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Title: HARP Hard-Covers images
Post by: trechriron on December 13, 2014, 10:17:59 PM
I ordered the hard covers of all the HARP books, here some images I wanted to share. The quality is spectacular, I'm very impressed.

(http://www.10nw-web.com/tc/h1.jpg)

(http://www.10nw-web.com/tc/h2.jpg)

(http://www.10nw-web.com/tc/h3.jpg)

(http://www.10nw-web.com/tc/h4.jpg)

(http://www.10nw-web.com/tc/h5.jpg)

(http://www.10nw-web.com/tc/h6.jpg)

(http://www.10nw-web.com/tc/h7.jpg)

(http://www.10nw-web.com/tc/h8.jpg)

(http://www.10nw-web.com/tc/h18.jpg)

(http://www.10nw-web.com/tc/h9.jpg)
Title: HARP Hard-Covers images
Post by: trechriron on December 13, 2014, 10:19:31 PM
And a couple more...  :-)

(http://www.10nw-web.com/tc/h10.jpg)

(http://www.10nw-web.com/tc/h11.jpg)

(http://www.10nw-web.com/tc/h12.jpg)

(http://www.10nw-web.com/tc/h13.jpg)

(http://www.10nw-web.com/tc/h14.jpg)

(http://www.10nw-web.com/tc/h15.jpg)

(http://www.10nw-web.com/tc/h16.jpg)

(http://www.10nw-web.com/tc/h17.jpg)
Title: HARP Hard-Covers images
Post by: Necrozius on December 13, 2014, 10:31:13 PM
That IS some gorgeous artwork. I can't believe that I haven't heard of this game before. Thanks for sharing!

(I don't suppose that I could beg for you to post some of those artists' names eh? :o)
Title: HARP Hard-Covers images
Post by: Herne's Son on December 14, 2014, 12:02:25 AM
I've been somewhat confused about HARP. I know it came out a few years ago, then went away, then ICE did some weird stuff, and now it's back, or something?

Is the current version a new edition, or reprint of the original version from a few years ago?

And does it relate to RM/MERP somehow?
Title: HARP Hard-Covers images
Post by: Beagle on December 14, 2014, 02:54:11 AM
Quote from: Herne's Son;804452And does it relate to RM/MERP somehow?

HARP is basically a more streamlined and setting-neutral take on the Rolemaster/MERP system. It might differ in some details, but the core of the rules are bascially the same.
Title: HARP Hard-Covers images
Post by: trechriron on December 14, 2014, 03:58:04 AM
The story goes:

There was this dude working with the people who own the rights to ICE and their games. They were not happy and went in another direction (Guild Companion Publications) who now works with the people who own ICE. It's like a complicated shadow company thing, but it's not really important.

The game came out circa 2004, then was later revised. The books you're looking at are the revised editions (HARP Fantasy). The Sci-Fi books are the newest iteration and what inspired the revised fantasy edition.

Artists is a long list;

HARP Fantasy

HARP Fantasy New Interior Art: Maria Duffield, Raymond
Gaustadnes, Rick Hansen, Craig John

Original HARP Interior Art: Toren "MacBin" Atkinson,
Peter Bergting, David Bezzina, Matt Foster, Eric Hotz, Mike
Jackson, Jeff Laubenstein, Pat Ann Lewis, Larry MacDougall,
Jennifer Meyer, Colin Throm, Kieran Yanner;

Cover Art: Ciruelo: "Fafner";

HARP Martial Law

HARP Martial Law New Interior Art: Maria Duffield,
Raymond Gaustadnes, Rick Hansen;

Cover Art: James Ryman;

Original Interior Art: Toren "MacBin" Atkinson,
David Bezzina, John Dollar, Eric Hotz, Mike Jackson,
Jeff Laubenstein, Pat Ann Lewis, Larry MacDougall,
Colin Throm;

HARP College of Magics

HARP College of Magics New Interior Art: Maria Duffield,
Raymond Gaustadnes, Rick Hansen, Dan O'Donnell;

Cover Art: Jim Nelson;

Original Interior Art: Toren Atkinson, Peter Bergting,
David Bezzina, Joel Biske, John Dollar, Mike Jackson, Jeff
Laubenstein, Pat Ann Lewis, Larry MacDougall, Jennifer
Myer, Colin Throm; Keirston Vande Kraats;
Title: HARP Hard-Covers images
Post by: trechriron on December 14, 2014, 04:07:30 AM
HARP Sci-Fi

Interior Artwork: Rick Hansen and Craig John

Cover Artwork: Joel Lovell

HARP Sci-Fi Extreme

Interior Artwork: Maria Duffield, Rick Hansen, Joel Lovell

Cover Artwork: Joel Lovell
Title: HARP Hard-Covers images
Post by: Necrozius on December 14, 2014, 07:09:40 AM
Thank you for taking the time to post all those names. i'm going to look them up. I really like that art: It makes me feel nostalgic for some reason.
Title: HARP Hard-Covers images
Post by: Saladman on December 14, 2014, 09:36:30 AM
Quote from: Herne's Son;804452And does it relate to RM/MERP somehow?

The story I recall was it started development as a basic/intro product for Rolemaster, but morphed into a stand-alone game by the time it was completed.  The Rolemaster heritage is still very clear, but its a lot more streamlined than you would expect from hearing that.

It looks like a good game, but I never got to test drive it - just no interest in my gaming circle the first time around.  I still wouldn't mind doing something with it, but I have an embarrassment of riches now for games to choose from, and its never quite gotten to the top of the list.
Title: HARP Hard-Covers images
Post by: Piestrio on December 14, 2014, 10:44:01 AM
Thanks for the pictures, those books like really hight quality.

A quick question:

Once upon a time HARP was my "Holy-Grail" RPG. We played it for most of a year before shelving it due to feeling that the power curve was too steep. We wanted to spend more time as unlikely adventurers growing in skill when in fact we felt whip-lashed from incompetent n00bs to uber powerful Godletts.

Do you think that issue was addressed in the revision?
Title: HARP Hard-Covers images
Post by: RunningLaser on December 14, 2014, 12:29:14 PM
Nice:). Are those POD?
Title: HARP Hard-Covers images
Post by: trechriron on December 15, 2014, 01:14:31 AM
Quote from: Piestrio;804515Thanks for the pictures, those books like really hight quality.

A quick question:

Once upon a time HARP was my "Holy-Grail" RPG. We played it for most of a year before shelving it due to feeling that the power curve was too steep. We wanted to spend more time as unlikely adventurers growing in skill when in fact we felt whip-lashed from incompetent n00bs to uber powerful Godletts.

Do you think that issue was addressed in the revision?

I don't know. It read to me like there is a natural "power cap" based on the cost of skills naturally getting "more expensive" (less % per point). Also, the flat 50 development points per level is important. I loathe the DP by stat method (seems very silly for a game of this nature). If I wanted people to hang "low" for longer, I would just award less DP per level (I think they discuss that as an option).

Also, in the "revised" notes they discuss some things that lead me to believe "balance" was addressed. I will post that text for you to peruse.

Quote from: RunningLaser;804520Nice:). Are those POD?

They are. From OBS (lightning Source IIRC).
Title: HARP Hard-Covers images
Post by: trechriron on December 15, 2014, 01:20:23 AM
HARP Revised changes: (from the book pg. 7)

So for those who are already fans of HARP, here is what has changed:


Whether you are an aficionado of HARP or a newcomer to the game, I sincerely hope that you will enjoy playing and gamemastering HARP Fantasy as much as I have.

—Nicholas HM Caldwell
Title: HARP Hard-Covers images
Post by: trechriron on December 15, 2014, 01:25:20 AM
Martial Law changes:  (from book pg. 5)

Editor's Notes

Significant portions of the original Martial Law material made its way into the 2004 192-page edition of HARP. In updating Martial Law into this enhanced version, we have tried to ensure that this Martial Law edition is consistent with both HARP Fantasy and HARP SF and have added some new material and lots of great new art.

The change list is as follows:


Enjoy Martial Law

— Nicholas HM Caldwell
Title: HARP Hard-Covers images
Post by: trechriron on December 15, 2014, 01:29:29 AM
College of Magics changes:  (from pg. 5 in the book)

Editor's Note

This is an enhanced version of the original College of Magics, which incorporates feedback from years of actual play. For aficionados of the game, the changes between the original 2004 edition and this version are as follows:

Title: HARP Hard-Covers images
Post by: RPGPundit on December 18, 2014, 02:41:36 PM
Not a system I'm a big fan of, but the art and format certainly looks nice.
Title: HARP Hard-Covers images
Post by: TheShadow on December 19, 2014, 07:35:42 AM
Nice looking books. I've been meaning to pick up the HARP SF hardcovers.