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Goodman Games Rethinking Its Approach

Started by jeff37923, January 05, 2010, 04:37:53 PM

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Captain Rufus

Quote from: ggroy;353566Only times I picked up any 3PP d20 stuff, was when they were already in the bargain bins.  Several interesting things, such as the Scarred Lands setting books and some 3PP modules.



Same with me.  I picked up a FEW D20 books at MSRP that weren't WOTC, but very few. And they were mostly L5R D20 books compatible on top of regular D20 Oriental Adventures. But on clearance?  It was like Gurps 3rd sourcebooks on clearance.  Anything cool I got, though to use in something else.

Hairfoot

Quote from: ggroy;353611That original Goodman article and subsequent followups, were amusing at the time.

Joe got a six-day ban for posting that link at ENworld today.

Seems Joe Goodman, like god, is not mocked.

ggroy

Quote from: Hairfoot;353722Joe got a six-day ban for posting that link at ENworld today.

It probably wouldn't matter at this point for Joe, considering he hardly posts on ENworld these days.

Reckall

Quote from: Hairfoot;353722Joe got a six-day ban for posting that link at ENworld today.

Seems Joe Goodman, like god, is not mocked.

That blog entry is so funny I'm thinking about plagiarizing it for some blowhards I know in other fields.

But to be fair the original post by Goodman was even funnier, even if unintentionally. :D
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Chgowiz

Quote from: Aos;353463I'm not a 1e fan, but I think OSRIC is a great idea. However it's a great idea with a shit name.  The other two big retro clones (S&W+ LL) have evocative names. When I read or hear OSRIC I think of an old fat guy sipping tea by the fire complaining about his gout.

Ha! That's funny!

I always think of Good King Osric, but that's me.

I can't take credit for the name, but really, it doesn't bother me. It's AD&D.

Chgowiz

Quote from: Shazbot79;353700A good following compared to what?

The majority of the gaming public couldn't give a flying monkey turd about 1st edition anymore, other than as a nostalgic memory of years gone by, usually followed by a series of grimaces. (anecdotally)

OSRIC is, on the surface, an attempt to keep AD&D 1st edition alive in a market filled with newer and better games, when all it's really doing is keeping it hooked to machines that do it's breathing for it.

So no, supporting OSRIC isn't a bad idea, if you were publishing PDF's for a tiny circle of cainotophobic shut ins, but if you actually want to make money...which by all accounts Joseph Goodman does, then it would be an awful idea.

I'm sorry, but that is just funny as hell! :rotfl:

I'll just have to say that the more people I talk to, the more I hear that they like going back and playing those games, that those books are still in use. I don't think we're going to be millions, it's nice to see the interest is still there. But then, I don't need to be popular, all I need is to make a bit of money and Goodman can certainly do that with little effort and a lot of good customer will. Our money spends just as well as anyone else's.

I'll note that you're not interested, so that's cool.

StormBringer

Quote from: Chgowiz;353754Our money spends just as well as anyone else's.
Depends on what edition.  I think they modified the exchange rates with each version; I remember when it was 200 copper to the gold.  :)
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Chgowiz

Quote from: StormBringer;353758Depends on what edition.  I think they modified the exchange rates with each version; I remember when it was 200 copper to the gold.  :)

Yea, but you got XP for that money spent. :cool:

StormBringer

Quote from: Chgowiz;353760Yea, but you got XP for that money spent. :cool:
Hells yeah you did.  These kids today don't know the joy of finding a pile of gold you needed to bump your character to the next level.

"Boo YAH!  That 500gp means I am now 11th level!  SUCK IT, BITCHES!!"
If you read the above post, you owe me $20 for tutoring fees

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Aos

Quote from: Chgowiz;353752Ha! That's funny!

I always think of Good King Osric, but that's me.

I can't take credit for the name, but really, it doesn't bother me. It's AD&D.

Shhhh...I'm just trolling Kellri, man. Edit, btw I've gotten some good use out of your OPD and OPW templates, thanks.
You are posting in a troll thread.

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Peregrin

Quote from: Shazbot79;353700The majority of the gaming public couldn't give a flying monkey turd about 1st edition anymore, other than as a nostalgic memory of years gone by, usually followed by a series of grimaces. (anecdotally)

OSRIC is, on the surface, an attempt to keep AD&D 1st edition alive in a market filled with newer and better games, when all it's really doing is keeping it hooked to machines that do it's breathing for it.

So no, supporting OSRIC isn't a bad idea, if you were publishing PDF's for a tiny circle of cainotophobic shut ins

Funny, that.  Aside from an issue of the size of the player-base, I feel the same way about 3rd edition and some of its hardcore fans.  I've thought about going back and playing 3.x, but every time I'm like, "No, better let it lie."  It's still nostalgic to look at the books, but that's about as far as I get.
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Chgowiz

Quote from: Aos;353763Shhhh...I'm just trolling Kellri, man. Edit, btw I've gotten some good use out of your OPD and OPW templates, thanks.

Kellri rocks awesome sauce. I had to get his CDD#4 printed/bound so I can carry that thing around. He was supposed to be working on an OSRIC "Unearthed Arcana" like book with mass combat and lots more cool stuff.

And you're welcome! Dave "Sham" deserves the credit for pushing that baby into existence.

Chgowiz

Quote from: StormBringer;353762Hells yeah you did.  These kids today don't know the joy of finding a pile of gold you needed to bump your character to the next level.

"Boo YAH!  That 500gp means I am now 11th level!  SUCK IT, BITCHES!!"

500 gp, 11th level? That must have taken you years at that rate of finding treasure. I like your DM! :D

ggroy

Quote from: Chgowiz;353778500 gp, 11th level? That must have taken you years at that rate of finding treasure. I like your DM! :D

Must be monty haul type munchkin DM.

In one game I played back in the day, we went from level 1 to over 20 in a manner of 12 hours.  (It was a marathon game we played).  The DM was extremely generous with treasure and magic items, which made advancement very fast with treasure for XP.

StormBringer

Quote from: Chgowiz;353778500 gp, 11th level? That must have taken you years at that rate of finding treasure. I like your DM! :D
It was something like all of high school, and my Magic User made it to...  15th level?  Then I blew the resurrect survival roll.

Good times.  :)
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- Thomas Paine
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