Quote from: DrewHeh. I direct your attention to post #242....

Dude, I'm surprised I even posted in the right thread. You expect me to know what has already transpired?

Quote from: WilDude, I'm surprised I even posted in the right thread. You expect me to know what has already transpired?

If anyone has the courage, will and sheer masochistic tenacity to read this thread in it's entirety then I'll buy them a pint.

The best computer game to RPG conversion was Rune, and I still can't find more than 2 people willing to give it a spin. It was a great read though.

All of this would be relevant if DnD and Exalted weren't much like computer games. DnD because computergames stole from it shamelessly, and Exalted because it stole shamelessly from computergames.

Is that statement wrong? There arn't really any popular roleplaying game based on anything else! DnD is DnD these days, and Vampire wasn't a licence, even though it rips off vampire movies etc. in the same way Exalted rips off video games.

You don't play MERP - you play DnD. No one had heard of Lovecraft before call of cthulhu, and its ripping off horror movies anyway. Vampire isn't Ann Rice, the roleplaying game, its Vampire.

And Star Wars is Star Wars, which gets more like a video game all the time.

And a warhammer rpg that acts like a video game wouldn't qualify either! It would be a warhammer roleplaying game that steals shamelessly from video games!

And its not like video games havent stolen from other places - just that they tend to have teir own spin.

Quote from: Erik BoielleNo one had heard of Lovecraft before call of cthulhu, and its ripping off horror movies anyway.

This, more than anything else you've written showcases the levels of epic ignorance you labor under. It's no longer even necessary to rebut your 'arguments,' it's clear to everyone you're a one-man trainwreck of damaged comprehension.

Give it up, Erik. You're a joke.

Quote from: DrewIf anyone has the courage, will and sheer masochistic tenacity to read this thread in it's entirety then I'll buy them a pint.

I did and had a good laugh. So next time you are in my neck of the woods you owe me a pint. :crazy:

I can tell you at least from a computer game designer that used to be a rpg designer (who happens to be my brother) that they are two different creatures, though they share some of the same demographics which their player pool is from.

As far as GW I gave up on them years ago, just not my style. There are much better systems and Minis out there, it is just that they do not have the ability to advertise as well as GW these days.

Quote from: 1717 FusilI did and had a good laugh. So next time you are in my neck of the woods you owe me a pint. :crazy:

Hop on the next plane to London. I'll be in the pub around 8pm.

Quote from: DrewIf anyone has the courage, will and sheer masochistic tenacity to read this thread in it's entirety then I'll buy them a pint.

 You may owe me TWO pints.
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Between home and work computer browsings  I think I've read the whole thread 2 to 3 times.
Hell, I've even linked it by e-mail to that attractive lady that plays WARHAMMER thats a regular at the store.

- Ed C.

Quote from: Herr ArnulfeThe best computer game to RPG conversion was Rune, and I still can't find more than 2 people willing to give it a spin. It was a great read though.

If I could find like 4 or 5 copies cheap I'd probably give Rune a shot with my present D&D group.

Quote from: DrewYeah, WFRP was always seen as the poor cousin, which is why they stopped supporting it entirely.

The irony is that whilst the vast majority of 40k and WFB customers from the 80's were replaced with an ever younger, ever changing set of fans WFRP players like myself are still around. It may not have been the most profitable revenue stream, but lifetime custom is something that few businessess with sense disregard.

Yep, that is very true.

As for GW overcharging for their miniatures (the main point of this thread) eventually they are going to price themselves out of certain peoples range and those people will no longer be able to buy (or buy as much).

They used to be able to do it when they had no real competition because they had nothing to worry about, now well they aren't doing too hot because they have competition.

Either they will get it together and figure it out or they will go out of business.  

If you can't compete you die.

Either way life will go on.

Quote from: mhensleyThe really ironic thing about this is the huge success that wotc has had with their D&D minis game.  Rpg players clearly drive the sales- not players of the minis game itself.

Yep.  I think GW has tunnel vision and doesn't see that it has competition now and things can't be "Same old, Same Old"

They will either figure it out or they wont

Quote from: KoltarYou may owe me TWO pints.
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Between home and work computer browsings  I think I've read the whole thread 2 to 3 times.

And you've retained your sanity? I had no idea when posting the OP that it would mutate into this behemoth, and don't think I could ever face going back and reading it all over again. You have my respect, and sympathy.

QuoteHell, I've even linked it by e-mail to that attractive lady that plays WARHAMMER thats a regular at the store.

Then the drinks are on me.