Goodman Games apologizes for being white.

Ratman_tf · December 03, 2023, 05:46:54 PM

Quote from: Venka on December 03, 2023, 03:54:41 PM
Quote from: finarvyn on December 03, 2023, 09:10:56 AM
Their mistake was to put 100% white males in their promotional flyer

That's not a mistake. There's nothing wrong with being white. There's nothing wrong with being a man. There's nothing wrong with working with others- even other white men- to make cool products.

Don't except their shitty morality for a second. Make a poster with all white men, that's fucking fine.

Well, it was a mistake in the aspect of Goodman failing to suck the buttholes of his SJW overlords...

honeydipperdavid · December 03, 2023, 06:55:03 PM

Quote from: Ratman_tf on December 03, 2023, 05:46:54 PM
Quote from: Venka on December 03, 2023, 03:54:41 PM
Quote from: finarvyn on December 03, 2023, 09:10:56 AM
Their mistake was to put 100% white males in their promotional flyer

That's not a mistake. There's nothing wrong with being white. There's nothing wrong with being a man. There's nothing wrong with working with others- even other white men- to make cool products.

Don't except their shitty morality for a second. Make a poster with all white men, that's fucking fine.

Well, it was a mistake in the aspect of Goodman failing to suck the buttholes of his SJW overlords...

The sad thing for Goodman Games is the SJW's hates them, hates their product and would call them Nazi's to their faces. The SJW's don't have spend, they are poor, they are political, and they are unemployed. Disney is finding out quite quickly that the more they get down on their knees and suck off SJW's its not even 25 cents a pop its ZERO cents a pop. Hasbro and Disney are at 50% of their stock value in 5 years, they are doing horrible chasing the Millenial SJW non-existent cash. Goodman allying itself with SJW's is going to put them in the do not buy camp for a lot of their fans.

Jam The MF · December 03, 2023, 07:48:54 PM

I remember buying the DCC Core Rulebook, a long while back; and thinking, "Man, this stuff is awesome!!! Truly Gonzo RPG material!!!". I thought often about buying more, but before I finally did; I started hearing about the SJW influence creeping in, and I kept my money in my pocket.

It's sad, because DCC was a noteworthy milestone RPG; in my opinion. It was a great counter, to the concept of PCs that never died. In DCC, there would be PILES of dead PCs!!!

JeremyR · December 03, 2023, 07:52:32 PM

Personally, I think DCC is overrated trash, the idea that PCs were completely disposable is completely contrary to the early game and the genre sword & sorcery fiction which was largely made up for bigger than life heroes in long running series. Howard didn't even kill off Kull when he replaced him with the more successful Conan). And after Elric got killed off fairly early, Moorcock kept writing more and more Elric novels set before the last.

But it is very ironic given Goodman Games first product was basically about Confederate solider riding dinosaurs (Broncosaurus Rex)

Monero · December 03, 2023, 08:13:04 PM

Thank god I never bought into the DCC line when it was being shilled constantly. What a bozo for bending the knee.

Btw, it's people who look like the ones in the original poster that almost single handedly supported, paid for, and allowed the TTRPG(and geekdom in general) to survive for DECADES. Without the dreaded Cis White Male, nobody even knows what the fuck D&D is in 2023 or most of the cool shit that the Twitter zealots seem dedicated to ruining.

They're cultural carpetbaggers that have infiltrated and infected this amazing hobby. They're Usurpers that need to be Expelled.

dungeonmonkey · December 03, 2023, 09:51:17 PM

Some people are in denial about (or shilling for) Goodman Games at this point.

This incident is hardly the only one. There's BLM-supporting poster, change of pronouns to they/them in the DCC RPG book, and now this absurd apology for being white. As Ian Fleming put it: once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action. Goodman Games is not just kowtowing to the woke, it is part of the woke. It is responsive to woke criticism because wokeness is its credo.

I own a lot of Goodman Games product. Several copies of the DCC RPG rulebook, all the settings, virtually all modules, more dice sets than any one player could justify, and a repeat kickstarter backer. But not another penny more.

Coffeecup · December 04, 2023, 12:21:57 AM

Has anyone considered that Goodman and all the others on the first flyer didn't want to attend and when the complaints started they had the perfect excuse to drop out.

honeydipperdavid · December 04, 2023, 01:27:17 AM

Quote from: Coffeecup on December 04, 2023, 12:21:57 AM
Has anyone considered that Goodman and all the others on the first flyer didn't want to attend and when the complaints started they had the perfect excuse to drop out.

The panel is still going with original members, they didn't drop out. It's likely they added the extra people in. Not sure why Jorhphdan got into the disabled/broken toys panel.

Ratman_tf · December 04, 2023, 01:32:47 AM

Quote from: honeydipperdavid on December 04, 2023, 01:27:17 AM
Quote from: Coffeecup on December 04, 2023, 12:21:57 AM
Has anyone considered that Goodman and all the others on the first flyer didn't want to attend and when the complaints started they had the perfect excuse to drop out.

The panel is still going with original members, they didn't drop out. It's likely they added the extra people in. Not sure why Jorhphdan got into the disabled/broken toys panel.

Looks like they picked out some random crew for their "diverse" qualites to put on the flyer, regardless of whether they were actually going to talk at a panel or not.

GeekyBugle · December 04, 2023, 02:34:24 AM

IT'S GOODMA'AM! YOU SHITLORDS!

Coffeecup · December 04, 2023, 03:16:30 AM

So if the panel didn't change maybe they just put these people on the front but the original panel will still do the talking.

jeff37923 · December 04, 2023, 05:44:40 AM

An alternate view from Clownfish TV......

Cathode Ray · December 04, 2023, 07:12:48 AM

Quote from: Jam The MF on December 03, 2023, 07:48:54 PM
It's sad, because DCC was a noteworthy milestone RPG; in my opinion. It was a great counter, to the concept of PCs that never died. In DCC, there would be PILES of dead PCs!!!

Not a new concept:
The Fantasy Trip (1977)

PulpHerb · December 04, 2023, 09:45:23 AM

Quote from: dungeonmonkey on December 03, 2023, 09:51:17 PM
I own a lot of Goodman Games product. Several copies of the DCC RPG rulebook, all the settings, virtually all modules, more dice sets than any one player could justify, and a repeat kickstarter backer. But not another penny more.

This...I've done all the MA KS, the MCC one, and most recently Dying Earth. Plus several BoH. They might come off the shelf for play again someday (although thoughts of DCC in January are now shelved) but money outside of maybe used here and there? Forget it.

PulpHerb · December 04, 2023, 09:46:35 AM

Quote from: Coffeecup on December 04, 2023, 12:21:57 AM
Has anyone considered that Goodman and all the others on the first flyer didn't want to attend and when the complaints started they had the perfect excuse to drop out.

Given his own company is sponsoring it I doubt for Goodman that is the case.

As for others, why say 'yes' to start?