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Started by DNDWoodElf, February 27, 2017, 09:41:49 PM

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nDervish

So, race-as-class lovers, how do you feel about ACKS-style racial classes?  For those unfamiliar, the ACKS core book's classes include Dwarven Vaultguard, Dwarven Craftpriest, Elven Spellsword, and Elven Nightblade.  Each of these is a unique class (e.g., a Dwarven Vaultguard is very similar to a standard (human) Fighter, but it's not just "Fighter with a Dwarf racial package tacked on") and has its own unique flavor, but doesn't go to the extreme of saying that all dwarves have the same set of abilities.  Personally, this seems to me like the best of both worlds, better than either race-as-class or race-plus-class.

Voros

The only real issue to me is demihuman clerics. Why no dwarf clerics? That elves are so tuned into magic that they are warrior wizards makes sense to me. Halflings should be more thiefy that figher too I think.

Spinachcat

I ran an B/X campaign once where I made Dwarves into Fighter/Clerics as the counterpoint to Elves as Fighter/Mages. It worked just fine, but the players weren't sold on it since the dwarf media stereotype is pretty strong with many players.

I prefer Race as Class, but even moreso, the idea that Races have their own Classes.

Otherwise, it seems too rubber suit to me.

Marleycat

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Quote from: nDervish;949732So, race-as-class lovers, how do you feel about ACKS-style racial classes?  For those unfamiliar, the ACKS core book's classes include Dwarven Vaultguard, Dwarven Craftpriest, Elven Spellsword, and Elven Nightblade.  Each of these is a unique class (e.g., a Dwarven Vaultguard is very similar to a standard (human) Fighter, but it's not just "Fighter with a Dwarf racial package tacked on") and has its own unique flavor, but doesn't go to the extreme of saying that all dwarves have the same set of abilities.  Personally, this seems to me like the best of both worlds, better than either race-as-class or race-plus-class.

I like them also. But like Voros I just don't get the no dwarves as clerics. They are the textbook Invoker for godsake's. And should have a class choice of Fighter/Cleric as baseline like elves being Fighter/Mages. Long lived species make more sense as multi-classed basic or other racial only and specific classes. I live 500-2000 years shut up and deal with the fact I have access to options that mix/match basic options that give interesting options at the cost of being more powerful in that singular option. Or have race variants of those basic choices to focus in if I chose.
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