QuoteOkay, that's a bit of bullshit right there. Unhelig went off GW and even anti GW for a whole month and a half once.  I wish I'd bookmarked the damn thing. I think he's right to be pissed off at people with nothing better to do than thread crap on fan discussions.

someone started a thread almost exactly like this one, only reporting an actual Games Workshop press release about their financial difficulties, and 'lig and Doghooter spent the entire fucking thing crowing about how the thread shouldn't be allowed in Other Games.  They eventually got it locked if I recall correctly.

QuoteI think he's right to be pissed off at people with nothing better to do than thread crap on fan discussions.

Yeah, this is the thing.

I just like the damn toys. You will be far happier if you make your peace with Games Workshop being Games Workshop - no, they don't care about you, and frankly caring about you would be bad for their business.

Now, can you just shut the fuck up and let people who haven't burned out yet enjoy it?











Also - I can't find my IPod. Where the fuck is my IPod. It is YOUR FAULT I can't find my IPod.

errr...ipod...what ipod?...this ipod?...no no no...this is my ipod...they just look alike...they all look alike really...spent all my money on games workshop and couldn't afford one?  Yeah...okay you got me...keep your damn ipod...it's the wrong size to use as a movement tray anyhow...I was just checking...honest...fricken' lance formation...grumble...grumble...grumble...

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QuoteTotal size of worldwide tabletop RPG business in 2006:

~$80-$100 million (retail sales)

Total revenue generated by Games Workshop in 2006:

~$237 million (that's GAW revenue, not retail, but part of their revenue is at full retail. Actual retail sales figure is probably about $350 million)

Games Workshop is the largest and most successful publisher in hobby gaming, except in outlier years when a Pokemon or Yu-Gi-Oh! temporarily inflates the figures of Wizards of the Coast or Upper Deck.

When they make their next report, we anticipate that they'll indicate 2007 revenues declined to around $210 million, still about twice the size of Wizards of the Coast.

GAW has, over the past 20 years, been the best managed company in hobby gaming, showing incremental year-over-year growth whilst its competition has engaged in a series of roller-coaster business cycles (and an entire category, tabletop RPGs, has melted down).

GAW has licenses in place for both Warhammer Fantasy and Warhammer 40K for MMORPGs with credible publishers which mean they'll get most of the benefits with none of the risks (the estimated investment in the two games by EA and THQ exceeds $100 million).

Its very hard to argue that GW has made any significant errors in its business.

They're having problems now, but those problems are far from unfixable.

Ryan
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Or, in short -

Dear armchair pundit.

You don't know shit, and you are talking crap. STFU. Noob.

(I mean, he may be Ryan Dancey, but he bought TSR. What have you done recently?)

Quote from: J ArcaneWell, I see that Eric has gracefully taken the mantle of being our resident unheilig.

Christ, the fact that I know who you're talkin' about and that I've never actually participated in any discussions with him, tells me I've been lurking around message boards, too damn much.

Regards,
Davd R

Quote from: David RChrist, the fact that I know who you're talkin' about and that I've never actually participated in any discussions with him, tells me I've been lurking around message boards, too damn much.

Regards,
Davd R

Well, you can take comfort in the fact that unheilig's monstrous ego, bully tactics, and tendency to form little cults around him makes it rather hard NOT to notice him.

uhm yeah, 'cause that really raises the level of discussion and makes you right about every thing.

I don't always agree with Unhelig or his attitude but honestly, any discussion of who started crapping on who first at rpg.net seems to be a very pointless topic.

We get it, you don't like Unhelig, fine.  Now talk about something we actually care about.

Quote from: David Johansenuhm yeah, 'cause that really raises the level of discussion and makes you right about every thing.

I don't always agree with Unhelig or his attitude but honestly, any discussion of who started crapping on who first at rpg.net seems to be a very pointless topic.

We get it, you don't like Unhelig, fine.  Now talk about something we actually care about.

Well, this thread was doomed to be dull as dishwater the moment Eric showed up.  I really didn't care much to hear the same "LALALALALA! I CAN'T HEAR YOU!" I got so tired of on RPGnet.  I brought up unheilig because he was part of a similar cadre of self-appointed convo police on the other site.  

Maybe if fucksticks like Eric weren't so insecure that even the vaguest hinting that Games Workshop is anything but the Great and Allpowerful Leader who Will Lead Us to The Promised Land sent them into a frenzied attempt to shout it down lest their perfect image of the Great And Glorious Future prove to have a bit of a chink in it, it might actually be half way possible to have a genuinely intelligent conversation on the subject.

But until that magical day should arrive on this Earth, I will continue to make the best of matters by amusing myself at the expense of the delusional.

Does that meet with your approval, Commisar?

Not really.  Now if you were talking about Wizards of the Coast and D&D I'd totally agree with you.  Is there an I'm a complete and utterly morally bankrupt hypocrit smiley.  I seem to be needing one

This thread has descended into the most depraved depths of shitassery, but

Quote from: Erik BoielleThe original WFRP fanbase was a half dozen crotchety old men on Strike to Stun. Not marketing to huge, untapped markets like that is another reason GW do so well.

is the funniest fucking thing I've read all week.

Good lord, I had no idea little pewter* figurines could incite such passion.

*Tin?

That's because these so-called pewter (tin?) figures are the symbolic representation of gamers :raise:

Regards,
David R

Gee, look at my current name level. I wonder if there's a GW apothecary mini. It would have to be a gnome, though. Everyone knows that all apothecaries are gnomes.

The last time a gnome was seen in a GW product was the late eighties.  Rumour has it they were eaten by the tyranids.

Quote from: BalbinusIt's what rpg.net banned him for, he did the exact same thing defending Cyberpunk v.3.

His credibility suffered, prior to his banning,

For defending Cyberpunk V3 it's not a surpise his credibility has suffered.