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Title: Greetings Everyone
Post by: DNDWoodElf on February 27, 2017, 09:41:49 PM
Longtime lurker, new poster.

Started playing DND in the early 80's. Stopped mid-way through 2E. Played some WHFRP 1E, Harn, WEG D6 Star Wars, bunch of home-brew stuff. Loved the Rules Cyclopedia. I'm enjoying DND 5E and really enjoying AiME.

From what I have seen, this is the place to dump my bag of dice on the table, grab my pencil, and get ready to relax.
Okay, and that sounds fucking pervy.
Oh well.

Cheers everyone!
Title: Greetings Everyone
Post by: Shipyard Locked on February 27, 2017, 09:53:50 PM
Quote from: DNDWoodElf;947967... and get ready to relax.

Apparently you haven't lurked long enough. :p

Welcome aboard.
Title: Greetings Everyone
Post by: DNDWoodElf on February 27, 2017, 10:17:42 PM
Quote from: Shipyard Locked;947970Apparently you haven't lurked long enough. :p

Welcome aboard.

:D It relaxes me to know that I'm in the company of a bunch of opinionated goofball jackasses just like myself.

Thank you for the welcome.
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Post by: rgrove0172 on February 27, 2017, 10:26:59 PM
Welcome , just make sure you leave your feelings at the door. Eventually you'll be on the wrong side of a discussion and they will be tested!
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Post by: Black Vulmea on February 27, 2017, 10:32:22 PM
Welcome to the adult swim.

And keep your fucking sack off my table.
Title: Greetings Everyone
Post by: DNDWoodElf on February 27, 2017, 10:43:00 PM
Quote from: Black Vulmea;947976Welcome to the adult swim.

And keep your fucking sack off my table.

Quit playing with your pencil at mine and we'll call an uneasy truce that neither of us will honor, because you can't leave your pencil alone and I love dropping my sack on everyone's table.
Title: Greetings Everyone
Post by: DNDWoodElf on February 27, 2017, 10:46:03 PM
Quote from: rgrove0172;947975Welcome , just make sure you leave your feelings at the door. Eventually you'll be on the wrong side of a discussion and they will be tested!

Thank you, noted. If I do get offended I'll make sure to whine and cry about it and demand that the world meets my emotional needs and protects me from the big bad meany.
Title: Greetings Everyone
Post by: Gronan of Simmerya on February 27, 2017, 11:16:32 PM
Quote from: Black Vulmea;947976And keep your fucking sack off my table.

* hits DNDWoodElf's sack with a Lucerne hammer *
Title: Greetings Everyone
Post by: Gronan of Simmerya on February 27, 2017, 11:17:27 PM
Quote from: DNDWoodElf;947977I love dropping my sack on everyone's table.

* smashes your sack with a Lucerne hammer *
Title: Greetings Everyone
Post by: Cave Bear on February 27, 2017, 11:33:38 PM
Hello!

(What's AiMe?)
Title: Greetings Everyone
Post by: Brand55 on February 28, 2017, 01:00:32 AM
Welcome to the madhouse! Kick your feet up and enjoy yourself.
Quote from: Cave Bear;947985Hello!

(What's AiMe?)
Adventures in Middle-earth. It's the D&D 5e version of The One Ring RPG. It's a pretty good take on Tolkien and I like it a lot more than vanilla D&D, so I can't wait for more supplements to come out.
Title: Greetings Everyone
Post by: Baeraad on February 28, 2017, 01:39:50 AM
Yo. :)
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Post by: Spinachcat on February 28, 2017, 01:58:25 AM
Quote from: DNDWoodElf;947974It relaxes me to know that I'm in the company of a bunch of opinionated goofball jackasses

Weirdo. You'll fit in fine.

Welcome aboard.

Just remember your favorite game suxxors, unless its my favorite game, but in that case, you're playing it wrong!
Title: Greetings Everyone
Post by: Marleycat on February 28, 2017, 03:29:58 AM
Quote from: DNDWoodElf;947967Longtime lurker, new poster.

Started playing DND in the early 80's. Stopped mid-way through 2E. Played some WHFRP 1E, Harn, WEG D6 Star Wars, bunch of home-brew stuff. Loved the Rules Cyclopedia. I'm enjoying DND 5E and really enjoying AiME.

From what I have seen, this is the place to dump my bag of dice on the table, grab my pencil, and get ready to relax.
Okay, and that sounds fucking pervy.
Oh well.

Cheers everyone!

You sure? I turn on a dime for example. Well it's your funeral. Welcome to The Adult Swim. Otherwise as Spinachcat said whatever game you love sucks and IF it's something I like you're definitely playing it wrong. If you like 5e we might get along...(shhh...don't tell anybody that though.:)).
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Post by: Opaopajr on February 28, 2017, 03:32:30 AM
Hi new person! Welcome to theRPGSite! :) We're nice and squishy on the inside once you breach our hard candy shells! :)
Title: Greetings Everyone
Post by: Omega on February 28, 2017, 03:46:00 AM
Welcome to wacky world.

Heres your complimentary WWII helmet. Hope you survive the shelling.

What prompred the stop of playing 2e?

I have the original WHFRP. Pretty interesting approach it had.

5e is alot of fun to DM and play in. Even with its occasional flaws. (Ranger, Grappeling Short Rests, bit too Demon-happy)
Title: Greetings Everyone
Post by: Cave Bear on February 28, 2017, 09:05:16 AM
Quote from: Brand55;947990Adventures in Middle-earth. It's the D&D 5e version of The One Ring RPG. It's a pretty good take on Tolkien and I like it a lot more than vanilla D&D, so I can't wait for more supplements to come out.

The One Ring was the one with the funky d12 and d6 dice pools, right?
Does the 5E version keep the positioning/initiative mechanic? I actually liked that one.
Title: Greetings Everyone
Post by: DNDWoodElf on February 28, 2017, 11:19:16 AM
Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;947983* smashes your sack with a Lucerne hammer *

My sack has resistance to bludgeoning damage.
* slaps you in the forehead with my pencil*
Title: Greetings Everyone
Post by: DNDWoodElf on February 28, 2017, 11:22:18 AM
Quote from: Omega;948011Welcome to wacky world.

Heres your complimentary WWII helmet. Hope you survive the shelling.

What prompred the stop of playing 2e?

I have the original WHFRP. Pretty interesting approach it had.

5e is alot of fun to DM and play in. Even with its occasional flaws. (Ranger, Grappeling Short Rests, bit too Demon-happy)

Yeah, I'm really digging 5E, brought me back to DND honestly. 2E was just getting a little too rules-heavy for my taste. Options are cool, but by the same token can be restrictive as well.
Title: Greetings Everyone
Post by: tenbones on February 28, 2017, 11:57:54 AM
Quote from: DNDWoodElf;947977Quit playing with your pencil at mine and we'll call an uneasy truce that neither of us will honor, because you can't leave your pencil alone and I love dropping my sack on everyone's table.

Easy there, tiger. "Playing with people's pencils" and "dropping ones sack" all over the place usually demands some wine-and-dining first. We're gentlemen around here.

Welcome btw!
Title: Greetings Everyone
Post by: DNDWoodElf on February 28, 2017, 12:05:38 PM
Quote from: tenbones;948072Easy there, tiger. "Playing with people's pencils" and "dropping ones sack" all over the place usually demands some wine-and-dining first. We're gentlemen around here.

Welcome btw!

Thanks for the welcome. Is Mad Dog 2020 ok? Or are we refined around here? I have some home-made watermelon wine (I didn't make it, a friend with talent did).
I make some damn good spaghetti if that is good enough for dinner.

Marley, Opa, Spinach, Baer, and anyone I missed, thanks for the welcome!
Title: Greetings Everyone
Post by: Brand55 on February 28, 2017, 12:05:51 PM
Quote from: Cave Bear;948043The One Ring was the one with the funky d12 and d6 dice pools, right?
Yep, it uses a pool of d6 plus a d12, which can either save your ass or completely screw you over if you get the eye of Sauron symbol (11) on it.
Quote from: Cave Bear;948043Does the 5E version keep the positioning/initiative mechanic? I actually liked that one.
No, AiMe plays with normal 5e combat rules. I expect using some form of TOR's combat system would have required a serious overhaul of the classes that were used.
Title: Greetings Everyone
Post by: Omega on February 28, 2017, 12:40:50 PM
Quote from: DNDWoodElf;948067Yeah, I'm really digging 5E, brought me back to DND honestly. 2E was just getting a little too rules-heavy for my taste. Options are cool, but by the same token can be restrictive as well.

But thats all they are. Options. Use or dont. No different from having lots and lots of issues of Dragon (Which I do).
Title: Greetings Everyone
Post by: MonsterSlayer on February 28, 2017, 12:49:14 PM
Quote from: DNDWoodElf;947967Longtime lurker, new poster.

Started playing DND in the early 80's. Stopped mid-way through 2E.

Welcome.

If you had stayed around to the end of 2e you would have been treated to such tomes as "The Complete Book of Slaad Bards, Vol. 2". Feeling pretty foolish now aren't ya?

Hopefully you will stick around here longer and learn not to make such poor decisions.

Now get in the pit and try to love someone....

Signed,
Americuh!
Title: Greetings Everyone
Post by: DNDWoodElf on February 28, 2017, 12:59:39 PM
Quote from: Omega;948085But thats all they are. Options. Use or dont. No different from having lots and lots of issues of Dragon (Which I do).

Yep, absolutely. Just didn't like the feel. Completely subjective on my part. I also didn't care for 3-4. Not badwrongfun, just not my fun. I am a big fan of good ol' becmi and rc.
Title: Greetings Everyone
Post by: trechriron on February 28, 2017, 01:35:33 PM
Welcome to theRPGsite!!
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Post by: Gronan of Simmerya on February 28, 2017, 01:38:31 PM
Quote from: DNDWoodElf;948066* slaps you in the forehead with my pencil*

* chops your pencil in half with an axe *
Title: Greetings Everyone
Post by: DNDWoodElf on February 28, 2017, 02:15:36 PM
Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;948096* chops your pencil in half with an axe *

*prods you with the stub*
Title: Greetings Everyone
Post by: trechriron on February 28, 2017, 03:54:27 PM
*buys a Costco-size bag of pencils, sharpens them and places them on the table between DNDWoodElf and Gronan*

"The Pizza Rolls will be done in 10 minutes!"
Title: Greetings Everyone
Post by: Omega on February 28, 2017, 05:00:51 PM
Quote from: DNDWoodElf;948090Yep, absolutely. Just didn't like the feel. Completely subjective on my part. I also didn't care for 3-4. Not badwrongfun, just not my fun. I am a big fan of good ol' becmi and rc.

Thats ok. I just didnt like the feel of some of the expansion books. They felt somehow lacking in vitality.
Title: Greetings Everyone
Post by: Marleycat on March 01, 2017, 04:46:48 AM
Quote from: DNDWoodElf;948090Yep, absolutely. Just didn't like the feel. Completely subjective on my part. I also didn't care for 3-4. Not badwrongfun, just not my fun. I am a big fan of good ol' becmi and rc.

I wasn't old enough to try anything older then 1e. And 2e just made way more sense to me. Now do you have a clue why I prefer 5e?. I like old school as a concept but hate it in practice unless it's held to a certain point. I'd kill to try RC but not BCMI. I like at-will attack cantrips, I like that only a pure fighter gets 3-4 attacks, I like that wizards aren't useless and have "The Hammer". If only they would have the balls to bring back race as class then I would be in hog heaven but I understand my preference is the minority.
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Post by: Voros on March 01, 2017, 05:36:00 AM
Marleycat, RC is BECMI. I also dig race as class for some reason. I played 1e, you didn't miss anything. Most people ignored approx. 40 percent of the 1e rules to make it playable. Then some bitched when 2e formalized everything they were already doing. The 1e modules did have some definite gems though.
Title: Greetings Everyone
Post by: Marleycat on March 01, 2017, 06:00:08 AM
Quote from: Voros;948211Marleycat, RC is BECMI. I also dig race as class for some reason. I played 1e, you didn't miss anything. Most people ignored approx. 40 percent of the 1e rules to make it playable. Then some bitched when 2e formalized everything they were already doing. The 1e modules did have some definite gems though.

I did say I'm not really old? No offense but when Star Wars came out I couldn't understand why my brother was trying to convince his sister some silly Sci-Fi movie was the Bomb. I thought he was insane and stupid as usual. I saw Star Wars like 7-8 years later and instantly knew why my brother was begging me to see it. I just know what I like even if it isn't the normal? 2e was great for gamer types that didn't play war games or actually know Gygax. I never knew they were the same game. All I knew was I could never get the money together to get the RC. I was into other games by then. But the book was pretty and so fun to read if a friend let me. And for some stupid reason I prefer Race as Class.
Title: Greetings Everyone
Post by: Omega on March 01, 2017, 07:30:40 AM
Quote from: Marleycat;948215I did say I'm not really old? No offense but when Star Wars came out I couldn't understand why my brother was trying to convince his sister some silly Sci-Fi movie was the Bomb. I thought he was insane and stupid as usual. I saw Star Wars like 7-8 years later and instantly knew why my brother was begging me to see it. I just know what I like even if it isn't the normal? 2e was great for gamer types that didn't play war games or actually know Gygax. I never knew they were the same game. All I knew was I could never get the money together to get the RC. I was into other games by then. But the book was pretty and so fun to read if a friend let me. And for some stupid reason I prefer Race as Class.

Rules Cyclopedia on sale as a PDF at DriveThru for 10$.
Title: Greetings Everyone
Post by: Marleycat on March 01, 2017, 07:39:25 AM
Quote from: Omega;948236Rules Cyclopedia on sale as a PDF at DriveThru for 10$.

Tempted you asshole. Not yet but soon. Very soon.:)
Title: Greetings Everyone
Post by: DNDWoodElf on March 01, 2017, 06:27:09 PM
I liked the initial stuff for 2e, but as stated elsewhere it just didn't have the right feel for me. RC is, in my opinion, a very well done compilation/expansion of becmi. I think part of the reason I like 5e so much is that, for me at least, it gives me a similar feel to RC. Race as class and THACO never bothered me one bit.

Marley, my guess is that since you like 5e, even though you're playing it wrong ;-), you would like RC. I do like the skill and weapon mastery rules from RC.
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Post by: cranebump on March 01, 2017, 07:04:45 PM
Quote from: DNDWoodElf;948102*prods you with the stub*

I think you should've stabbed him in the pencil with your forehead, rather than the other way around.:-)
Title: Greetings Everyone
Post by: DNDWoodElf on March 01, 2017, 07:16:32 PM
Quote from: cranebump;948352I think you should've stabbed him in the pencil with your forehead, rather than the other way around.:-)

I dunno, that might send the wrong message, and I'm just not that type of dice-slinger. A little innocent prodding is one thing, but implied lewdness via cranial gesturing towards pencil proximity is a little far. Besides, he might think I'm game for the whole pee-hole thing he keeps talking about.
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Post by: cranebump on March 01, 2017, 07:49:54 PM
Quote from: DNDWoodElf;948361I dunno, that might send the wrong message, and I'm just not that type of dice-slinger. A little innocent prodding is one thing, but implied lewdness via cranial gesturing towards pencil proximity is a little far. Besides, he might think I'm game for the whole pee-hole thing he keeps talking about.

(gasp) I mean his PENCIL! The thing he writes with! I am shocked! Shocked, I say! :-) (yeah, you really gotta stay away from Gronan's pee-hole. Then again, that's pretty easy, because he's always shoving someone down there).:-D
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Post by: Ras Algethi on March 01, 2017, 09:23:32 PM
Welcome!
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Post by: Marleycat on March 04, 2017, 02:01:26 AM
He's just jealous that someone can pee in my pee hole without sticking anything in. If I chose.;)
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Post by: cranebump on March 05, 2017, 09:34:49 AM
Quote from: Marleycat;948215And for some stupid reason I prefer Race as Class.

Same here, but I can never get anyone to play it around here.
Title: Greetings Everyone
Post by: Marleycat on March 06, 2017, 07:20:20 AM
Quote from: Voros;948211Marleycat, RC is BECMI. I also dig race as class for some reason. I played 1e, you didn't miss anything. Most people ignored approx. 40 percent of the 1e rules to make it playable. Then some bitched when 2e formalized everything they were already doing. The 1e modules did have some definite gems though.

It is? I guess you learn something new everyday. I really need to start reading other people's posts I'm so embarrassed I didn't see this hint a page ago. RC is where/why I prefer race as class. I prefer demihumans as de facto multiclassed and humans as single class characters. It just makes total sense to me.
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Post by: Voros on March 06, 2017, 02:51:43 PM
Three people who like race as class. Crazy.
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Post by: Luca on March 06, 2017, 05:08:33 PM
Quote from: Voros;949573Three people who like race as class. Crazy.

Make it at least four...
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Post by: nDervish on March 07, 2017, 05:26:47 AM
So, race-as-class lovers, how do you feel about ACKS-style racial classes?  For those unfamiliar, the ACKS core book's classes include Dwarven Vaultguard, Dwarven Craftpriest, Elven Spellsword, and Elven Nightblade.  Each of these is a unique class (e.g., a Dwarven Vaultguard is very similar to a standard (human) Fighter, but it's not just "Fighter with a Dwarf racial package tacked on") and has its own unique flavor, but doesn't go to the extreme of saying that all dwarves have the same set of abilities.  Personally, this seems to me like the best of both worlds, better than either race-as-class or race-plus-class.
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Post by: Voros on March 07, 2017, 10:53:24 PM
The only real issue to me is demihuman clerics. Why no dwarf clerics? That elves are so tuned into magic that they are warrior wizards makes sense to me. Halflings should be more thiefy that figher too I think.
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Post by: Spinachcat on March 07, 2017, 11:55:44 PM
I ran an B/X campaign once where I made Dwarves into Fighter/Clerics as the counterpoint to Elves as Fighter/Mages. It worked just fine, but the players weren't sold on it since the dwarf media stereotype is pretty strong with many players.

I prefer Race as Class, but even moreso, the idea that Races have their own Classes.

Otherwise, it seems too rubber suit to me.
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Post by: Marleycat on March 08, 2017, 12:04:19 AM
Quote from: nDervish;949732So, race-as-class lovers, how do you feel about ACKS-style racial classes?  For those unfamiliar, the ACKS core book's classes include Dwarven Vaultguard, Dwarven Craftpriest, Elven Spellsword, and Elven Nightblade.  Each of these is a unique class (e.g., a Dwarven Vaultguard is very similar to a standard (human) Fighter, but it's not just "Fighter with a Dwarf racial package tacked on") and has its own unique flavor, but doesn't go to the extreme of saying that all dwarves have the same set of abilities.  Personally, this seems to me like the best of both worlds, better than either race-as-class or race-plus-class.

I like them also. But like Voros I just don't get the no dwarves as clerics. They are the textbook Invoker for godsake's. And should have a class choice of Fighter/Cleric as baseline like elves being Fighter/Mages. Long lived species make more sense as multi-classed basic or other racial only and specific classes. I live 500-2000 years shut up and deal with the fact I have access to options that mix/match basic options that give interesting options at the cost of being more powerful in that singular option. Or have race variants of those basic choices to focus in if I chose.