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Has it really been seven years since Far West was funded?

Started by thedungeondelver, June 11, 2018, 05:14:10 PM

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GhostNinja

#300
April 05, 2023, 01:18:55 PM
Quote from: PulpHerb on April 05, 2023, 01:16:43 PM
If nothing else, 12 years makes me feel a little less stupid about "Chronicles of Future Earth" which is only 6 years out.

I know there are other Kickstarters that is worse.  How Kevin Siembieda got away with the Robotech Tactics kickstarter issue and seems to have walked away unscathed is beyond me.
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GeekyBugle

#301
April 05, 2023, 01:30:19 PM
Quote from: GhostNinja on April 05, 2023, 01:18:55 PM
Quote from: PulpHerb on April 05, 2023, 01:16:43 PM
If nothing else, 12 years makes me feel a little less stupid about "Chronicles of Future Earth" which is only 6 years out.

I know there are other Kickstarters that is worse.  How Kevin Siembieda got away with the Robotech Tactics kickstarter issue and seems to have walked away unscathed is beyond me.

This is why you only back products that follow the Sine Nomine formula:

The game is complete, you get a PDF of it without art when you back it and then whatever perks included in the level you backed once the campaign closes and the art is in place.

Worst comes to pass you still got a complete and functional game, without art.

Now ask me how am I going to publish my games? Even better I might go the rippaverse way and not put it on ANY crowdfunding site but my own pre-order system.
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GhostNinja

#302
April 05, 2023, 01:34:30 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on April 05, 2023, 01:30:19 PM
This is why you only back products that follow the Sine Nomine formula:

The game is complete, you get a PDF of it without art when you back it and then whatever perks included in the level you backed once the campaign closes and the art is in place.

Worst comes to pass you still got a complete and functional game, without art.

Now ask me how am I going to publish my games? Even better I might go the rippaverse way and not put it on ANY crowdfunding site but my own pre-order system.

This makes sense.  Though after KS issues I just buy things once they are ready and I can trade my money for an actual product.
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PulpHerb

#303
April 05, 2023, 02:11:32 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on April 05, 2023, 01:30:19 PM
Quote from: GhostNinja on April 05, 2023, 01:18:55 PM
Quote from: PulpHerb on April 05, 2023, 01:16:43 PM
If nothing else, 12 years makes me feel a little less stupid about "Chronicles of Future Earth" which is only 6 years out.

I know there are other Kickstarters that is worse.  How Kevin Siembieda got away with the Robotech Tactics kickstarter issue and seems to have walked away unscathed is beyond me.

This is why you only back products that follow the Sine Nomine formula:

The game is complete, you get a PDF of it without art when you back it and then whatever perks included in the level you backed once the campaign closes and the art is in place.

Worst comes to pass you still got a complete and functional game, without art.

Now ask me how am I going to publish my games? Even better I might go the rippaverse way and not put it on ANY crowdfunding site but my own pre-order system.

That is generally the rule I follow...or a company with a track record who is probably doing something close.

CoFE was a flyer because I liked the original BRP version and she'd delivered on 2 prior KS.

Then her husband got cancer and died. I get the delay there.

But that was four years ago and she's remarried...and in January it was announced "she's writing again" but on a different game.

This is the first time I've been this angry about a late KS (and really only the second time I've been angry...that was about someone having to pay shipping out of pocket because his miscalculated and was slow getting out...I wish he'd just owned up and asked us for the $10 a year earlier than I got my book).

PulpHerb

#304
April 05, 2023, 02:12:32 PM
Quote from: GhostNinja on April 05, 2023, 01:18:55 PM
Quote from: PulpHerb on April 05, 2023, 01:16:43 PM
If nothing else, 12 years makes me feel a little less stupid about "Chronicles of Future Earth" which is only 6 years out.

I know there are other Kickstarters that is worse.  How Kevin Siembieda got away with the Robotech Tactics kickstarter issue and seems to have walked away unscathed is beyond me.

I wouldn't say he survived unscathed. I watched a lot of "Kevin is always right" fanboys turn on him. I suspect it hit his wallet just not directly from the KS>

GhostNinja

#305
April 05, 2023, 03:19:06 PM
Quote from: PulpHerb on April 05, 2023, 02:12:32 PM

I wouldn't say he survived unscathed. I watched a lot of "Kevin is always right" fanboys turn on him. I suspect it hit his wallet just not directly from the KS>

DO you think it caused any of the fanboys to stop buying their products?
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Malaky

#306
April 05, 2023, 04:53:29 PM
From what I have read, Kevin took the brunt of the Robotech KS. Harmony Gold turned on him and there were issues with the model maker. Those two got away unscathed from everything. He is still feeling the effects of it today. There were people talking about backing Titan Robotics and cancelling their pledge at the last minute.

PulpHerb

#307
April 06, 2023, 12:41:00 AM
Quote from: GhostNinja on April 05, 2023, 03:19:06 PM
Quote from: PulpHerb on April 05, 2023, 02:12:32 PM

I wouldn't say he survived unscathed. I watched a lot of "Kevin is always right" fanboys turn on him. I suspect it hit his wallet just not directly from the KS>

DO you think it caused any of the fanboys to stop buying their products?

Given Palladium had to downsize because they couldn't afford their old warehouse, in Detroit of all places, yes.

GhostNinja

#308
April 06, 2023, 09:10:00 AM
Quote from: metallica9998 on April 05, 2023, 04:53:29 PM
From what I have read, Kevin took the brunt of the Robotech KS. Harmony Gold turned on him and there were issues with the model maker. Those two got away unscathed from everything. He is still feeling the effects of it today. There were people talking about backing Titan Robotics and cancelling their pledge at the last minute.

I hadn't even heard of Titan Robotics.  Looked up the kickstarter and it still made $90,000.

It's good that Kevin didnt get away with it because he has gotten away with so much crap, including saying that someone taking his personal stuff (which sucks) could destroy his business just to gain sympathy. 
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GhostNinja

#309
April 06, 2023, 09:10:42 AM
Quote from: PulpHerb on April 06, 2023, 12:41:00 AM

Given Palladium had to downsize because they couldn't afford their old warehouse, in Detroit of all places, yes.

I hadn't heard of that and I cannot find any articles when googling about it.  Do you have a link to this announcement?
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PulpHerb

#310
April 12, 2023, 02:31:29 PM
Quote from: GhostNinja on April 06, 2023, 09:10:42 AM
Quote from: PulpHerb on April 06, 2023, 12:41:00 AM

Given Palladium had to downsize because they couldn't afford their old warehouse, in Detroit of all places, yes.

I hadn't heard of that and I cannot find any articles when googling about it.  Do you have a link to this announcement?

If memory serves, I heard him talk about it during his interview with Legion of Myth.

Another sign of financial hit is all the memorabilia he keeps selling. There are links in the most recent weekly update (and most of them).

GhostNinja

#311
April 12, 2023, 03:10:15 PM
Quote from: PulpHerb on April 12, 2023, 02:31:29 PM
If memory serves, I heard him talk about it during his interview with Legion of Myth.

Another sign of financial hit is all the memorabilia he keeps selling. There are links in the most recent weekly update (and most of them).

My google fu is failing and I cannot find it.

I will look through some of his interviews and see if I can find it.
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Almost_Useless

#313
April 12, 2023, 10:09:23 PM
You know, we did get what was allegedly the finished text a while back.  Do you think someone could strip it down to the OGL bits, BS some setting info, slap in some AI art, and have it to market before he does?

It won't be me.  I'm not a layout guy.  But I'll bet it could be done.

GhostNinja

#314
April 13, 2023, 09:11:46 AM
Quote from: Almost_Useless on April 12, 2023, 09:51:03 PM
They put stuff like this right on the Palladium website.

https://palladiumbooks.com/about-palladium-2/weekly-updates/1313-palladium-books-weekly-update-april-6-2023

Ok thank you for letting me know.  I will check it out.
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