Quote from: S'mon;956945Dragonsfoot is good. SJWs and anti-SJWs both get shut down. Occasionally they let clever SJWs who can posit a good frame (as to why their particular bit of SJWing is a legitimate topic) run on for a bit, but mostly they catch it fast.

Man, now that I think about it, you're dead on. I don't jump on DF as often as I used to, but in the time I did, I never caught a whiff of the political anywhere. It's pretty much what it says it is -- a site devoted to older systems (and their retroclones and such).

Quote from: cranebump;956985Man, now that I think about it, you're dead on. I don't jump on DF as often as I used to, but in the time I did, I never caught a whiff of the political anywhere. It's pretty much what it says it is -- a site devoted to older systems (and their retroclones and such).

Does it have much of a posting base for games besides D&D?

Quote from: Tristram Evans;956999Does it have much of a posting base for games besides D&D?

The 'Other Games' forum is fairly active and covers non-D&D as well as modern D&D - http://www.dragonsfoot.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=20 - and I've NEVER seen any political/SJW stuff there.

Quote from: S'mon;957024The 'Other Games' forum is fairly active and covers non-D&D as well as modern D&D - http://www.dragonsfoot.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=20 - and I've NEVER seen any political/SJW stuff there.

I'll check it out. I tried Circus Maximus for a bit, but it didn't take.

Quote from: Ratman_tf;956599Last time I played Dark Sun at my local gaming pub, the table next to us was chatting about polititcs. I had to intentionally tune them out in order to enjoy my game...

I live in the Pacific Northwest, and while I will grant you that it's usually not a problem, there is this kind of general tone underlying most of my interactions at work and in the public.

Wait, so you worry about what strangers in a table next to you in a pub jaw on about? No wonder you're in such a state of agitation.

And as for work, any self-respecting manager tells employees to keep conversations on religion, politics and sex out of the workplace. Of course you can't help what they may babble on about outside of your presence...

Quote from: S'mon;957024The 'Other Games' forum is fairly active and covers non-D&D as well as modern D&D - http://www.dragonsfoot.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=20 - and I've NEVER seen any political/SJW stuff there.

Hmm, interesting. I'll check it out too.

Quote from: Voros;957031And as for work, any self-respecting manager tells employees to keep conversations on religion, politics and sex out of the workplace. Of course you can't help what they may babble on about outside of your presence...

Yes, we absolutely have that rule in my office. But if they actually wanted to enforce it, they'd need to fire about three quarters of the work force.

Enworld, while not usually a grand font of wisdom, is pretty apolitical (in the gaming forums, I have no idea about their general topic section). Giants in the Playground is pretty heavily skewed towards 3e and 5e D&D, so not much use to many here, but also has no clear political leanings. Among non-general and non-D&D sites, both Citizens of the Imperium (for Traveller) and the Hero System forums don't get into politics.

Quote from: Willie the Duck;957069Enworld, while not usually a grand font of wisdom, is pretty apolitical (in the gaming forums, I have no idea about their general topic section). Giants in the Playground is pretty heavily skewed towards 3e and 5e D&D, so not much use to many here, but also has no clear political leanings. Among non-general and non-D&D sites, both Citizens of the Imperium (for Traveller) and the Hero System forums don't get into politics.

Enw was apolitical, then they decided that stopping sjw feminist activism was "incredibly offensive to women". Weirdly they maintain the no-politics stance in other areas of sjw activity such as race.

But the density of sjw stuff is far less than rpg.net and unless they are running a "season of sexism" it  can usually be avoided.

Quote from: Voros;957031Wait, so you worry about what strangers in a table next to you in a pub jaw on about? No wonder you're in such a state of agitation.

What do I have your permission to worry about then?
I personally have a no-politics and no controversial topics policy at my gaming table. I don't slap people in the face with it, I just try to steer table discussion towards the game when such topics do come up. I don't have control over other tables though. I wouldn't call it agitation. Mostly annoyance.

QuoteAnd as for work, any self-respecting manager tells employees to keep conversations on religion, politics and sex out of the workplace. Of course you can't help what they may babble on about outside of your presence...

And so we do for the most part. I'm not going to get into specifics, but there are times when we are at work, but the situation becomes less "formal" and that's when the topics usually come up. As I said before, so far it's mostly annoyance.

My point is, it's out there in "meatspace".

Quote from: Armchair Gamer;956186"Thursday 1:00 PM – Gaming Saves the World
How do we translate our experiences as gamers into productive expression, activism & persuasion? Join us as we look at the map, hash out the tactics, & min-max our way out of the darkest timeline."

Is it just me, or does this sound like a bad idea?

Sounds sarcastic to me.

Quote from: Ratman_tf;956282I would rather eat a light bulb.

Coincidentally enough the world record holder is a personal friend of mine.

And yes, you are right.

Quote from: Ratman_tf;957112What do I have your permission to worry about then?


My point is, it's out there in "meatspace".

A) Worrying about what strangers at another table as discussing is OTT, sorry for pointing out the obvious.

B) No kidding. It is just much less likely to be in-your-face, as rude and dogmatic as what you encounter on the net. Do you think the posters here would be as full of nerdragemacho if we were actually face-to-face?

Quote from: Willie the Duck;957069Giants in the Playground is pretty heavily skewed towards 3e and 5e D&D, so not much use to many here, but also has no clear political leanings.

Mmmmm, it's better than some places to be sure, but the frequency of Let's-All-Get-Outraged style thread topics isn't reassuring. And I don't trust the guy in charge since he became a born-again feminist. Look, it's like I said on the last page. You've gotten it through your head that treating "Woman" as one of a large number of possible character classes that you can apply humerous stereotypes to is not a great thing to do? You want to be more equal and inclusive now? That's great! That's awesome! Sure, you took your sweet time getting there, but still, good on you! Now, if you could just stop lording it over those of us who had reached that point by the time we were twenty, that'd be great. Repentant sinners have no business setting themselves up as prophets preaching to the rest of us of how awful we are - yet invariably that seems to be what they do. :mad:

/rant

Quote from: Voros;957206Do you think the posters here would be as full of nerdragemacho if we were actually face-to-face?

Definitely not, but on the other hand, real life doesn't have a block function or the option of clicking on a different bookmark and disappearing from an annoying discussion instantly. And some people really are barrels of nerdragemacho even when face to face - and they tend to be the ones with the loudest and most annoying voices, too!

Quote from: Voros;957206A) Worrying about what strangers at another table as discussing is OTT, sorry for pointing out the obvious.

B) No kidding. It is just much less likely to be in-your-face, as rude and dogmatic as what you encounter on the net. Do you think the posters here would be as full of nerdragemacho if we were actually face-to-face?

We probably wouldn't be, if in real life you do your "I'm too cool for whatever you want to talk about, even though I apparently want to talk about it too" act you shit all over every thread here where someone says something you don't like.

Some of the regulars here sure are a sensitive bunch of internet tough guys.

And in terms of shitting all over a thread because someone says something you don't like, talk about living in a glass house and throwing stones. How many of your posts are of the 'you don't know shit about RPGs!' variety. The torrent of negativity from the usual suspects on the simplest threads would be hilarious if it wasn't so tiresome and predictable.

Quote from: Baeraad;957214Mmmmm, it's better than some places to be sure, but the frequency of Let's-All-Get-Outraged style thread topics isn't reassuring...Now, if you could just stop lording it over those of us who had reached that point by the time we were twenty, that'd be great...

...And some people really are barrels of nerdragemacho even when face to face - and they tend to be the ones with the loudest and most annoying voices, too!

We have a few too many Let's-All-Get-Outraged style threads here, just with a different political bent, in fact I'd say the OP qualifies as exactly that. But at least most of it is kept in the Pundit's forum.

I very much agree on the second point regarding those who seem to have just discovered that sexism, misogyny, racism or classism exists as adults and assume that everyone else is as clueless as they use to be.

Thankfully I haven't encountered a nerdragemacho specimen as you describe in real life, I would wonder how they could get through life without being punched out.