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Has it really been seven years since Far West was funded?

Started by thedungeondelver, June 11, 2018, 05:14:10 PM

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thedungeondelver

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Mcbobbo sums it up nicely.

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GeekEclectic

Quote from: Orphan81;1057814Meanwhile, Cortex Prime was supposed to be physically shipped back in April, but doesn't even have PDF versions sent yet. Oh, but Patreon supporters get access to the latest builds and versions of it rather than yaknow, the Kickstarter backers who actually funded it.
Except that's not true at all.
Quote from: September 1So, I just uploaded a new version of chapters 1 to 4: Intro, Core, Characters, and Scenes. There's something new in all of these chapters, though the most that's new is in Scenes, which includes a lot of advice and guidance about scene framing and different sorts of scenes in Cortex Prime.

This is going out via BackerKit, so it should also be going to everyone who pre-ordered, even those who jumped in this week. You should have an email giving you the link to your digital downloads folder. If you don't get it, I'm told you should check your spam folders and double-check that the email you're using for BackerKit is correct.
The KS is being handled via BackerKit, so that's where you'll find the latest version of the files available to KS backers. The extras from the Patreon aren't even that much. Basically just some extra stuff you might like if you really want to playtest the thing.
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Quote from: GeekEclectic;1057857Except that's not true at all.

The KS is being handled via BackerKit, so that's where you'll find the latest version of the files available to KS backers. The extras from the Patreon aren't even that much. Basically just some extra stuff you might like if you really want to playtest the thing.

Oh shit, guess I was wrong! Well that's good! That's what I get for not checking my email!
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Yeah, I think no one is ever going to see any money back from GMS at this point.
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Quote from: Simon W;1058175Apparently GMS is sick again.

So are we, Simon, so are we.
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Quote from: Christopher Brady;1058179So are we, Simon, so are we.

Good point!

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Quote from: RPGPundit;1058165Yeah, I think no one is ever going to see any money back from GMS at this point.

I received a full refund after a pretty nasty back and forth, but still, I got it. So, there's that.
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At one point, Cubicle 7 was involved in this fiasco- can anyone shed some light on that?  I see a lot of folks are pissed GMS worked on Modiphius stuff, but can't find any good links for what happened with Cubicle 7?

Almost_Useless

It's been a while, but I think there was some deal with Cubicle 7 where they were going to help produce the physical copies.  Something I have no knowledge of happened and suddenly they were no longer involved.

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Quote from: Christopher Brady;1058179So are we, Simon, so are we.

Touche!
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Quote from: Spinachcat;1057830Agreed, but I suspect a judge would declare a reasonable date after the KS's failure to meet it's delivery date as that "reasonably alerts". I could see a judge saying that 3 years from the end of the KS would be the start date. AKA, if you didn't get your book after 7 years and you didn't do shit about it for 2 more years, its your problem.

I wonder about "I'll gladly pay your Tuesday" for actually restarting the clock. Does that have legal precedent? It's certainly better than a verbal contract since its direct communication with the backers via the KS platform.

But GMS is safe because he only owes each person small potatoes. They could go to small claims in his backyard, but that's expensive travel for most backers. Otherwise, its a class action which means hiring lawyers and paying court fees and wrangling backers. The Robotech Tactics Kickstarter has/had a Facebook group of backers trying to launch something against Palladium because of that debacle, but I doubt that will ever see the light of day because of legal costs.

He's in Kansas. Here is the Kansas law where an acknowledgement of a debt renews the statue of limitations. " In any case founded on contract, when any part of the principal or interest shall have been paid, or an acknowledgment of an existing liability, debt or claim, or any promise to pay the same, shall have been made, an action may be brought in such case within the period prescribed for the same, after such payment, acknowledgment or promise; but such acknowledgment or promise must be in writing, signed by the party to be charged thereby."

He's given some chapters from the book he owes in debt to the buyers. So I suspect that's "any part of the principal or interest have been paid". He also gave an "acknowledgment or promise must be in writing" however it's questionable if it is "signed by the party". He signs off with his name, and there is verifiable identity in his signing on, but is that a signature? Unclear but probably.

Chivalric

The easier out for the kickstarter is to go through their five step process of providing a reasonable alternative to the promised rewards.  Palladium used this process to totally cancel wave 2 and make people pay for shipping to get wave 1 substitutes.

Godfather Punk

I don't know if it's a sign or something but the Skarkman, for the first time in years, has changed his Twitter background from the Far West map to something else geeky.

Maybe he got sick of it too and he's moving on..

urbwar

So I get these memories notifications on facebook. One of the ones from this day going back to 2015 was a post I made about GMS. Back in 2002, someone started a thread where they took to task someone over an rpg whose writer had misrepresented themselves as an associate of Time Powers. He checked with Powers, and while he knew who the person was, didn't consider him an associate. Needless to say, GMS (who had a similar rpg) had to post in the thread, and claimed this other publisher was "unprofessional". How ironic given the years of unprofessional behavior on his part since then. Far West, the ICONS Team Up pre-order... I'm sure there's more (would Buckaroo Banzai count? Or that sci-fi property he never released?). So I had a good laugh about that, and had to share. Talk about being a fucking hypocrite :rolleyes: