Look I am old school as they come, but it is about time Mr. Mentzer was put out to pasture. He has a really poor temperament and is sort of not a nice guyany more, particularly when it comes to interacting with women. Luke Gygax just made the announcement - https://garycon.com/blog/2019/02/18/harbinger-unheeded/?fbclid=IwAR0n55y-UB_0qaz1GY5jIGT766K5nKpXEZqx2fsmjrHsUYSSHujLorv6-bg

What did he do this time to get him banned from the con?

Beyond the weird stuff with Jessica Price [who is a former colleague of mine] he's been the epitome of what happens when men grow old and useless. His blackmail bullshit on the Dragonsfoot forum and the fall-out from his Kickstarter along was enough to give alot of people pause. His entire team abandoned him for Empyrea but I am sure that was just the straw that broke the camels back. His Facebook reads like a giant dumpster fire and has scrubbed many of his old posts where former colleagues and friends have told him to relax https://www.facebook.com/frank.mentzer

He is also firmly anti OSR but that is mostly a personal quibble that pales in comparison to his actions above.

Quote from: Grognard101;1075612Look I am old school as they come, but it is about time Mr. Mentzer was put out to pasture. He has a really poor temperament and is sort of not a nice guyany more, particularly when it comes to interacting with women. Luke Gygax just made the announcement - https://garycon.com/blog/2019/02/18/harbinger-unheeded/?fbclid=IwAR0n55y-UB_0qaz1GY5jIGT766K5nKpXEZqx2fsmjrHsUYSSHujLorv6-bg

Many people believe his red box rule set is one of the best versions in the history of D&D.  He may very well be a total ass, but his name will live on for a long time.  I'm very curious about the crew of old grognards he hangs with.  I bet they can tell some stories....

Red box still one of my favorite versions of D&D but damn if the man isnt a not-so-good human being.

Quote from: Grognard101;1075618Red box still one of my favorite versions of D&D but damn if the man isnt a not-so-good human being.

Greetings!

I've read Frank's exchanges with Price. Price is an SJW nutjob. Having said that, Mentzer seems to also be socially retarded. Why is a man in his 60's for God's sake even involving himself in stupid conversations on Facebook and Twitter with women half his age? Why is he acting like a jackass to other people? I just do not understand why this guy, an old school game developer, senior gaming statesman, assumed to be married--why does he fail to enjoy a pleasant, gracious time in dignified semi-retirement? It's like Mentzer feels some obsessive need to vault himself into the public square, eager to court drama and controversy at every turn.

I just don't understand some of these people who, heretofore, have built up a great reputation and legacy, and yet, seem all too eager to piss all over it and have so much of what they have spent decades developing, erode and vanish virtually overnight. I can only imagine what his wife and family must be saying to him. Wow, you know?

It's still sad to see him declared persona non grata at such an event as prestigious as GaryCon. How embarassing, you know?

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

I've said elsewhere why I have problems with Mentzer.  Well, now he'll reap what he's sown.

Quote from: thedungeondelver;1075620I've said elsewhere why I have problems with Mentzer.  Well, now he'll reap what he's sown.

Greetings!

Hey Dungeon! What kind of problems? I'm curious what problems you have with Mentzer. I haven't followed Mentzer scandals or drama closely, so I'm in the dark about him.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Quote from: Grognard101;1075612Look I am old school as they come, but it is about time Mr. Mentzer was put out to pasture. He has a really poor temperament and is sort of not a nice guyany more, particularly when it comes to interacting with women. Luke Gygax just made the announcement - https://garycon.com/blog/2019/02/18/harbinger-unheeded/?fbclid=IwAR0n55y-UB_0qaz1GY5jIGT766K5nKpXEZqx2fsmjrHsUYSSHujLorv6-bg

D&D Democrats will still worship him though. Short-term memories.

I don't think Mentzer is married; could be wrong. I would have thought Price would have mentioned it if he was.

I... I think Mentzer has been a massive jerk, but still he should not have been un-personed. I felt strongly enough to post my views to Garycon's Facebook, so I expect to be torn to shreds by the SJWs active there. :\

Frank's pissed off a ton of people, a lot more than just Price.  However, Luke used language like "toxic" and "safe space" to feed the SJWs even if that wasn't the main reason.

Quote from: CRKrueger;1075635Frank's pissed off a ton of people, a lot more than just Price.  

His behaviour on Dragonsfoot was far worse, certainly. He deserved the ban he got there.

Quote from: Grognard101;1075612Look I am old school as they come, but it is about time Mr. Mentzer was put out to pasture. He has a really poor temperament and is sort of not a nice guyany more, particularly when it comes to interacting with women. Luke Gygax just made the announcement - https://garycon.com/blog/2019/02/18/harbinger-unheeded/?fbclid=IwAR0n55y-UB_0qaz1GY5jIGT766K5nKpXEZqx2fsmjrHsUYSSHujLorv6-bg

From the statement:

we must ensure that everyone feels welcome, safe, and believes that they are a valued member of our community regardless of their gender, race, religion, sexual orientation, or what edition that they play

This makes it sounds as if Mentzer was harrassing people on the basis of their gender, race, religion, sexual orientation, or what edition that they play - which is false, libellous, and really bad IMO. He has been a big jerk/bully to people completely irrespective of any of those factors!

Why does almost every niche of this industry bow down and give in to the special snowflakes?  They must buy a lot of RPG products?  If not, then it doesn't make ANY sense at all.

Just as the Zak Smith/Daniel Fox saga, all of this seems like literal soap opera-level to me. Why should anyone care what any of these people do in their private lives unless you happen to know them closely?