Quote from: jhkim;1041669This is the sort of language I associate with anti-free-speech arguments.  The opposition's words are "poison" that will "infest" others if they're allowed to talk. The implied conclusion is that they have to be silenced to prevent this infestation.

I disagree. And in particular, I don't think one can deploy this kind of argument - and simultaneously have a problem with opponents who do the same.

This is exactly what you advocate on this very forum. You've argued exactly the "poisoning" and "infesting" of this site when some random poster says something you disagree with. Whether it was the "site's becoming a right-wing racist fest" threads or the more recent "representation" thread(s) you continuously use one poster's words to wack on others who don't line up with your views. You've made it pretty clear unless there is serious repudiation of some random poster's words, others must then agree with them.

Quote from: jhkim;1041733To clarify:  I don't go to any game cons based on the politics of the producers. I don't consider RPGs to be an important channel for politics, and I'm not going to boycott a convention over mainstream political expression of the creators. I don't consider inviting a guest of honor to be silencing opposing points of view, nor do I think there is some need for guests of honor to be representative of anything in particular.

So what one shows is not neccesarily being exclusionary? Oh, except
 

QuoteGiven *my* choice, I wouldn't invite either Correia or Sarkeesian, but instead people who are important for tabletop games based on their credentials. But I'm also unlikely to boycott based on their guest of honor choices.

I'm sure, though, if only people had some way of knowing that there were these non-RPG-credentialed guests of honor at GenCon, they would have been outraged and complained just as much as they are over Sarkeesian. :rolleyes:

As far as I know, Larry Correia also has done nothing for the tabletop games industry. It seems to me that he has roughly as much relevance as reality TV stars or wrestlers who happen to be game players.

Sure, sure you'd never post your opposition to a con that invite a dip-shit like R. Spencer. I am sure you'd go on your merry way as it would be irrelevant. :rolleyes:

Quote from: RPGPundit;1041683This is also disingenuous. I don't think Omega was suggesting she should be 'silenced', nor would she need to be silenced. Her feminist cancer can be countered with words. The problem is that those words ARE NOT ALLOWED at Gencon.

Of course he is. He just spent many post on representation in RPGs making the case that who is represented and who isn't (based on sexual orientation or identity) tells you if the game is inclusive or not. Odd that it applies, and is important, at the game table but not a game show/con.

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Quote from: jhkim;1041737The official link on that post is broken. Did anything happen with that?

   In the works, with Correia running a game of it at GenCon (which he's attending on his own).

  And it's the second Monster Hunters International RPG--the first was HERO System-based and is still available here and at other locations.

Anita Sarkeesian will be hosting a Q/A at GenCon. What could she possibly have done to warrant a Q/A in an industry she has *zero* to do with. And her last foray into gaming - videogames - shows from her mouth that she herself is not a gamer and has made a career of demonizing gamers. Her last Q/A she attacked members of the audience (her detractors - but they were just sitting there).

Sorry - this is ridiculous. More politics in gaming. I support Sarkeesian to shill her dumb ideas... to me this isn't really about her as much as it's about GenCon virtue signalling to non-gamers that this is what they want representing them. Good luck with that move... again, this road has been hoed by Marvel, Lucasfilm, and others with similar results.

Ideologues putting their ideas ahead of their craft tend not to work.

Quote from: Doc Sammy;1041537If SJW's are the new Religious Right, then Anita Sarkeesian is the new Jack Chick.

The only difference is that Jack Chick was funny and entertaining, if in an ironic sort of way.

SJW's are called Democrats. See Leftist religions.

Quote from: jhkim;1041737The official link on that post is broken. Did anything happen with that?

The SW version of MHI is still in production.

I just wanted to point out that you are dismissing someone out of hand who is a gamer, is involved in new game development and runs games at conventions.
The fact that this person is also a successful author makes them a viable candidate for Guest of Honor invitations to gaming conventions.

Of course his politics don't match yours, just the 'Free Speech' thing.
Oh, and Whitney Strix Beltrán probably doesn't have a hate-on for you.

Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;1041760SJW's are called Democrats. See Leftist religions.

Which is why I'm starting the Cowboy movement to take back the Democratic Party, make it the party of the working class again and not the party of the SJW coastal elites.

Quote from: tenbones;1041758Anita Sarkeesian will be hosting a Q/A at GenCon.

Thoughts on segment-based initiative in 1E?

Quote from: tenbones;1041758to me this isn't really about her as much as it's about GenCon virtue signalling to non-gamers that this is what they want representing them..

Or one or two people suggested it and nobody else cared.

GenCon is a 40,000 person con with a sizeable staff.  Never underestimate the power of "not my department."  I'd bet a nickel Peter Adkinson doesn't even know who she is.

Quote from: Doc Sammy;1041768Which is why I'm starting the Cowboy movement to take back the Democratic Party, make it the party of the working class again and not the party of the SJW coastal elites.

And when your outreach extends past two or three online gaming forums, wake me up.

See also "slacktivism."

Quote from: Chainsaw;1041771Thoughts on segment-based initiative in 1E?

Followed by a Q&A on proposed NMRA standards for TTn3.

Quote from: AsenRG;1041719So, do we expect an alternative CowboyCon next:D?

Only if I can wear assless chaps!

Quote from: Rhedyn;1041740I barely understand the point of going to cons.

Local cons are worth supporting and can be tremendous fun. The big value of cons is playing new games with new people.

We've had threads in the past about cons and I've given breakdowns on the pros/cons and why I support going to them (especially small ones).

Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;1041760SJW's are called Democrats. See Leftist religions.

I disagree. SJWs are a small and extreme faction, but unfortunately loud and successful online which exaggerates their actual numbers.

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Honestly, my problem with Sarkeesian has more to do with the fact that she is fairly sex-negative, such as being Anti-Slutwalk, or the fact that she is kind of anti-violence in media period (such as her opinion of Mad Max: Fury Road), and her general opinion that a woman who is strong in traditionally male ways is damaging is kind of just you know, fuck that.

I think critique of video games, and tabletop games as well from the perspective of its depiction of women and minorities is a good thing, I just think she is also pretty bad at it. She tends to use examples that don't actually support what she is saying if you know the context from which they are pulled for instance. Her work is very very amateur.

Quote from: Chainsaw;1041771Thoughts on segment-based initiative in 1E?

It is the best.  Next question?