Quote from: Omega;940066uh... wait... Does this take into account the bell curve? Because rolling 3d6 means that you are going to get alot of rolls at the peak and very very few at the far ends.

Tell that to the guys that ran through two of my adventures.  Every time they had to roll a Religious Tradition or Rune Lore roll they rolled a 5 or less, and on two occasions one guy rolled a natural 1-1-1.  It really became quite funny that they rolled terribly for their strongest skills.

But the 3D6 system as you say does produce an average result of between an 11 and 12, and the typical difficulty used is generally between an 8 - 10 - 12.  I did throw a few challenges of difficulty 14 at the players, and one player rolled a modified 21.

As promised, here is my MYFAROG character:


Torsten Aagaard of the tribe, Sipparii, and the birthplace of Stemsound, Agidir is of the Thulean race. By the age of 18, he was trained as a young warrior and raised in the life stance of Asatru. Being a fairly large man, 6' 1" and 193 lbs, his Strength (17) and hearty Constitution (14) is not unexpected. His Dexterity (14) does however come with a bit of surprise, as does his sharp minded Intelligence (13). He has a strong Willpower (12) but that is only at the upper levels of what is common among his people. Only his Charisma (10) is truly average, but not due to any lack of force of personality, but due to a stubbornness and being somewhat abrasive.

Torsten has a naturally athletic talent, which allows him to maintain an extraordinary tempo in strenuous activities and particularly in combat. His only flaw goes back to his stubborn and at times selfish behavior, where he puts his own needs ahead of others. This character flaw has lead to his current status of being deemed an outlaw, which will be explained later.

Torsten hails from the port town of Stemsound. That being said, it was only natural that he would be raised and trained in Seamanship, and Navigation. Along with his training as a warrior, it was likely that he would take to joining raiding parties on the long, "Dragon" boats that his people would be famed for. It was during one such a raid that he ran afoul of a fellow companion, who held higher standing than he back in their town. A false allegation of incompetence, that supposedly lead to the death of one of their companions, was taken as fact even though no evidence was provided. The law required that Torsten serve a punishment of a one month and one day term as a temporary thrall. Torsten refused, even with the threat that it would tarnish his family name, and instead he departed an outlaw with personal pride in his heart and a vow of vengeance on his lips. He swore that he would return one day, and slay the petite lord (at the time) that so slandered him. Thus brings his three major flaws together, his selfishness lead to forming a powerful enemy and his outlaw status.

If encountered in the early part of his career, Torsten will be sailing with a notorious outlaw raider and pirate, Torvic "The Grey Hand". He is typically wearing a Fur Shirt (Armor 1) and carrying a Wooden Shield (AV 1), along with three weapons: A Battle Axe; Belaying Pin, and a Throwing Axe.


[Note] This character backstory, including origins, attributes, and flaws were all randomly rolled and the story and description was pieced together from there. Only his profession was chosen, but only after the random attributes steered me towards that build.

This character was generated using the following rules: MYFAROG Core Book 2.6; Curses & Gifts (Supplement); Dues Ex Machina (Supplement); and The Coming (Supplement and Alternative Setting).

Quote from: AsenRG;940035Your demand was for "one of a type of systems" instead of one from another type

No, I demanded nothing from Modiphius, the designers or the game system.  Commenting or even criticizing is not demanding by any stretch of the definition, no matter how heated the discussions of the points of criticism becomes.

Quote from: Bluddworth;940079But the 3D6 system as you say does produce an average result of between an 11 and 12, and the typical difficulty used is generally between an 8 - 10 - 12.

3d6 averages 10.5 - which (last I checked) is not between 11 & 12.  (3.5 average each)  It's on a bell curve, so chances are nearly 50% (48.14% to be exact) that any given roll is 9-12.

Quote from: Bluddworth;940079Tell that to the guys that ran through two of my adventures.  Every time they had to roll a Religious Tradition or Rune Lore roll they rolled a 5 or less, and on two occasions one guy rolled a natural 1-1-1.  It really became quite funny that they rolled terribly for their strongest skills.

But the 3D6 system as you say does produce an average result of between an 11 and 12, and the typical difficulty used is generally between an 8 - 10 - 12.  I did throw a few challenges of difficulty 14 at the players, and one player rolled a modified 21.

OK, so it's a 3d6 bell curve. The previous post left me wondering whether you're rolling 3d6 for everything, or (1+a number dependent on attribute) d6s, for example;).

BTW, when you say "an average result of 11-12", are you including a +1 modifier that your PC has? Because the average result of 3d6 is 10-11 (with a very strong likelihood of 9-12, which is why most OSR systems give you a +0 for Attributes in that range:D).

Quote from: CRKrueger;940094No, I demanded nothing from Modiphius, the designers or the game system.  Commenting or even criticizing is not demanding by any stretch of the definition, no matter how heated the discussions of the points of criticism becomes.

Ajokeisajokegreenonereallystopyourestartingtolooktouchyfeely.

Also, apologies if I've misunderstood you, but I think you asked them what are the odds for double-statting the books for a different system? Or was it Mad Professor?

Quote from: Bluddworth;940081As promised, here is my MYFAROG character:


Torsten Aagaard of the tribe, Sipparii, and the birthplace of Stemsound, Agidir is of the Thulean race. By the age of 18, he was trained as a young warrior and raised in the life stance of Asatru. Being a fairly large man, 6' 1" and 193 lbs, his Strength (17) and hearty Constitution (14) is not unexpected. His Dexterity (14) does however come with a bit of surprise, as does his sharp minded Intelligence (13). He has a strong Willpower (12) but that is only at the upper levels of what is common among his people. Only his Charisma (10) is truly average, but not due to any lack of force of personality, but due to a stubbornness and being somewhat abrasive.

Torsten has a naturally athletic talent, which allows him to maintain an extraordinary tempo in strenuous activities and particularly in combat. His only flaw goes back to his stubborn and at times selfish behavior, where he puts his own needs ahead of others. This character flaw has lead to his current status of being deemed an outlaw, which will be explained later.

Torsten hails from the port town of Stemsound. That being said, it was only natural that he would be raised and trained in Seamanship, and Navigation. Along with his training as a warrior, it was likely that he would take to joining raiding parties on the long, "Dragon" boats that his people would be famed for. It was during one such a raid that he ran afoul of a fellow companion, who held higher standing than he back in their town. A false allegation of incompetence, that supposedly lead to the death of one of their companions, was taken as fact even though no evidence was provided. The law required that Torsten serve a punishment of a one month and one day term as a temporary thrall. Torsten refused, even with the threat that it would tarnish his family name, and instead he departed an outlaw with personal pride in his heart and a vow of vengeance on his lips. He swore that he would return one day, and slay the petite lord (at the time) that so slandered him. Thus brings his three major flaws together, his selfishness lead to forming a powerful enemy and his outlaw status.

If encountered in the early part of his career, Torsten will be sailing with a notorious outlaw raider and pirate, Torvic "The Grey Hand". He is typically wearing a Fur Shirt (Armor 1) and carrying a Wooden Shield (AV 1), along with three weapons: A Battle Axe; Belaying Pin, and a Throwing Axe.


[Note] This character backstory, including origins, attributes, and flaws were all randomly rolled and the story and description was pieced together from there. Only his profession was chosen, but only after the random attributes steered me towards that build.

This character was generated using the following rules: MYFAROG Core Book 2.6; Curses & Gifts (Supplement); Dues Ex Machina (Supplement); and The Coming (Supplement and Alternative Setting).

What is the alternative setting in The Coming supplement like;)?

> Notoriously racist murderer and arsonist scumbag writes RPG
> RPG is widely reported to feature blatantly racist content
> OP's "curiosity" is piqued, goes and buys the game

Yeah, business as usual, nothing fishy here.

Well, you can also look at it from the other side.

Members of a forum known for overreacting on rights issues call for a boycott/ban of a book because racism.
OP's curiosity is piqued, goes and buys book to see if they're overreacting yet again.
OP finds he likes it and plays it.

Yeah, nothing fishy in that chain. And this is the chain the OP narrated.

Quote from: Bluddworth;939973I have yet to see, or have used any other race used as the adversary in the my playing experience, as there are plenty of reasons to act against the seemingly 90+% of the population that is Thulean (Nordic tribes).

Have you had Koparmenn or Eirmenn as player characters at your table?

Quote from: AsenRG;940124Ajokeisajokegreenonereallystopyourestartingtolooktouchyfeely.

I'll stop when you will.  If I'm looking sensitive, you're looking passive aggressive, continually trying to push your incorrect fact through without correction, claiming it's no big deal because Joke.

Quote from: AsenRG;940124Also, apologies if I've misunderstood you, but I think you asked them what are the odds for double-statting the books for a different system? Or was it Mad Professor?

You didn't misunderstand us, however you are clearly misunderstanding English because "Is there any chance of another system conversion like was done with Achtung Cthulhu?" is not a demand.

Quote from: CRKrueger;940177I'll stop when you will.  If I'm looking sensitive, you're looking passive aggressive, continually trying to push your incorrect fact through without correction, claiming it's no big deal because Joke.

It wouldn't be a big deal even if it wasn't a joke. The only thing that makes it different is your reaction:).

QuoteYou didn't misunderstand us, however you are clearly misunderstanding English because "Is there any chance of another system conversion like was done with Achtung Cthulhu?" is not a demand.

Yeah, right, you know it's just a mild form of it;)!

Quote from: cranebump;939625The fairness doctrine MADE media outlets provide equal time for opposing views. Now they're just all thrown out there, with no one thinking about, chewing over, or digesting the stew. It's just a bunch of monkeys tossing fudge cakes back and forth,

Please start a thread discussing the Fairness Doctrine on Pungency!!

Quote from: AsenRG;939678Can't argue with that, but I'd like to put it in my sig on TBP:D!

Go for it!

Quote from: AsenRG;939678"Personal responsibility because you bought a game out of curiosity" is a statement best read with the booming voice of a people's prosecutor.

Even better if its a judge from the Puritan era. Then we can all holler back that Bluddworth is a witch!

And you what we do to witches!!

Quote from: Opaopajr;939746*still sheltering my Maztica .pdfs*

Maztica should be a rum drink.

Quote from: Bluddworth;939973I'm wondering if REH's Conan RPG will get the same backlash, since its "fictitious" nationalities have real word counterparts.

The pro-REH faction will declare "its okay to like problematic things" and the anti-REH faction will pee their pants.

Quote from: Omega;940066uh... wait... Does this take into account the bell curve? Because rolling 3d6 means that you are going to get alot of rolls at the peak and very very few at the far ends.

Same as GURPS and HERO system.

Traveller's 2D6 system has these issues as well (to a lesser extent).

But fans of 2D6 and 3D6 systems feel the "lot of rolls at peak" is a feature, not a bug because of the "swinginess" of D20.

Quote from: Spinachcat;940261Please start a thread discussing the Fairness Doctrine on Pungency!!

But...I'm afraid...:-)

Quote from: Black Vulmea;940158Have you had Koparmenn or Eirmenn as player characters at your table?

I haven't yet, but I would.  I don't limit the players with the kinds of characters they choose to play.  I know a few players who have said they are in fact looking to play them.  

I could see writing an adventure specific for them, perhaps some kind of quests that make all Thuleans face a common foe.  Might be cool to do.  However, my current campaign idea is to introduce elements of the Howardian / Lovecraft Cthulhu Mythos into the realms of Thule.  

"The little People" and "The Worms of the Earth" are two of my inspirations for this campaign.

Quote from: AsenRG;940240Yeah, right, you know it's just a mild form of it;)!

Why are so many people lately bucking for Sommerjon's job?

Quote from: AsenRG;940124Also, apologies if I've misunderstood you, but I think you asked them what are the odds for double-statting the books for a different system? Or was it Mad Professor?

I did pray and beg for a multi-system approach.  It is something that Modiphius had done before.  I didn't feel like there was any crime in expressing my criticisms of the 2d20 system, nor in asking for a solution for those who liked the IP but could not enjoy the board gamey narrative point economy that is intrinsic to the mechanics.  I also felt strongly enough about the IP to point out in detail to the designers how those mechanics misrepresent Howard's work.

...so yeah, it was me.