Quote from: CantankerousSaltbeardSome people whine about the world being unfair, some people mold the world to their liking. I suppose it's just a fundamental difference that can't be explained. I'll leave y'all to your whining.

Ah yes, for I was whining.

I'm willing to mold the world to my liking.

Does that mean if I like, I can assfuck you?

I'm really kind of curious, of how you can rationalize your "Strong May Victimize the Weak Without Repercussions" philosophy taking into account modern civilization.

Me, I've never whined about the world being unfair. I learned at an early age that life isn't fair, deal with it.

You, however, seem to be blathering on the same mantra that bullies and asswipes everywhere claim. Typical tough guy bullshit I usually hear in the bar from some good ol' boy asswipe trying to explain why it's OK to jump someone with his three buddies.

Tell me, oh wise one, what's the difference between what you speak of, and of those who take what they want from the weaker, despite laws or social conventios?

Why is it OK for your philosophy to preach this, yet you would undoubtably be upset if I harmed you or yours?

It's not something that can't be explained.

People who believe that the weak deserve to be victimized are usually spineless douchebags who attack the weak to feel superior, or attack other people in packs.

Explain to me how this isn't true.

Quote from: T-WillardAh yes, for I was whining.

I'm willing to mold the world to my liking.

Does that mean if I like, I can assfuck you?

I'm really kind of curious, of how you can rationalize your "Strong May Victimize the Weak Without Repercussions" philosophy taking into account modern civilization.

Me, I've never whined about the world being unfair. I learned at an early age that life isn't fair, deal with it.

You, however, seem to be blathering on the same mantra that bullies and asswipes everywhere claim. Typical tough guy bullshit I usually hear in the bar from some good ol' boy asswipe trying to explain why it's OK to jump someone with his three buddies.

Tell me, oh wise one, what's the difference between what you speak of, and of those who take what they want from the weaker, despite laws or social conventios?

Why is it OK for your philosophy to preach this, yet you would undoubtably be upset if I harmed you or yours?

It's not something that can't be explained.

People who believe that the weak deserve to be victimized are usually spineless douchebags who attack the weak to feel superior, or attack other people in packs.

Explain to me how this isn't true.

Simple: He's never been in the real world, nor victim of someone taking advantage of him.

Nor, I'd wager, in the situation of standing up to defend the rights of someone who couldn't do it for themselves.

He's of the variety that doesn't comprehend that sometimes those with tales of bullies are those who have defended others against those who would take what they want by whatever means they could get away with.

Quote from: WolvorineNor, I'd wager, in the situation of standing up to defend the rights of someone who couldn't do it for themselves.

He's of the variety that doesn't comprehend that sometimes those with tales of bullies are those who have defended others against those who would take what they want by whatever means they could get away with.

The taffy-like stretches of imaginations that y'all will resort to in order to protect your bubbles is laughable. In fact, I do stand up for the weak whenever I have the chance, that has nothing to do with what I said whatsoever. Also, I've certainly been the victim of someone taking advantage of me, but when I realized it I stood up and did something about it, I didn't start crying about how the world was unfair and take my beating.

Bullying is going to happen no matter what you do, the proper thing is to teach both the bullies *and* the victims how to behave properly in those situations, not to cry about it.

Quote from: CantankerousSaltbeardThe taffy-like stretches of imaginations that y'all will resort to in order to protect your bubbles is laughable. In fact, I do stand up for the weak whenever I have the chance, that has nothing to do with what I said whatsoever. Also, I've certainly been the victim of someone taking advantage of me, but when I realized it I stood up and did something about it, I didn't start crying about how the world was unfair and take my beating.

Bullying is going to happen no matter what you do, the proper thing is to teach both the bullies *and* the victims how to behave properly in those situations, not to cry about it.

Actually, that is a lot different than your previous quote of: "Victims deserve it because they are weak."

So which is it?

Quote from: T-WillardActually, that is a lot different than your previous quote of: "Victims deserve it because they are weak."

So which is it?

Perhaps you could quote the message where I said that?

Quote from: CantankerousSaltbeardPerhaps you could quote the message where I said that?

Happy to oblige.

Quote from: CantankerousSaltbeardNothing happens "in our high schools," it's individuals that don't know how to get along with others that have all these sob stories. They're weak, and so like in any social environment, they're either ignored or their weakness is taken advantage of. It's not the system, it's them, and they just don't want to own up to it.

It's not the system, it's them, because they are weak, but they don't want to own up to it.

They're weak, that's why it happens.

Along with, it's not the system, it's them.

Then I wrote...

Quote from: T-WillyIt's the chickenshit system that refuses to acknowledge that some people are worthless assholes. It's lousy motherfuckers who excuse bullying with some bullshit excuse like "It's just boys having fun..." or "If they wouldn't be so weak..." and other fucktard lines.

Among other things, which you then quoted and replied...

Quote from: CantankerousSaltbeardSome people whine about the world being unfair, some people mold the world to their liking. I suppose it's just a fundamental difference that can't be explained. I'll leave y'all to your whining.

Now, would you like to rephrase your answers, or would you be happy with the label of NTL's resident clueless motherfucker?

Quote from: T-WillardNow, would you like to rephrase your answers, or would you be happy with the label of NTL's resident clueless motherfucker?

Waitaminute!  What?  He's taking my crown away?

Oh wait, never mind.  I forgot I'm not the mofo part...

-SJ

Quote from: T-WillardNow, would you like to rephrase your answers, or would you be happy with the label of NTL's resident clueless motherfucker?

No need. The fact that you couldn't cite anywhere I said what you said I did means that you need to revisit your argument before there's any further discussion. You're simply arguing against something that's not there.

Quote from: CantankerousSaltbeardNo need. The fact that you couldn't cite anywhere I said what you said I did means that you need to revisit your argument before there's any further discussion. You're simply arguing against something that's not there.

Wow, what colour is the sky where you live?

Let me guess...

Because you believe it to be so, it is.

Quote from: CantankerousSaltbeardNo need. The fact that you couldn't cite anywhere I said

WTF? that was a pretty obvious cite to me.  And you're just backpeddling to try to avoid admitting you're wrong.

But T-Willard did have one thing wrong.  This makes you NKL's resident clueless motherfucker.  You still have a ways to go before you can compete for that title on NTL.

Quote from: NicephorusWTF? that was a pretty obvious cite to me.  And you're just backpeddling to try to avoid admitting you're wrong.

But T-Willard did have one thing wrong.  This makes you NKL's resident clueless motherfucker.  You still have a ways to go before you can compete for that title on NTL.

I guess someone is sorry he drew the T-Willard card :deviousgrin: (I realize my post is unproductive, but I just don't see, why Saltbeard wants to prolong this)

Regards,
David R

Quote from: CantankerousSaltbeardNo need. The fact that you couldn't cite anywhere I said what you said I did means that you need to revisit your argument before there's any further discussion. You're simply arguing against something that's not there.

BACKPEDAL FASTER BITCH!

Quote from: T-WillardBACKPEDAL FASTER BITCH!

Just because your "posse" comes in and "has your back" does not mean that you are right.

You can quote no post in which I used the word "deserve" or even implied that it was the case. I'm not backpedaling, you're attempting to steam roll me, but just like the judo master, I am able to use your attempts against you.

If you all had learned judo, perhaps you would not have suffered such indignities at your schools.

Quote from: CantankerousSaltbeardIf you all had learned judo, perhaps you would not have suffered such indignities at your schools.

Judo?

JUDO?

JUDO!!??!?

For self-defense?

I think you meant ju-jitsu or aikido