Quote from: Aos;442192Traveller is a terrible example.
Everyone I knew bitched about the lack of blasters. Everyone.

I'd run Stars Without Number anyway. Distortion Cannons and Plasma Projectors FTW!

Quote from: Aos;442192Traveller is a terrible example.
Everyone I knew bitched about the lack of blasters. Everyone.

Then they were SOBs that bitched too much.

 TRAVELLER had better guns like Plasma Gun/Man Portable weapons and Laser rifles - a beam weapon is just a beam weapon.

Sounds like you played with a bunch of whiners.

- Ed C.

Quote from: Koltar;442201Then they were SOBs that bitched too much.

Yeah. Failure at imagination and all that.

I made the mistake of starting on page one.

From Gandalf casting spells, to people complaining about blasters, or the lack thereof.

Dayum, what a meanderation.

Why on Earth was this necro'd?

*yawn*

Quote from: Aos;442192Traveller is a terrible example.
Everyone I knew bitched about the lack of blasters. Everyone.

Blasters? What about lightsabers?

Quote from: Doltar;442201Then they were SOBs that bitched too much.

 TRAVELLER had better guns like Plasma Gun/Man Portable weapons and Laser rifles - a bean weapon is just a beam weapon.

Sounds like you played with a bunch of whiners.

- Ed C.

Foreheadfuck you, cosplay.
We played with the original 3 LBB's. There was only a lazer gun and it required a power pack. We were 13-14 years old.

Quote from: Elfdart;442210Blasters? What about lightsabers?

Luke carried a lightsaber, man; were were all about Solo.

Quote from: Benoist;442199I'd run Stars Without Number anyway. Distortion Cannons and Plasma Projectors FTW!

Today, I'd just house rule something in. My friends at the time were uncomfortable with deliberate houseruling, although we did it without realizing it all the time.
I know another guy who although really, really smart, was completely turned off by the navigation math (he was in 7th grade at the time) and ditched the game over it as well.

Quote from: Aos;442217Today, I'd just house rule something in. My friends at the time were uncomfortable with deliberate houseruling, although we did it without realizing it all the time.
I know another guy who although really, really smart, was completely turned off by the navigation math (he was in 7th grade at the time) and ditched the game over it as well.

Traveller never really made it in France. It just wasn't part of my role playing landscape when I was a kid. Star Wars d6, however, was HUGELY popular. We played the hell out of it. One of the first RPG I really played (as opposed to run) regularly after I started introducing people to RPGs in school (the other was Rolemaster. Yes. At 12 years old we played Rolemaster). So there was no trouble getting our fix in terms of blasters and lightsabers, if you see what I mean.

Quote from: Aos;442213Foreheadfuck you, cosplay.
We played with the original 3 LBB's. There was only a lazer gun and it required a power pack. We were 13-14 years old.

Too cheap to spring for LBB 4:MERCENARY and LBB 5: HIGH GUARD back then?

 Or did no one love you enough to give them to you as a Birthday or Holiday presents?


Zheesh, you are a whiner.


- Ed C.

Quote from: Benoist;442225Traveller never really made it in France. It just wasn't part of my role playing landscape when I was a kid. Star Wars d6, however, was HUGELY popular. We played the hell out of it. One of the first RPG I really played (as opposed to run) regularly after I started introducing people to RPGs in school (the other was Rolemaster. Yes. At 12 years old we played Rolemaster). So there was no trouble getting our fix in terms of blasters and lightsabers, if you see what I mean.

We switched to Space Opera after a year or two. We played in a cobbled together Star Wars Universe (this was before D6).
Space Opera was a shit game, but it had everything you needed in the original box. This brings me to another point; I lived in a small town. We had to travel like 30 miles to the nearest gaming store.  If it wasn't AD&D and it wasn't in the core book, we would almost certainly never see it, much less buy it or make use of it. Prior to the early 90's, I think I only bought two supplements: HPL's Dreamlands for CoC and the Ringworld Companion- but I was really in to HPL and Niven's known space, so i tracked these fuckers down while on a trip to the big city. So you know Traveller might have had a bunch of stuff in the supps but I never laid eyes on it.

Quote from: Koltar;442228Too cheap to spring for LBB 4:MERCENARY and LBB 5: HIGH GUARD back then?

 Or did no one love you enough to give them to you as a Birthday or Holiday presents?


Zheesh, you are a whiner.


- Ed C.

Ed, I lived in a small town as I stated in the post above. Furthermore, you are correct: nobody loved me enough to buy me those books, as I was raised by impoverished, abusive and neglectful drunks; times were good when I had enough to eat. Thank you for asking.

I have, however, amidst all my whining and despite some pretty serious disadvantages, managed to live an extraordinary life full of laughter, mystery, joy and, especially, achievement.

I wont bother to relate my opinion of you, as I cant seem to find a thesaurus with scope adequate enough for the task.

Cheers.

My group came to Trav from a different direction, that being Niven, Asimov, Cherryh books and movies like Outland and Logan's Run and 2001: A Space Odyssey and Alien. Throw in a bit of Blade Runner later on and that's my Trav, so mentioning it is perfectly apropos for me.

slightly related:
http://1d8.blogspot.com/2011/02/evolution-of-fighter-in-d.html

Good post, and I found his analysis interesting; it seems sound but i didn't check the math.

Quote from: J Arcane;229639You've got it all wrong.  Gandalf was, lore speaking, a demi-god.  He was definitely powerful enough.

Where he tended to bullshit was in fact making himself seem weaker than he really was.  

It's a sort of religious thing, really, the way he works.  He could do more, but that would interfere too much, kinda like God committing too many miracles would destroy faith, Gandalf letting go too much of his power in front of the normies would lead them to not rely enough on their own strength instead.

I call bullshit on this. If Gandalf had anything as potent as a lightning bolt, fireball or even a couple of sleep spells, his party could have absolutely smoked the goblins in Moria instead of fighting the donnybrook they had in Balin's tomb.

QuoteHe's a manipulative bastard, really.  Even that whole showy transformation to the White Wizard is basically a way of him just using more of the power he already had, but having a "story excuse" to get away with it and still not spook the locals.

If I were a Tolkien/Gandalf fanboy (and I'm not, thank goodness!) I'd prefer that Gandalf was just weak compared to other spellcasters in fiction. The idea that he was holding back because... well, because makes him seem like a douche nozzle.