Weasely fucks.

They replaced all the people in the original promotion material (of which I knew almost all) with non-whites and they/thems that not even their mother knows.

Rest in Pieces Goodman Games you had a good run, from now on if I EVER really, really need any of their shit I'll get it free or not at all.

I'd like to apologize for all the money I've spend on Goodman Games, especially their Kickstarters.

But, to help them meet their new DIE quotas I won't bother unpacking my books after next week's move until I'm ready to start selling things.

For the new pic, Jorphan is the only one with any merit, the rest are grifting of what's between their legs and genital hole preference.  No one buys their content because of them, they buy content from their publisher due to their name and when they get shit from said publisher they don't buy anything from them again.

I knew Goodman Games was headed this way when I saw their BLM worship back in 2020.  That cringing, pathetic "apology" made my gorge rise.

Their products are increasingly not "good", and their boss is most definitely not a "man" anymore. Maybe they ought to rename themselves just "Games".


"A coward dies a thousand times before his death, but the valiant taste of death but once."

Greetings!

Ahh, yes. Goodman Games has finally swallowed the Woke Jello. DEEP.

Pathetic. How sad. Oh well. Let them choke. Let them burn.

GIVE THEM NOTHING.

LET FIRE AND WRATH BE THEIR PORTION.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

A few semi-random thoughts on this:

(1) I've been playing RPGs for nearly five decades and I will say that in my experience a large percentage of players are white males. Over the decades I would guess around half white males, a third female, a sixth other. Early on, in the 1970's, more white males. Today the percentages have shifted somewhat. I've encountered a lot of non-white gamers and non-male gamers as well. In fact, in one of my gaming groups I am the only straight white male at the table.

(2) Looking at the history of the game, from the 1970's to today, like it or not most of the successful RPG writers and designers are white males. (I'm guessing that this is also true for the book industry, movie industry, comic book industry, and quite a few other places one might look.) Argue the reasons for this all you like, but most of the successes fit a narrow demographic of humans. With that in mind, if you want to listen to presentations from successful game designers there will be a disproportional number of presenters from that narrow demographic. Margaret Weiss is an exception. Kelsey Dionne seems to be another. It's hard to come up with a list of successes who aren't white males.

(3) I hate to throw Goodman Games under the bus for this. They are a business and they want to make games and they want to make money. Their mistake was to put 100% white males in their promotional flyer, and in their defense they probably put their most accomplished designers on the top billing. Honestly, if they had put half white males and the other half a blend of other genders and ethnicities probably no one would have noticed. They owned up to their mistake and tried to correct, but instead went too far in the other direction. It's not like they are firing all of their experienced and successful writers and replacing them with a bunch of no-names with no writing credits, but they did replace pictures of those writers on the flyer with a bunch of no-names. The folks at Goodman Games are good people and I think they are trying hard to appeal to all demographics of gamers, not just the woke ones.

Just my two cents.

So are they now Wokeman Games , Goodwoke Games, or GoodXir Games.  Asking for future tagging.

Quote from: finarvyn on December 03, 2023, 09:10:56 AM

(3) I hate to throw Goodman Games under the bus for this. They are a business and they want to make games and they want to make money. Their mistake was to put 100% white males in their promotional flyer, and in their defense they probably put their most accomplished designers on the top billing. Honestly, if they had put half white males and the other half a blend of other genders and ethnicities probably no one would have noticed. They owned up to their mistake and tried to correct, but instead went too far in the other direction. It's not like they are firing all of their experienced and successful writers and replacing them with a bunch of no-names with no writing credits, but they did replace pictures of those writers on the flyer with a bunch of no-names. The folks at Goodman Games are good people and I think they are trying hard to appeal to all demographics of gamers, not just the woke ones.

Just my two cents.

They didn't make a 'mistake' by putting their most well known and accomplished designers in their promo. It is called good business. Back when Michael Jordan got his own line of shoes why didn't other players all throw a tantrum and demand the same? Because they knew Jordan earned the right through his own skills. No one should be made to feel ashamed of achieving something that they have a right to be proud of no matter what they look like or who they like to sleep with. Apologizing for success in your field is pure bullshit and there isn't a way to spin it that makes it anything different.

RIP cowardly Goodman Games

Quote from: finarvyn on December 03, 2023, 09:10:56 AM
A few semi-random thoughts on this:

(1) I've been playing RPGs for nearly five decades and I will say that in my experience a large percentage of players are white males. Over the decades I would guess around half white males, a third female, a sixth other. Early on, in the 1970's, more white males. Today the percentages have shifted somewhat. I've encountered a lot of non-white gamers and non-male gamers as well. In fact, in one of my gaming groups I am the only straight white male at the table.

(2) Looking at the history of the game, from the 1970's to today, like it or not most of the successful RPG writers and designers are white males. (I'm guessing that this is also true for the book industry, movie industry, comic book industry, and quite a few other places one might look.) Argue the reasons for this all you like, but most of the successes fit a narrow demographic of humans. With that in mind, if you want to listen to presentations from successful game designers there will be a disproportional number of presenters from that narrow demographic. Margaret Weiss is an exception. Kelsey Dionne seems to be another. It's hard to come up with a list of successes who aren't white males.

(3) I hate to throw Goodman Games under the bus for this. They are a business and they want to make games and they want to make money. Their mistake was to put 100% white males in their promotional flyer, and in their defense they probably put their most accomplished designers on the top billing. Honestly, if they had put half white males and the other half a blend of other genders and ethnicities probably no one would have noticed. They owned up to their mistake and tried to correct, but instead went too far in the other direction. It's not like they are firing all of their experienced and successful writers and replacing them with a bunch of no-names with no writing credits, but they did replace pictures of those writers on the flyer with a bunch of no-names. The folks at Goodman Games are good people and I think they are trying hard to appeal to all demographics of gamers, not just the woke ones.

Just my two cents.

So when people bitch about how there are "too many Jews" in the news media, Hollywood, and banking industries, they have a valid point.  Not every single person in those industries is a Jew, but the most of the really successful ones are, or at least they are represented way out of proportion to their actual numbers in society.  These industries should appeal to Gentiles more by shoving these successful Jews into the background and spotlighting more Gentiles, even if said Gentiles are less talented/successful/ influential, because that's only good business.  Meritocracy is a bad thing; what counts is ethnic representation.

Well, if that's your view, you're welcome to it.  I always figured that people like that were just envious little pricks who were jealous of other people's intelligence and hard work, and wanted an equal share of the pie without doing anything to earn it.

This is all so transparently self-serving.  Activists are forever demanding that more jobs and money be given to people like them.  Those white guys have to go to make room for more queer BIPOC people or whatever which, not at all coincidentally, is just what the person making this demand is.

Quote from: yosemitemike on December 03, 2023, 11:17:59 AM
This is all so transparently self-serving.  Activists are forever demanding that more jobs and money be given to people like them.  Those white guys have to go to make room for more queer BIPOC people or whatever which, not at all coincidentally, is just what the person making this demand is.

Moreover, it isn't like the the creative rpg community is gatekept and closed to certain people. If you want to be known for something then DO something worth being known for. I'm sure if Goodman put up picks of a bunch of random white guys that haven't produced much of anything it wouldn't be just the minority folks saying WTF? Come to think of it, I'm a random white guy why in the hell didn't they feature ME at thing? Oh thats right, I'm just a nobody.

Quote from: Exploderwizard on December 03, 2023, 10:10:16 AM

Quote from: finarvyn on December 03, 2023, 09:10:56 AM

(3) I hate to throw Goodman Games under the bus for this. They are a business and they want to make games and they want to make money. Their mistake was to put 100% white males in their promotional flyer, and in their defense they probably put their most accomplished designers on the top billing. Honestly, if they had put half white males and the other half a blend of other genders and ethnicities probably no one would have noticed. They owned up to their mistake and tried to correct, but instead went too far in the other direction. It's not like they are firing all of their experienced and successful writers and replacing them with a bunch of no-names with no writing credits, but they did replace pictures of those writers on the flyer with a bunch of no-names. The folks at Goodman Games are good people and I think they are trying hard to appeal to all demographics of gamers, not just the woke ones.

Just my two cents.

They didn't make a 'mistake' by putting their most well known and accomplished designers in their promo. It is called good business. Back when Michael Jordan got his own line of shoes why didn't other players all throw a tantrum and demand the same? Because they knew Jordan earned the right through his own skills. No one should be made to feel ashamed of achieving something that they have a right to be proud of no matter what they look like or who they like to sleep with. Apologizing for success in your field is pure bullshit and there isn't a way to spin it that makes it anything different.

RIP cowardly Goodman Games

I'm affraid you're wrong, Goodma'am decided to jump in bed with the woke cult a while back, ergo a promotional material with zero they/thems in combat wheelchairs some mental disability and who're not white IS a mistake.

Now, if we were talking about a company that didn't commit the first mistake (jumping in bed with the lunatics) then you'd be correct, featuring the most accomplished X in your promotional material is the way to go regardles of anything else.

Quote from: finarvyn on December 03, 2023, 09:10:56 AM
Their mistake was to put 100% white males in their promotional flyer

That's not a mistake.  There's nothing wrong with being white.  There's nothing wrong with being a man.  There's nothing wrong with working with others- even other white men- to make cool products.

Don't except their shitty morality for a second.  Make a poster with all white men, that's fucking fine.