41 AM
Quote from: jhkim on February 16, 2023, 12:32:24 AM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on February 15, 2023, 08:16:54 PM
Quote from: jhkim on February 15, 2023, 06:09:01 PM
I reposted the transcript again on the earlier thread about Pundit's video about the interview.

https://www.therpgsite.com/pen-paper-roleplaying-games-rpgs-discussion/dd-boss-says-white-guys-need-to-leave-dd/msg1244355/#msg1244355

S'mon, the specific statement is "guys like me can't leave soon enough for this hobby". It seems you misheard that as "leave the hobby" - which is what you quote, but he says "leave for this hobby".

All of his previous statements and following statements are about the 100% white male WotC management. So I read that as "It would be better for this hobby if guys like me would leave the workforce."

"It would be better for this hobby if (insert any group except white straight men) would leave the workforce"

Do you see the problem now? If you don't then there's no hope for you.

GeekyBugle, I've claimed always claimed this as a problem. My point was that S'mon claims Brink saying that white male players should be leaving the hobby, as opposed to white male managers leaving the WotC workforce.

Both of these are problems, but they are different problems.

I'm opposed to WotC, but I think it's important to be accurate about what they are doing that's wrong.

WotC is discriminating against white straight men, I say that's racist AND sexist. So, a corporation that discriminates against whites MIGHT still want the money of the white customer, doesn't mean the corporation doesn't hate them, just that they love the green more.

If they were discriminating against say Asians, in hiring, would you say that's a sign they hate you too?
Title: Re: Hasbro FIRES Diversity Hires
Post by: zer0th on February 16, 2023, 05:21:55 AM
Quote from: Spinachcat on February 16, 2023, 12:52:57 AM
Everybody knows that if you want less Whites in the hobby, the first thing you do is kick out the Brazilians.

Science!

Would you be surprised to know that most rpg players in Brazil are white males? (Well, white as in "of European descent"; not /pol/ white.) Even in a country with a bit over 50% of the population being non-white like Brazil, rpg started as a white male middle-class teenager thing, and only slowly people from other social groups joined.
Title: Re: Hasbro FIRES Diversity Hires
Post by: jeff37923 on February 16, 2023, 06:20:09 AM
Quote from: Mistwell on February 15, 2023, 04:48:53 PM

But you go on with your disingenuous click-baity self Mistwell.

Fixed it for you.
Title: Re: Hasbro FIRES Diversity Hires
Post by: jeff37923 on February 16, 2023, 06:27:51 AM
I can't help the schadenfreude of watching a company that fucked up a great game now whining because they are busy alienating their largest customer demographic, the straight white male.
Title: Re: Hasbro FIRES Diversity Hires
Post by: RPGPundit on February 16, 2023, 07:24:23 AM
Quote from: zer0th on February 15, 2023, 04:15:35 PM
Quote from: Wtrmute on February 15, 2023, 02:33:52 PM
[...] adventuring in Colonial Brazil with magic and creatures from folklore [...]

Dragão Brasil (Brazilian RPG magazine, totally not-Dragon magazine :wink:) also used to have a thing or two about Brazilian folklore transported to RPG. At least, before they went all-in with the weaboo stuff, including Defensores de Tóquio (the game the Pundit mentions being about mechas, I believe) and even Tormenta: the Brazilian-version of the anime-version of D&D-style fantasy.

Which they did because those two were HUGELY more popular than RPGs about Brazil.
Title: Re: Hasbro FIRES Diversity Hires
Post by: RPGPundit on February 16, 2023, 07:32:30 AM
Quote from: Mistwell on February 15, 2023, 04:48:53 PM
Kyle Brink was specifically complaining about diversity among the D&D designer group, a group of 7 total people in the U.S. with that job.

This is 1) in the Magic the Gathering group, 2) in Latin America, and 3) not in that small discreet group he was complaining about.

But you go on with your disingenuous click-baity self Pundit. Par for the course. And yet somehow, your videos still don't get a meaningful number of clicks while guys like Tenkar, with the same kind of audience, do. I wonder why? Could it be Tenkar isn't constantly disingenuous and click-baity and, let's face it, boring as fuck with an image of your cat or the same small set of friggen books rather than a human being talking and engaging with their audience? I mean dang dude, video is for VIDEO. Do a podcast if you don't like the camera.

Let's do a simple comparative analysis, shall we?
Tenkar's video on this topic (the firing of the Brazilian WotC employees) currently has 1200 views. Mine currently has 5000 views.
In terms of community engagement; in those two videos, Tenkar has 26 comments, and 68 likes. I have 189 comments, and 510 likes.

Tenkar's most viewed video so far this year has 12578 views. My most viewed video so far this year has 26394 views.
His least viewed video so far this year (not counting livestreams or shorts) has 93 views. My least viewed video this year (not counting livestreams or shorts) has 955 views.
He has 2630 subs. I have 6905 subs.

In every single respect, and no disrespect intended to Tenkar, in terms of videos I consistently kick Tenkar's ass. Which means you're talking out of yours.


Also, if you'd bothered to watch my video, you'd know that I specified in the video exactly who this group of fired employees were.
Title: Re: Hasbro FIRES Diversity Hires
Post by: RPGPundit on February 16, 2023, 07:34:11 AM
Quote from: jhkim on February 15, 2023, 06:09:01 PM
Quote from: S'mon on February 15, 2023, 05:27:52 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on February 15, 2023, 04:48:53 PM
Kyle Brink was specifically complaining about diversity among the D&D designer group, a group of 7 total people in the U.S. with that job.

The interviewers were asking about diversity among senior WoTC personnel, wanting more non-whites in senior positions. Brink segued that into saying white guys like him were leaving the workforce, D&D players were no longer white neckbeards in the basement, & whites couldn't leave 'the hobby' fast enough for him. AFAICT neither he nor they said anything about D&D designers specfically.

I reposted the transcript again on the earlier thread about Pundit's video about the interview.

https://www.therpgsite.com/pen-paper-roleplaying-games-rpgs-discussion/dd-boss-says-white-guys-need-to-leave-dd/msg1244355/#msg1244355

S'mon, the specific statement is "guys like me can't leave soon enough for this hobby". It seems you misheard that as "leave the hobby" - which is what you quote, but he says "leave for this hobby".

All of his previous statements and following statements are about the 100% white male WotC management. So I read that as "It would be better for this hobby if guys like me would leave the workforce."

According to him, the player base is already diverse, and the problem is that the management doesn't reflect the player base.

I don't believe him, but I think that is what he was trying to claim.

I think it's hilarious how all of Brink's defenders use arguments that makes Brink look horrible.
Title: Re: Hasbro FIRES Diversity Hires
Post by: Grognard GM on February 16, 2023, 10:56:50 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit on February 16, 2023, 07:34:11 AMI think it's hilarious how all of Brink's defenders use arguments that makes Brink look horrible.

Well they're desperately trying to spin it, because it's what they do, but as much as one tries to spin a bucket of shit, it remains a bucket of shit.
Title: Re: Hasbro FIRES Diversity Hires
Post by: Slipshot762 on February 18, 2023, 12:54:44 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit on February 16, 2023, 07:32:30 AM
Quote from: Mistwell on February 15, 2023, 04:48:53 PM
Kyle Brink was specifically complaining about diversity among the D&D designer group, a group of 7 total people in the U.S. with that job.

This is 1) in the Magic the Gathering group, 2) in Latin America, and 3) not in that small discreet group he was complaining about.

But you go on with your disingenuous click-baity self Pundit. Par for the course. And yet somehow, your videos still don't get a meaningful number of clicks while guys like Tenkar, with the same kind of audience, do. I wonder why? Could it be Tenkar isn't constantly disingenuous and click-baity and, let's face it, boring as fuck with an image of your cat or the same small set of friggen books rather than a human being talking and engaging with their audience? I mean dang dude, video is for VIDEO. Do a podcast if you don't like the camera.

Let's do a simple comparative analysis, shall we?
Tenkar's video on this topic (the firing of the Brazilian WotC employees) currently has 1200 views. Mine currently has 5000 views.
In terms of community engagement; in those two videos, Tenkar has 26 comments, and 68 likes. I have 189 comments, and 510 likes.

Tenkar's most viewed video so far this year has 12578 views. My most viewed video so far this year has 26394 views.
His least viewed video so far this year (not counting livestreams or shorts) has 93 views. My least viewed video this year (not counting livestreams or shorts) has 955 views.
He has 2630 subs. I have 6905 subs.

In every single respect, and no disrespect intended to Tenkar, in terms of videos I consistently kick Tenkar's ass. Which means you're talking out of yours.


Also, if you'd bothered to watch my video, you'd know that I specified in the video exactly who this group of fired employees were.

tenkar doesnt have a big fat pussy to put on camera and pull the viewer in though, this is like comparing the british navy to the honduran navy due to a lack of chungus/meatball. So in the name of diversity equitity and gay bunny rabbits having trans bunny rabbit babies you should give half your likes to poor no pussy havin tenkar.

8)
Title: Re: Hasbro FIRES Diversity Hires
Post by: RPGPundit on February 21, 2023, 07:39:31 AM
Cat communism, that's a new one.