Has it really been seven years since Far West was funded?

thedungeondelver · June 11, 2018, 05:14:10 PM

Seven years! Two presidential elections. In 2011 a Core2Duo machine and a GTX450 was still considered a decent gaming rig. In 2011, Wizards of the Coast had yet to announce the release of the special edition 1e AD&D reprints. In 2011, the Star Wars franchise reboot hadn't begun, and Lucas hadn't sold the company to Disney! 2011 was closer to a decade ago than not. And that f'in game still isn't out yet?! People gave J.Mal a lot of shit (and rightly so) for Dwimmermount but this is pathetic! This is "I'm John Videogames" territory. What a shitshow.

Luca · June 11, 2018, 05:27:02 PM

It would have been infinitely better for both the creator and the backers to declare it a failure a long time ago and end it then and there.

Sometimes, you really need to understand when it's better to cut your losses. This is one of those times.

Warboss Squee · June 11, 2018, 06:14:22 PM

My first child was born the same December Far West was supposed to drop.

She turns seven this year.

Spinachcat · June 11, 2018, 06:58:22 PM

Better late than never....if it gets produced this year (or next).

thedungeondelver · June 11, 2018, 08:15:31 PM

Quote from: Spinachcat;1043422Better late than never....if it gets produced this year (or next).

"Well there I was on my way to the computer to put the finishing touches on, and I tripped on a dice and badly wrenched my knee and sprained my thumb in the fall...it'll be out next year though guys after I take a much needed healing sabbatical and leave of absence!"

Fiasco · June 11, 2018, 08:46:59 PM

Quote from: thedungeondelver;1043431"Well there I was on my way to the computer to put the finishing touches on, and I tripped on a dice and badly wrenched my knee and sprained my thumb in the fall...it'll be out next year though guys after I take a much needed healing sabbatical and leave of absence!"

To be authentic you'd need to launch a Go Fund Me for the medical bills.

thedungeondelver · June 11, 2018, 08:49:55 PM

Quote from: Fiasco;1043436To be authentic you'd need to launch a Go Fund Me for the medical bills.

and a Kickstarter to cover the GoFundMe promotional materials.

Aglondir · June 11, 2018, 11:59:57 PM

Quote from: Luca;1043412It would have been infinitely better for both the creator and the backers to declare it a failure a long time ago and end it then and there.

Sometimes, you really need to understand when it's better to cut your losses. This is one of those times.

But Open D6 will save it!

I didn't back Far West, but I did get burned on Gary Sarli's "E20." Anyone remember that?

Shawn Driscoll · June 12, 2018, 12:30:20 AM

Hopefully, people aren't blindly funding Kickstarters just because "RPG" anymore.

JeremyR · June 12, 2018, 01:42:14 AM

Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;1043463Hopefully, people aren't blindly funding Kickstarters just because "RPG" anymore.

I don't know about RPGs, but the new "Atari" console has pulled in almost $3 million...so they are still blindly funding things in general

thedungeondelver · June 12, 2018, 02:13:43 AM

Quote from: JeremyR;1043466I don't know about RPGs, but the new "Atari" console has pulled in almost $3 million...so they are still blindly funding things in general

No politics here but with the economy getting better we can expect to see more of this ridiculous shit.

GeekEclectic · June 12, 2018, 02:31:38 AM

Quote from: Aglondir;1043456But Open D6 will save it!

I didn't back Far West, but I did get burned on Gary Sarli's "E20." Anyone remember that?

Well, I did back it, and I've been getting the recent updates, and I have no idea what to think about that. On the one hand, if it actually happens, d6 is far preferable to d20. On the other hand . . . I'm kinda over it. Western wuxia sounded great 7 years ago, but I'm into urban fantasy and space stuff now.

Christopher Brady · June 12, 2018, 02:59:22 AM

Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;1043463Hopefully, people aren't blindly funding Kickstarters just because "RPG" anymore.

Because, as best I can tell, most people care about the promise of a good product than receiving one.

Quote from: thedungeondelver;1043469No politics here but with the economy getting better we can expect to see more of this ridiculous shit.

Sad but true.

Melan · June 12, 2018, 04:07:21 AM

Quote from: Luca;1043412It would have been infinitely better for both the creator and the backers to declare it a failure a long time ago and end it then and there.

Sometimes, you really need to understand when it's better to cut your losses. This is one of those times.

Can Kickstarters legally fail? I haven't looked too deeply into it, but it seems you can delay them to infinity, but you have to deliver something at the end, even if it is a cop-out leaving everyone disappointed.

Sure, it'd be cleaner to admit failure and take the final dose of the rep hit, but if doing so would expose GMS to refund claims, he can't really back out - pretty sure that money is all gone, and no release now would recoup it.

Gabriel2 · June 12, 2018, 10:32:46 AM

A few Kickstarters have resulted in some cases. Legally it has been decided that a Kickstarter is a pre-order for product. The current TOS KSes run under is set up so a creator can simply say "we're working on it" for eternity and not deliver anything. I don't think there's a hard legal ruling yet about what is a reasonable timeframe for a creator to shit or get off the pot, but I do think it's pretty strongly decided that if backers get tired of waiting they are legally entitled to a refund since they aren't getting their product they pre-ordered in a timely manner.

Of course, unless an expensive legal campaign is done, all this is under the honor system.