Quote from: honeydipperdavid on December 05, 2023, 01:13:17 PM

Quote from: mcbobbo on December 05, 2023, 01:09:30 PM

Quote from: Persimmon on December 05, 2023, 12:47:48 PM
Yeah, they issued a statement apologizing for not being inclusive in the original poster and thanking their critics for pointing this out and raising their awareness.  Several of the youtube videos, including this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtyQZjYcyKk
have their statement.

Quote from: Ratman_tf on December 05, 2023, 01:07:09 PM
No, they did not type the exact phrase "We apologize for being white."

They issued a blanket apology for not being "inclusive and diverse" when their poster for their event was all white dudes.
Which is pretty much apologizing for being white.

I wasn't clear.

They were ALREADY in this woke posture.  They were already "Red" on The List.

The topic implies they have done something new.  That they have taken a more extreme stance.

Have they?

They haven't started blackwashing thier developers, but I wouldnt be surprised if Joe Goodman starts identifying as a black lesbian or just cuts his dick of for diversity, either or.

That was always one of my jokes... that if ever confronted by these yahoos I'd reply that I identify as a black lesbian and how dare they try to misgender and racially erase my identity.

Quote from: Chris24601 on December 05, 2023, 03:38:19 PM

Quote from: honeydipperdavid on December 05, 2023, 01:13:17 PM

Quote from: mcbobbo on December 05, 2023, 01:09:30 PM

Quote from: Persimmon on December 05, 2023, 12:47:48 PM
Yeah, they issued a statement apologizing for not being inclusive in the original poster and thanking their critics for pointing this out and raising their awareness.  Several of the youtube videos, including this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtyQZjYcyKk
have their statement.

Quote from: Ratman_tf on December 05, 2023, 01:07:09 PM
No, they did not type the exact phrase "We apologize for being white."

They issued a blanket apology for not being "inclusive and diverse" when their poster for their event was all white dudes.
Which is pretty much apologizing for being white.

I wasn't clear.

They were ALREADY in this woke posture.  They were already "Red" on The List.

The topic implies they have done something new.  That they have taken a more extreme stance.

Have they?

They haven't started blackwashing thier developers, but I wouldnt be surprised if Joe Goodman starts identifying as a black lesbian or just cuts his dick of for diversity, either or.

That was always one of my jokes... that if ever confronted by these yahoos I'd reply that I identify as a black lesbian and how dare they try to misgender and racially erase my identity.

It is the best way of handling it, just drop the race.  You can literally destroy a fucktard by saying I'm gender fluid and you had better address me as maam, then switch again and keep putting on the charade.  And just fuck with them non-stop.

Quote from: honeydipperdavid on December 05, 2023, 03:52:29 PM
It is the best way of handling it, just drop the race.  You can literally destroy a fucktard by saying I'm gender fluid and you had better address me as maam, then switch again and keep putting on the charade.  And just fuck with them non-stop.

Fundamentally, race is a myth anyway.

Quote from: rytrasmi on December 05, 2023, 09:48:27 AM

Quote from: Brad on December 05, 2023, 09:23:47 AM
Goodman Games needs to apologize for phoning it in on the Dying Earth boxed set first; I got cheated.

Mine's still unopened like the other guy. What's the beef?

Quote from: honeydipperdavid on December 05, 2023, 09:27:16 AM

Quote from: Brad on December 05, 2023, 09:23:47 AM
Goodman Games needs to apologize for phoning it in on the Dying Earth boxed set first; I got cheated.

I haven't the heart to open it up frankly.  Its on the shelf, wrapped.

Maybe other people will like it, but I just think it looks and feels like DCC with a thin Vancian veneer instead of an actual Dying Earth game. I do realize it essentially IS DCC with a Vancian veneer, but they could have done a better job of altering mechanics and whatever else to fully enforce the theme instead of shoehorning fancy names and vocabulary into DCC. Basically, instead of changing things to make it more like Dying Earth, they changed things to make it more like DCC, if that makes any sense.

Don't even get me started on the adventures...uniformly generic DCC dungeon crawls (LOL) but with more soliloquies.

Quote from: mcbobbo on December 05, 2023, 04:12:58 PM

Quote from: honeydipperdavid on December 05, 2023, 03:52:29 PM
It is the best way of handling it, just drop the race.  You can literally destroy a fucktard by saying I'm gender fluid and you had better address me as maam, then switch again and keep putting on the charade.  And just fuck with them non-stop.

Fundamentally, race is a myth anyway.

Yeah, I can wait for race based studies to be removed, its for the betterment of white males.  Race is based on skin, the darker the pigment, usually the thicker the skin and the harder the uptake for vitamin D.  Race is a good shorthand to help delineate those differences.

There is a small deviance amongst the genes in humans, however epithelial cell differences impact vision, nutritional defects, disease vulnerability and cancer risk.  I get the left going race doesn't exist.  Ok, lets drop race from medical studies.  What have you seen black skin versus white skin under a microscope - oh so that's why blacks have issues with glaucoma.  Don't worry the left will tell you its diet and systemic racism is why Kenyans and Baltimore blacks have similar glaucoma rates, it has nothing to do with skin.

Take an African move them to Canada, and then compare their rates of respiratory disease to whites living in the same area.  For some reason the Africans will have a higher respiratory disease rate, I wonder why?  Africans are optimized for living in tropical areas with higher sun exposure requiring black skin to protect from skin cancer.  They therefore need more exposure to sunlight generate vitamin D.  Vitamin D is extremely important for protecting individuals from respiratory diseases.  The cold doesn't make people get sick in Winter, its the lack of sunlight and people going outdoors to generate vitamin D that makes them sick.

Epithelial cell differences matter quite a bit, its our largest organ, it makes up our skin, intestines, respiratory tract, lining of abdomen, sweat glands and lens of the eye.

So I'm good with the left ake race doesn't matter, the left are implementing the studies to ignore race and go figure for some reason white men are overly represented because they volunteer more than any other group.  Good for me when dealing with side effects, bad for other races.  Don't get me started on them trying to pretend sex doesn't matter for same studies as well.

Heredity is not race.

Race is the concept that groups of ethnicities are monoliths who all act the same way, behave the same things, believe the same things, or otherwise are the same.  It's false now, and it always has been false.

It's a tool used exclusively to divide the ignorant so the elites can more easily rule them.

Don't fall for it.

Quote from: mcbobbo on December 05, 2023, 05:16:43 PM
Heredity is not race.

Race is the concept that groups of ethnicities are monoliths who all act the same way, behave the same things, believe the same things, or otherwise are the same.  It's false now, and it always has been false.

It's a tool used exclusively to divide the ignorant so the elites can more easily rule them.

Don't fall for it.

Dude I support your leftist faith.  But your evangelicalism of it is falling on deaf ears here.  People who advocate what you advocate for are applying it to medical studies and are killing people directly to it.  But feel free to evangelize.  Its hillarious.

Next as to Race, it identifies a group of people based on location and some similar genetics, that's about it, always has been, always will be.

Quote from: honeydipperdavid on December 05, 2023, 05:29:41 PM

Quote from: mcbobbo on December 05, 2023, 05:16:43 PM
Heredity is not race.

Race is the concept that groups of ethnicities are monoliths who all act the same way, behave the same things, believe the same things, or otherwise are the same.  It's false now, and it always has been false.

It's a tool used exclusively to divide the ignorant so the elites can more easily rule them.

Don't fall for it.

Dude I support your leftist faith.  But your evangelicalism of it is falling on deaf ears here.  People who advocate what you advocate for are applying it to medical studies and are killing people directly to it.  But feel free to evangelize.  Its hillarious.

Next as to Race, it identifies a group of people based on location and some similar genetics, that's about it, always has been, always will be.  You see someone whose black you can call them black or african or ask, people go with that, the same way you see a white person and you assume they are European. 

Quote from: honeydipperdavid on December 05, 2023, 05:29:41 PM
Dude I support your leftist faith.  But your evangelicalism of it is falling on deaf ears here.  People who advocate what you advocate for are applying it to medical studies and are killing people directly to it.  But feel free to evangelize.  Its hillarious.

Next as to Race, it identifies a group of people based on location and some similar genetics, that's about it, always has been, always will be.

If you think I'm an ally to the left, your other opinions can't hold a lot of value.

Quote from: mcbobbo on December 05, 2023, 05:16:43 PM
Heredity is not race.

Race is the concept that groups of ethnicities are monoliths who all act the same way, behave the same things, believe the same things, or otherwise are the same.  It's false now, and it always has been false.

It's a tool used exclusively to divide the ignorant so the elites can more easily rule them.

Don't fall for it.

We're laughing and lamenting about Goodman getting suckered by internet zealots.

You're trying to turn this into some big debate about race. Cool it man, we don't care.

Quote from: rytrasmi on December 05, 2023, 05:39:26 PM
We're laughing and lamenting about Goodman getting suckered by internet zealots.

You're trying to turn this into some big debate about race. Cool it man, we don't care.

Fine, but the word "white" seems to feature pretty prominently in the title, so it's tough to rule that offtopic, IMO.

Quote from: mcbobbo on December 05, 2023, 05:42:40 PM

Quote from: rytrasmi on December 05, 2023, 05:39:26 PM
We're laughing and lamenting about Goodman getting suckered by internet zealots.

You're trying to turn this into some big debate about race. Cool it man, we don't care.

Fine, but the word "white" seems to feature pretty prominently in the title, so it's tough to rule that offtopic, IMO.

I guess I could have called them pinkskins.



Really, if you have a problem with the terminology, maybe you should go hunt down all the idiots in the original tweet using the term "white" and let them know.

Quote from: Brad on December 05, 2023, 04:37:22 PM

Quote from: rytrasmi on December 05, 2023, 09:48:27 AM

Quote from: Brad on December 05, 2023, 09:23:47 AM
Goodman Games needs to apologize for phoning it in on the Dying Earth boxed set first; I got cheated.

Mine's still unopened like the other guy. What's the beef?

Quote from: honeydipperdavid on December 05, 2023, 09:27:16 AM

Quote from: Brad on December 05, 2023, 09:23:47 AM
Goodman Games needs to apologize for phoning it in on the Dying Earth boxed set first; I got cheated.

I haven't the heart to open it up frankly.  Its on the shelf, wrapped.

Maybe other people will like it, but I just think it looks and feels like DCC with a thin Vancian veneer instead of an actual Dying Earth game. I do realize it essentially IS DCC with a Vancian veneer, but they could have done a better job of altering mechanics and whatever else to fully enforce the theme instead of shoehorning fancy names and vocabulary into DCC. Basically, instead of changing things to make it more like Dying Earth, they changed things to make it more like DCC, if that makes any sense.

Don't even get me started on the adventures...uniformly generic DCC dungeon crawls (LOL) but with more soliloquies.

It's sort of the worst of all possible products, because shoehorning Vance into DCC RPG did nothing to improve DCC either. (I like DCC a lot, but it's already a bit on the fiddly side for an OSR-adjacent product. Adding onto it just made it fiddlier. I also think Dying Earth was an odd setting choice for DCC but that's another story.)

Quote from: Ratman_tf on December 05, 2023, 06:00:42 PM

Quote from: mcbobbo on December 05, 2023, 05:42:40 PM

Quote from: rytrasmi on December 05, 2023, 05:39:26 PM
We're laughing and lamenting about Goodman getting suckered by internet zealots.

You're trying to turn this into some big debate about race. Cool it man, we don't care.

Fine, but the word "white" seems to feature pretty prominently in the title, so it's tough to rule that offtopic, IMO.

I guess I could have called them pinkskins.



Really, if you have a problem with the terminology, maybe you should go hunt down all the idiots in the original tweet using the term "white" and let them know.

Man you had to show Cmdr Shran, that was a good character cut short in his arcs prime when Enterprise got shitcanned.  I mean if they would have moved it over to Skinemax it would still be going today.  Upping the sex appeal got it some more attention, but that opening song made the show unappealing to a lot.

Race may be a myth, but we need a shorthand for "that group of people who will be shouted down as non-diverse by leftists if they appear in the same place at the same time" or "that group of people who cannot claim special moral points in the USA for the colour of their skin" so we may as well say "White".