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Goodman Games apologizes for being white.

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1989

Quote from: mcbobbo on December 05, 2023, 05:16:43 PM
Heredity is not race.

Race is the concept that groups of ethnicities are monoliths who all act the same way, behave the same things, believe the same things, or otherwise are the same.  It's false now, and it always has been false.

It's a tool used exclusively to divide the ignorant so the elites can more easily rule them.

Don't fall for it.

That's definitely not what the concept of race is. Get out of your bedroom.

mcbobbo

Quote from: 1989 on December 07, 2023, 02:48:29 PM
That's definitely not what the concept of race is. Get out of your bedroom.

Yep, that's definitely me.  The cloistered and untraveled.  You sure are well informed!
"It is the mark of an [intelligent] mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."

Eirikrautha

Quote from: mcbobbo on December 07, 2023, 03:40:34 PM
Quote from: 1989 on December 07, 2023, 02:48:29 PM
That's definitely not what the concept of race is. Get out of your bedroom.

Yep, that's definitely me.  The cloistered and untraveled.  You sure are well informed!

You should be appreciative of his politeness.   He chose to interpret your problems as stemming from inexperience, as opposed to the more probable origin: that you are just a self-important moron.
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mcbobbo

Quote from: Eirikrautha on December 07, 2023, 09:18:23 PM

You should be appreciative of his politeness.   He chose to interpret your problems as stemming from inexperience, as opposed to the more probable origin: that you are just a self-important moron.

People who assume incorrect things about others without information are fools, film at 11.
"It is the mark of an [intelligent] mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."

mAcular Chaotic

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Zalman

Quote... a party is strongest when ... acknowledging fantasy's roots while helping it grow to meet the challenges of the future

Nothing highlighted, because it's all egregious.

Sputtering on bile over the claim that "good parties are diverse parties" -- while entirely understandable -- can lead to missing the subtler but more odious shift here:

In the 8th printing, the goal of the game is to have fun. In the 10th printing, the goal of the game is to guide the fantasy genre as a whole onto an ideological path. Says so right there.

These people have clearly lost their minds.
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mcbobbo

Alright, I'm inspired.  I had the 8th printing from a Humble Bundle already, so I've grabbed the 10th and will do a text compare today.  Should that be a separate thread?  Probably?

And yes, I did just give them money, but this is for science...
"It is the mark of an [intelligent] mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."

mcbobbo

Spoiler, but, who is SBP and why is most (but not all) of their art being replaced in the DCC 10th printing?
"It is the mark of an [intelligent] mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."

Melan

They replaced Stefan Poag? Damn, that's sad. His stuff is excellent, and especially fit for DCC's vibe. :(
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mcbobbo

Quote from: Melan on December 08, 2023, 10:07:28 AM
They replaced Stefan Poag? Damn, that's sad. His stuff is excellent, and especially fit for DCC's vibe. :(

To be completely fair, some of the new art is also labeled SBP.  But the style seems different to me.  In the example below, left is 8th and right is 10th printing.
"It is the mark of an [intelligent] mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."

Venka

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Quote from: mAcular Chaotic on December 07, 2023, 11:04:58 PM
No, it is real.

Man that really should be unbelievable.

While there's plenty of greenlisted OSR products, are any of the actual near-clones greenlisted at this point, or were they all targeted and subverted?

GhostNinja

From Tekkars Tavern it appears people reached out regarding the luminaries including Gary GyGax and Dave Arneson being removed and the line is being readded in the next printing:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IsUxirgMaQ

Good news.  Still hate DCC but at least there is one less game company trying to erase Gary and Dave from the hobby.
Ghostninja

BadApple

Quote from: mcbobbo on December 08, 2023, 10:51:29 AM
Quote from: Melan on December 08, 2023, 10:07:28 AM
They replaced Stefan Poag? Damn, that's sad. His stuff is excellent, and especially fit for DCC's vibe. :(

To be completely fair, some of the new art is also labeled SBP.  But the style seems different to me.  In the example below, left is 8th and right is 10th printing.

From that image, it looks as if the guy has been working on his techniques and wanted to update some of the images that weren't up to his standard.  Still, the character of the old one has some flavor to it that is missing in the new one.
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rytrasmi

Quote from: GhostNinja on December 08, 2023, 11:03:41 AM
From Tekkars Tavern it appears people reached out regarding the luminaries including Gary GyGax and Dave Arneson being removed and the line is being readded in the next printing:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IsUxirgMaQ

Good news.  Still hate DCC but at least there is one less game company trying to erase Gary and Dave from the hobby.
Sure good news, but what are the values and principles of this company? Follow whoever screams loudest?
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The ones that crawl in are lean and thin
The ones that crawl out are fat and stout
Your eyes fall in and your teeth fall out
Your brains come tumbling down your snout
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