Greetings from an Old School RPGer

Tristram Evans · January 05, 2017, 06:37:06 AM

Quote from: The Butcher;938660This game is OSR RaHoWa

I was trying to recall that name of that game to make the same comparison.

QuoteIf everyone's comfortable with this, well fuck it, I'm in the wrong message board.

Well, chances are its a troll.

Willie the Duck · January 05, 2017, 07:12:32 AM

Quote from: The Butcher;938660If everyone's comfortable with this, well fuck it, I'm in the wrong message board.

I dare say few if anyone is happy with this at all, and plenty of people have made negative comments about it. I think it's finding the right way of saying, 'this isn't TBP. We won't censor or censure this, but we will mock it unceremoniously.'

And, to expand on what Tristam said, could be troll, could be racist looking for at the anti-TBP board and trying to feel out whether they'll find an accepting audience, or they could be being perfectly honest and think one can look past the author's politics. We shall see.

Tristram Evans · January 05, 2017, 07:23:46 AM

Quote from: CRKrueger;938584First of all, what is wrong with Papyrus?

Well, there's some level of irony of a game written by a white nationalist in a font specifically celebrating a black culture, but besides that...

http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/2011/02/10-iconic-fonts-and-why-you-should-never-use-them/

Opaopajr · January 05, 2017, 08:10:02 AM

*pushes Maztica box set out of sight*

Willie the Duck · January 05, 2017, 08:33:45 AM

Quote from: Tristram Evans;938679Well, there's some level of irony of a game written by a white nationalist in a font specifically celebrating a black culture, but besides that...

http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/2011/02/10-iconic-fonts-and-why-you-should-never-use-them/

Neither your link nor Wikipedia mention any connection to black culture.

AsenRG · January 05, 2017, 08:55:33 AM

Quote from: The Butcher;938660This game is OSR RaHoWa and I'm aghast that anyone would consider the "fluff" acceptable campaign material.

If everyone's comfortable with this, well fuck it, I'm in the wrong message board.

I'm not interested in the fluff, but the mechanics might be fun (unless the Pundit can explain his objections to them). There's more than a few games I own which are set in a setting I have no interest of, this one isn't all that different from them:).

Admittedly, I'm not sure whether I'd choose to look past the author's policies, but I might, and I'd like to point that the OP also mentioned having changed the setting;).

Tristram Evans · January 05, 2017, 08:56:55 AM

Quote from: Willie the Duck;938696
Neither your link nor Wikipedia mention any connection to black culture.

lol, I didn't anticipate anyone needing that explained

here you go: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papyrus

Tristram Evans · January 05, 2017, 08:59:16 AM

Quote from: AsenRG;938699but the mechanics might be fun

I wouldn't count on that...

Xanther · January 05, 2017, 10:11:07 AM

Quote from: AsenRG;938699..
Admittedly, I'm not sure whether I'd choose to look past the author's policies, but I might, and I'd like to point that the OP also mentioned having changed the setting;).

One of the strongest votes you can make is with your wallet, I ask myself, would I want any of my money in this author's pocket? Admittedly, I don't know what most authors would do with the money they get, but when I know I can't just bury my head in the sand.

Gruntfuttock · January 05, 2017, 10:49:47 AM

Quote from: Xanther;938711One of the strongest votes you can make is with your wallet, I ask myself, would I want any of my money in this author's pocket? Admittedly, I don't know what most authors would do with the money they get, but when I know I can't just bury my head in the sand.

Very true. The author is a racist arsewipe, and doesn't deserve anyone's cash.

I don't think he deserves the oxygen of publicity.

Personally, I wouldn't give him the oxygen of oxygen.

YMMV

Willie the Duck · January 05, 2017, 10:51:09 AM

Quote from: Tristram Evans;938700lol, I didn't anticipate anyone needing that explained

here you go: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papyrus

Y'know, what I missed was the 'a' in 'a black culture,' so I was thinking "how does a font celebrate black culture? (as in the generic concept, maybe a famous black typesetter invented it)" Ok. Egypt. Not all that black, certainly not the only people who used papyrus, but I see it.

trechriron · January 05, 2017, 01:35:01 PM

I asked my question of the OP for several reasons;

1) I abhor what RPG.net has become. I adore theRPGsite because it's a place we can actually discuss ANYTHING and complete that discussion to OUR (the posters) satisfaction. Ugly warts and all.
2) In order to have discussions we need to be engaged. I was curious, what with the controversy of the author, what the OP felt about the game.
3) I was genuinely curious about the specifics of the game. Just because (IMHO) Chik-Fil-A is owned by some angry Christian bigots does not in fact mean that Chik-Fil-A's food is bad. In fact, it's quite the contrary.
4) I have no filter, so poking the Elephant in the Room is something I'm psychologically compelled to do.

Butcher - you're not on the wrong board. You're on the best board. If people opposed to the author, or people who find the work to be lacking don't post, then theRPGsite becomes another echo chamber. I think all opinions should be openly shared so everyone has the most information to make informed decisions for themselves.

cranebump · January 05, 2017, 01:37:39 PM

Quote from: The Butcher;938660If everyone's comfortable with this, well fuck it, I'm in the wrong message board.

I wouldn't run it, for what it's worth, nor would a lot of other folks here, I assume. But, as it's a game, I wouldn't trundle on someone else fiddling with it, because, again, it's a game.

Black Vulmea · January 05, 2017, 03:04:46 PM

Quote from: trechriron;938749I have no filter, so poking the Elephant in the Room is something I'm psychologically compelled to do.

Same here.

What the fuck is wrong with us?!

crkrueger · January 05, 2017, 03:28:15 PM

Threadjack on Fonts, so feel free to ignore it.

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Quote from: Tristram Evans;938679Well, there's some level of irony of a game written by a white nationalist in a font specifically celebrating a black culture, but besides that...

Yeah that only speaks to it's use within Myfarog, which isn't the question I asked.

Quote from: Tristram Evans;938679http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/2011/02/10-iconic-fonts-and-why-you-should-never-use-them/

Yeah but breaking down that list:
1. Impact: "it’s too thin, too focused and too amateurish to stand out." - "Too thin", too thin for what? ok that sounds like 1 opinion. "Too focused" - what does that even mean, for some things don't you want that? "Too amateurish" - ah artistic snobbery, this I understand. I expect the real reason is: It's been overused by the Hoi Polloi.
2. Thesans Basic : The Q is fucked. Perfect reason.
3. Trajan: Hollywood overused it.
4. Arial: Too much like Helvetica
5. Comic Sans: Looks like a font in kid's books. Yeah it does. Doesn't mean it doesn't have it's purpose, and a Superhero RPG may be one of them.
6. Franklin Gothic: Great Font misused by the wrong sort of people. Artisitic elitism, again this I understand.
7. Helvetica: Overused
8. Handwritten fonts: Gimmicky, I can see it. It's faux-personality.
9. Courier: Disproportional lettering, I can see it. However, this whole article is about fonts not to use ON THE WEB.
10. Papyrus : According to that author (an 18 year old): "Papyrus is the king of bad fonts. Equal parts childish, kitschy and irritating, this ugly piece of typography has found its way into everything from film posters (Avatar, anyone?) to logos for credit unions.
It has become such a universal annoyance that several anti-Papyrus blogs have popped up.
As with Comic Sans, avoid this typeface if you want to be taken seriously. Unlike other reviled typefaces, though, Papyrus isn’t bad because it is overused: it’s bad because it just doesn’t look good. Kitschy, cheap and vile, Papyrus has no place in your designs.

So don't use Papyrus because an 18 year old web designer needs to gain self-esteem and artistic cred for his personal opinions by finding things to malign under some form of "artistic common wisdom", which really means his brain has to justify the cutting edge and appropriate Fonts he paid $300 each for. Yeah...Ok.

Elites laughing at the Plebs...I thought there was a real reason.

It seems...obviously...that its quasi-ancient-looking styling would be inappropriate, and not the right tone, for a whole lot of things.
A fantasy roleplaying game, however, doesn't seem to be among them I wouldn't think.

However, I'm totally with you that a Nordic-Supremacist RPG using a font that was designed to evoke Egypt/Babylon/Assyria, etc. seems a satirically inappropriate choice.