Quote from: ICFTI;460940i was referring to the "pokemount" comment. i heard that term applied to 3rd edition paladins back in the year 2000. constantly.

Oh, sorry.  I'm oblivious to 3e discussion from back then, since I didn't start posting on RPG forums till 09.

Quote from: misterguignol;460941It was an April Fools thing, if that helps your search.  And it looked totally playable.

Hahaha.  Awesome.  I've been wanting to run a humorous game for a while now, but haven't had the chance.

Quote from: Cole;460942I didn't think the summonable mount even existed until 3.5

it might have been 2003, then. eh, the point remains the same - it is an old criticism.

Quote from: thedungeondelver;460904It's like...remember back in the 90s when "pre-made collectible" comics were such a huge rage?  There'd be books from Dark Horse and Image and so on with autographs already on them, or foil covers, or they'd come straight from Diamond already in a poly bag with a holograph trading card, lapel button and so on?  Remember people buying those up like crazy thinking they'd be millionaires by now based on those alone?  Now most of that shit (and I mean that in the near literal root-word sense: shit - cast off, cut away, needless) is valueless, and you can find it in comic shops and used bookstores for about cover price.

Similar story with the X-Men and other related spinoff comic series during the 1980's.  I remember back in the 1980's when back issues of the Uncanny X-Men from the mid-late 1970's were going for sky high prices.  (Mainly the Uncanny X-Men #94 -> #150).

At the time during the mid/late-1980's, I remember several acquaintances who would buy 2 or 3 copies of each issue of the Uncanny X-Men and other related spinoffs like the New Mutants, X-Factor, etc ...  They were betting that these issues would become very valuable many years later.  They all thought they were going to be rich!  :rolleyes:

20-25 years later, it turns out most of these mid/late-1980's issues of the Uncanny X-Men, the New Mutants, X-Factor, etc ... are hardly worth more than the cover price (even in pristine mint condition).

Quote from: Peregrin;460544True, but I still feel like looking for D&D on the quarterly report is like looking for your favorite dive on a list of 4-star restaurants.

Restaurants only go up to 3 stars. Looking at a list of four star restaurants is always looking at an empty set. The Hasbro web page, on the other hand, has actual products on it.

-Frank

Quote from: FrankTrollman;460967Restaurants only go up to 3 stars. Looking at a list of four star restaurants is always looking at an empty set. The Hasbro web page, on the other hand, has actual products on it.

-Frank

That depends entirely on the reviewer.  Michelin stars go up to only 3 (And even 1-star is hard to get, it's not a rating, it's a medal system, essentially), this is true, but many newspapers and other guides use 4, and most online review sites use 5.

I went to General Electric's homepage, did a search for 30 Rock, and could not find a program schedule.

Quote from: Esgaldil;460998I went to General Electric's homepage, did a search for 30 Rock, and could not find a program schedule.

Probably because they no longer own NBC.

They sold that network off to ComCast.


- Ed C.

Quote from: ggroy;460947At the time during the mid/late-1980's, I remember several acquaintances who would buy 2 or 3 copies of each issue of the Uncanny X-Men and other related spinoffs like the New Mutants, X-Factor, etc ...  They were betting that these issues would become very valuable many years later.  They all thought they were going to be rich!  :rolleyes:

I have to interject here that while your derisive commentary does hit the mark, it is only because the collectors were looking at the comics as hoarders do and not as a commodity. If they had watched the market and figured out when to sell the comics they might have made a profit from their investment.

Anecdotal evidence, but I managed to pay my rent one month by selling my Cloak & Dagger, Punisher, and Longshot limited series comics in the late 80's.

Likewise when the announcement that D&D 4E was coming out, a tremendous amount of related gaming books were dumped on the market cheaply and I bought them from the local used book stores at low prices and then sold them on ebay and Amazon for some profit. I still do this, go to McKay's and buy something for a low price and then sell it for a profit. It will not make me rich, but it makes the hobby self-supporting for me.

Quote from: jeff37923;461014it is only because the collectors were looking at the comics as hoarders do and not as a commodity.

These acquaintances were definitely hoarders and packrats.

They were the types that would hang on to all kinds of stuff, thinking it would be valuable one day.

Quote from: Koltar;460999Probably because they no longer own NBC.

They sold that network off to ComCast.


- Ed C.

Not to mention, GE doesn't make and market television programming. On the other hand, Hasbro does make and market games. I can find Funglish on their site. Racko too. A puzzle of the United States, and Girl Talk Sparkle Spots. I mean wtf? They have D&D on their site, just not the current line of D&D for some inexplicable reason. Really? Are ya'all really trying to say that if you own or lead a company that makes games and owns a stable of other companies that make games, and you went to the effort of making and maintaining a website for the purposes of marketing your company's, and your stable of companies' games, yet you would fail to offer the 2 flagship product lines for one of those companies? What could possibly be a good reason for the omission? The images are already created for use on the WotC website. What could possibly be a good reason for not adding, at the very least, the main products for WotC,s lines with links to the rest of the WotC's site? It's lazy and stupid. If WotC is such small fish that even adding a paragraph sized blurb on your site is just too much effort, then why bother even continuing to own the company? It's missed opportunity, and IMO missing opportunities by choice is not very good business.

Hey, why don't you call up Hasbro and ask them, or maybe ask someone who knows something about business, or maybe their website guy? Just a suggestion, assuming of course you really want an informed answer.

Quote from: JDCorley;461025Hey, why don't you call up Hasbro and ask them, or maybe ask someone who knows something about business, or maybe their website guy? Just a suggestion, assuming of course you really want an informed answer.

What's the point of this? Is my expression of my opinion bothering you?

Quote from: Sigmund;461028What's the point of this? Is my expression of my opinion bothering you?

I think he has just misunderstood the point of the thread. He's expecting intelligent information, whereas what this thread, like so many, is about is impotent whining.

Quote from: J Arcane;461031I think he has just misunderstood the point of the thread. He's expecting intelligent information, whereas what this thread, like so many, is about is impotent whining.

I think characterizing incredulity with impotent whining is also missing the point of the thread.

I think Hasbro, or at least their people in charge of web marketing, are fucking idiots. I'm even more surprised at the "Eh, whatever" reactions from people who at other times write passionate volumes of ranting and vitriol about the most meaningless of shit in the grand scheme of things. I'm allowed to have that opinion. As long as Pundit says so, I'm even allowed to express that opinion here. Not every expression of opinion is "impotent whining". Especially since none of us here are impotent. If this subject  were to truly bother anyone, they can certainly vote with their dollar.

Really, if it's not a subject that ya'all are interested in, there is no law that says you have to read or comment in the thread. Otherwise, your thread-crapping really is impotent whining.

QuoteI think Hasbro, or at least their people in charge of web marketing, are fucking idiots.

And under what justification can you make that conclusion in the absence of actual evidence to support it?

Hasbro is a multi-billion dollar company with interests in almost every facet of the toy industry.

D&D is a niche hobby for a handful of nerds.

It is just as possible that their numbers are beneath notice enough as to be irrelevant or go unnoticed by whatever office peon is responsible for putting together that website.

We also don't actually know if Wizards has any say in what goes on the website, or if they are even aware of it, or if they felt that supporting an entry in the larger corporate store was something they could back up with inventory.

You know absolutely nothing about the decision process that led to the situation described in the OP, but have soldiered on with a lot of baseless speculation and frothing ranting regardless.  

JD suggested perhaps replacing that baseless speculation with some actual fact-checking beyond what shows up in a Google search, which is a reasonable suggestion if what one is after is informed discussion, but we don't do that here.  An understandable mistake to make, but apparently a criminal one.