"I am GOD here."

Quote from: Blackhand"I am GOD here."

Hey, no wonder my lawn doesn't look nice anymore. Get back to work!

I think Uncle Ben said it best.

Anybody in a position of power who wants that power for its own sake is automatically suspect at least, if not actually the wrong person to have it.  I don't know exactly what he means by "no matter how good they may be at their chosen art" though.  Those seem to be poorly chosen words.

I'd hope Spinach Baron is talking about the kind of GM like Dexter from Dexter's Laboratory (D&DD).  Overbearing, maniacal and bloodthirsty.  The kind of GM who uses the screen to lie about damage so he can kill characters for the raw pleasure of doing so.  

No matter how good a such GM is at portraying his game he is failing at everything short of Paranoia.  If the game in question is Paranoia though, then things might just be going rather well.  Or possibly Burning Empires.  I understand that game is pretty much "GM vs Players... FIGHT!" in its intention with the GM actually trying to win.

Quote from: GunslingerI think Uncle Ben said it best.

"Eat my rice"?

Quote from: James McMurray"Eat my rice"?

That works too.  :haw:

Quote from: Dr. TranOr possibly Burning Empires.  I understand that game is pretty much "GM vs Players... FIGHT!" in its intention with the GM actually trying to win.

Bloodthirsty is definately supported, although they need a good amount of skill and some luck to pull off killing PCs.

Overbearing and being a cheating bastard not so much supported.

Quote from: StuartWhy did you post 2 threads about this?  I suggest you lock one so that discussion stays focused in one thread, rather than back and forth across two.

They're two different threads. One is about what makes a GM bad. The other one is about the statement: To be a great GM, you must believe that Power ultimately rests with you.

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Quote from: walkerpAnd I'm just going to start attacking you for keyboard courage.  You use language online that you would never use to someone's face.  I suggest you start toning it down, because it's weak.

You don't know me in real life.

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Quote from: James McMurrayIt seems you've misinterpreted the original statement. There's a huge line of difference between thinking GMs should have power and wanting power for its own sake.

No, there isn't.  The original poster of that thread obviously believes that GMs being empowered is bad, so of course any GM who wants power (and which of those evil bastards don't, eh?) will want it "for its own sake".
This analysis of his perspective is proven where, a few moments later, he explicitly states that NO OTHER FACTOR mitigates this. Any GM who believes that the GM should have the ultimate power in a gaming group is a BAD GM, according to this fuckwit, even if he wins a goddamn pulitzer for how great his game was.

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Quote from: CallousJames makes a good point.  The exact phrase and context matters.  GMs IMHO should have power.  They are the ultimate arbitrators in game.  But GMs who seek power over other people (and get their rocks off that way) in a RPG setting by being dictatorial dicks are true pisslapping cunts.

I'm fairly certain that's not what that post was talking about. Otherwise it would have just stopped at saying: "GMs who want power just to lord it over people are bad GMs".

He wouldn't have said "GMs who want power for its own sake are bad GMs EVEN IF EVERYONE LOVES THEIR GMING AND THEY'RE REALLY GOOD AT DOING IT". That last bit implies that the GM isn't using his power to "lord it over" people, and that the poster just has a huge beef with GMs having the ultimate power in the game, period.

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Quote from: RPGPunditNo, there isn't.  The original poster of that thread obviously believes that GMs being empowered is bad, so of course any GM who wants power (and which of those evil bastards don't, eh?) will want it "for its own sake".
This analysis of his perspective is proven where, a few moments later, he explicitly states that NO OTHER FACTOR mitigates this. Any GM who believes that the GM should have the ultimate power in a gaming group is a BAD GM, according to this fuckwit, even if he wins a goddamn pulitzer for how great his game was.

Link?

Quote from: RPGPunditYou don't know me in real life.

This is real life.

Quote from: RPGPunditYou don't know me in real life.

Do you know you in real life?

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Quote from: jhkimLink?

I don't link to RPG.net. However, here is the entirety of his post, word for word:

Quote from: Some shithead from RPG.netI know for certain, that any GM that adheres to the phrase "power for powers sake" is a bad GM, no amtter how good they may be at their chosen art.

That's all that comes to mind off of the top of my head.

That's his entire post, from the thread "What Makes a Bad GM?".  No one called him on it, a few people congratulate him later on in the thread.

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