How much was changed? What was changed?

Quote from: Omega;1057724How much was changed? What was changed?

Palladium Fantasy 1e Revised used a very early version of the Palladium system.  It lacked SDC for one thing.  There was no PPE.  Magic casters just had a number of spells per day they could cast.  Espers still had ISP, though.

Each class had it's own combat progression chart instead of the modern Basic/Expert/Martial Arts/Assassin forms.  Bonuses were lower.

I think 1e had a different skill list.  It's been many years since I've owned a copy.

Whether 1e or 2e is better depends on what you use Palladium products for.  If you want Megaversality out of the products, then 1e is less than ideal because it's a system which has more in common with the original Mechanoids than any of the other games the company makes.  On the other hand, 2e uses roughly the same system as the rest of the company's output, so it's easier to swap characters between worlds.  Also, there's the matter of familiarity.  More people have played the HU, RT, Rifts style engine than the original PF 1e engine, so PF 2e is preferable to them.  Still, many people say PF 1e plays better because it isn't bogged down with the rest of the modern Palladium system.

Quote from: Omega;1057724How much was changed? What was changed?

1e was a very different game, very clearly more closely inspired by AD&D, but with significant differences. It was kind of a hybrid between AD&D and what would become the Palladium system.

In 2e, they swept all that away and made it totally conforming to the standard Palladium system.

Thanks. Thats what I thought as it seems vaguely familiar. I believe I have both but a good chunk of my Palladium books are in storage and cant check.

A funny detail about BTS was that it was where the character of Lazlo Zand first showed up. He later on became very important in RIFTS.

Quote from: RPGPundit;1058505A funny detail about BTS was that it was where the character of Lazlo Zand first showed up. He later on became very important in RIFTS.

Think you mean Victor Lazlo? And correct. He originated in BTS. Rifts other connection is with After the Bomb for TMNT. You see several seeds of the Coalition there.

Quote from: Omega;1058557Think you mean Victor Lazlo? And correct. He originated in BTS. Rifts other connection is with After the Bomb for TMNT. You see several seeds of the Coalition there.

And the mutation rules for the Dog Boys.

RIFTs is both a genre mashup and a rules mashup. The inspiration can be seen in a lot of places.

Quote from: Omega;1058557Think you mean Victor Lazlo? And correct. He originated in BTS. Rifts other connection is with After the Bomb for TMNT. You see several seeds of the Coalition there.

Right, I mixed up the name with a Robotech character.

Quote from: Omega;1058557Think you mean Victor Lazlo? And correct. He originated in BTS. Rifts other connection is with After the Bomb for TMNT. You see several seeds of the Coalition there.

The name showed up first in pacesetter's "Sandman" (1985) ... dont remember if there was any connection

Not to be confused with "Lazlo Holyfeld". Smartest guy in the world. Lives in the steam-tunnels below Pacific University via the closet of Chris Knight - who might be the original Cyberknight.


I could be making this all up.

Edit: and yes it's perfectly natural to eat your jello naked if it's hot outside.

Quote from: tenbones;1058824Not to be confused with "Lazlo Holyfeld". Smartest guy in the world. Lives in the steam-tunnels below Pacific University via the closet of Chris Knight - who might be the original Cyberknight.


I could be making this all up.

Edit: and yes it's perfectly natural to eat your jello naked if it's hot outside.

That's "Real Genius" of you.

Maybee Kevin liked Casablanca?

Quote from: Omega;1058557Think you mean Victor Lazlo? And correct. He originated in BTS. Rifts other connection is with After the Bomb for TMNT. You see several seeds of the Coalition there.

And (I think it is called...) KLS Corporation which made the original Glitterboy, as written in Mutants in Orbit. The same corporation made laser resistant armor suits in Heroes Unlimited.

Quote from: everloss;1058944And (I think it is called...) KLS Corporation which made the original Glitterboy, as written in Mutants in Orbit. The same corporation made laser resistant armor suits in Heroes Unlimited.

Those are some interesting Easter Eggs. I wonder if Palladium has more of those?