Who knows if or when this stuff is peaking. I do think that the younger generation (under 25) is less concerned about virtue-signalling than millennials. And in my homeland, the young men under 25 are pretty well aware that it's women who are effectively in charge of education and cultural discourse and doing at least as well economically, the men are scrabbling for a place at the table or dropping out rather than white-knighting.

Quote from: The_Shadow;957514Who knows if or when this stuff is peaking. I do think that the younger generation (under 25) is less concerned about virtue-signalling than millennials. And in my homeland, the young men under 25 are pretty well aware that it's women who are effectively in charge of education and cultural discourse and doing at least as well economically, the men are scrabbling for a place at the table or dropping out rather than white-knighting.

Are these the Herbivore Men we keep hearing about?

Quote from: Tristram Evans;957485Warboss Squee called it: Ninja IV: The Domination

This is why I miss indepentant video rental shops; the 80s was so full of Amazing Ridiculous films that are long forgotten

I know my cheesy 80s movies.

Quote from: Shipyard Locked;957517Are these the Herbivore Men we keep hearing about?

Herbivore Men?

Quote from: Nexus;957554Herbivore Men?

Never heard of it either, but according to Wikipedia,

QuoteHerbivore men or grass-eater men is a term used in Japan to describe men who have no interest in getting married or finding a girlfriend. The term of Herbivore men was also a term that is described as young men who had lost their “manliness”.

See also MGTOW:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_Going_Their_Own_Way

Quote from: Christopher Brady;957433Movies need to make three times their initial investment, which includes the marketing budget, not just the film's (which is why Suicide Squad, for example needed nearly 1 Billion to be considered a hit.)  Ghostbusters (2016) and Passengers (2016) didn't come close, meaning they flopped.

First, the definition of "flop" is actually a film that has a smaller domestic box office than its production budget. (This is specifically because "flop" is a more severe term than "failure" which is a more severe term than "disappointment".)

Second, the rule of thumb you're talking about is actually three times the production budget (not total budget) worldwide in order to be a success. The rule of thumb originated as "domestic box office higher than production budget" because it was assumes that about half of receipts would come from overseas. As the ratio of domestic-to-foreign box office shifted, the shorthand was eventually revised to "twice the worldwide box office". Due to even more skewing towards foreign box office, particularly China where returns for studios are very poor, and much larger marketing budgets some people have begun shifting that to a "three times production budget" rule of thumb.

All of that being said: Yes. Both of those films flopped.

Quote from: Aglondir;957575Never heard of it either, but according to Wikipedia,


See also MGTOW:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_Going_Their_Own_Way

Every stupid little thing is turning into a movement these days.

Quote from: jeff37923;957488I'll put in my 0.02CR as well.

This is virtue signaling by Green Ronin, plain and simple. The company is making it public that they are hiring freelancers based on their genitalia and not necessarily their talent.

Eeep! Triggered! You forgot to mention "....or based on the genitalia that they feel that they should have had"

So if you feel that you should have had a vagina you can always give it a shot.

Quote from: Shipyard Locked;957517Are these the Herbivore Men we keep hearing about?

I'm thinking of young men graduating and going into the workplace, and realising that they are far from privileged, they are making less than their female peers and in many cases being actively discriminated against, for example by HR with hard or soft quotas who will choose a someone other than a white male every time given the choice.

Sure, some of them are dropping out and becoming "herbivores" as not everyone is cut out to be an alpha male and those who aren't, aren't seeing much reward for being a compliant team-playing "beta male" anymore.

Quote from: Aglondir;957575See also MGTOW:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_Going_Their_Own_Way

Stuff like this just makes my head hurt.

Quote from: Trond;957609Eeep! Triggered! You forgot to mention "....or based on the genitalia that they feel that they should have had"

So if you feel that you should have had a vagina you can always give it a shot.

I feel an Epic Troll in the making.....If I cared that much. Maybe 4chan will pick up the gauntlet once they are done with Shia.

Quote from: trechriron;957148It's not complicated. We want more woman creators

Why? Why does it matter what genitals someone has if they're making your games?

Quote from: trechriron;957148I
so let's acknowledge them, let's encourage more female participation. It's NOT excluding male creators.

The ad basically said "no men need apply" that is the dictionary definition of excluding people right there.

Quote from: trechriron;957148One project out of the hundreds of potential projects both announced and just cooking up in the minds of people does not constitute some illegal conspiracy to replace men with women.

"So what if this one restaurant refuses to hire/serve black people there's hundreds of others out there." -the same logic

Quote from: trechriron;957148If you didn't have the hutzpah to be making games before this announcement, and are now discouraged from making games BECAUSE of the announcement, you were never going to be making games in the first place. Stop fucking lying to yourself.

And if you were a woman who said that they needed something like this before they started making games, you're lying to yourself.

Quote from: Simlasa;957219From what I've seen through my friends in local Renaissance Fair 'guilds' there is a large percentage of women there as well.

I mentioned this discussion to my friend while we were at Michaels tonight, shopping for her scrapbooking/crafting supplies... asking if her friends ever discuss the lack of men in their hobby. She said, "We don't want any more men in it!"

Did she say why?

The self-righteous screams of "so unfair to men!" from folks who bitch about histrionic SJW's strike me as tragically ironic (but not very humorous).

I haven't chimed in about the insinuation that guys should be expected to act like assholes (i.e., alpha males, or whatever you want to call them), as if boorishness is their fucking birthright. All I can say on this subject it is, I don't buy bitching and moaning from males that the education system doesn't cater to their "maleness" enough to succeed. Women are outworking us (well, them--I DID my fucking work and excelled in a lot of "male" shit, too [i.e., sports, the military, etc., etc.). They succeed, in part, because, instead of externalizing blame, they take accountability and do the damned work. At least that's what 20 years of watching high school boys fuck around (and excuse their fucking around as "boys will be boys") instead of paying attention has shown me.

Green Ronin wants to give females a shot? More power to them. They've earned it.

Quote from: cranebump;957739The self-righteous screams of "so unfair to men!" from folks who bitch about histrionic SJW's strike me as tragically ironic (but not very humorous).

I haven't chimed in about the insinuation that guys should be expected to act like assholes (i.e., alpha males, or whatever you want to call them), as if boorishness is their fucking birthright. All I can say on this subject it is, I don't buy bitching and moaning from males that the education system doesn't cater to their "maleness" enough to succeed. Women are outworking us (well, them--I DID my fucking work and excelled in a lot of "male" shit, too [i.e., sports, the military, etc., etc.). They succeed, in part, because, instead of externalizing blame, they take accountability and do the damned work. At least that's what 20 years of watching high school boys fuck around (and excuse their fucking around as "boys will be boys") instead of paying attention has shown me.

Green Ronin wants to give females a shot? More power to them. They've earned it.

What an utter load of horseshit.

Quote from: cranebump;957739The self-righteous screams of "so unfair to men!" from folks who bitch about histrionic SJW's strike me as tragically ironic (but not very humorous).

I haven't chimed in about the insinuation that guys should be expected to act like assholes (i.e., alpha males, or whatever you want to call them), as if boorishness is their fucking birthright. All I can say on this subject it is, I don't buy bitching and moaning from males that the education system doesn't cater to their "maleness" enough to succeed. Women are outworking us (well, them--I DID my fucking work and excelled in a lot of "male" shit, too [i.e., sports, the military, etc., etc.). They succeed, in part, because, instead of externalizing blame, they take accountability and do the damned work. At least that's what 20 years of watching high school boys fuck around (and excuse their fucking around as "boys will be boys") instead of paying attention has shown me.

Green Ronin wants to give females a shot? More power to them. They've earned it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22Women_are_wonderful%22_effect