FUDGE is kind of amazing

TristramEvans · June 14, 2016, 01:37:26 AM

Quote from: GameDaddy;902864Okay so with Fudge, the whole point is *not* to use modifiers often, we use the straight up dice throws with the five point fudge system , where every character is superb doing one thing, very good with doing two other things, above average at doing three things, and is mediocre at everything else (no dice mods).

This game system is inherently designed to ensure that every player that creates a character will have the opportunity to use their skills and abilities to influence the game. This is a game that is designed to ensure that all the players can meaningfully participate, and throws the rules lawyers and min-maxers who invariably try to hog the spotlight into the gutter, where they rightfully belong.

Now Fate spun this around a bit, by giving the players the tools to meaningfully participate as co-GMs, to not only influence their characters development, but the GMs gameworld as well. Some GM's are very uncomfortable with this.

Some players aren't either.

But this isn't originally what FATE did at all. FATE 2nd Edition introduced Aspects as basically freeform traits but had none of the narrative editing, FATE point economy, or other storygame trappings of the modern iteration of FATE. And it was good.

RPGPundit · June 20, 2016, 05:31:12 AM

Quote from: TristramEvans;903400Some players aren't either.

But this isn't originally what FATE did at all. FATE 2nd Edition introduced Aspects as basically freeform traits but had none of the narrative editing, FATE point economy, or other storygame trappings of the modern iteration of FATE. And it was good.

Exactly. FATE is decent RPG. The Storygaming stuff was tacked-on after the fact. And the proof that it's an RPG and not a Storygame is that you can easily remove all the storygaming stuff without any problems.

AsenRG · June 21, 2016, 05:38:05 AM

Quote from: RPGPundit;904270Exactly. FATE is decent RPG. The Storygaming stuff was tacked-on after the fact. And the proof that it's an RPG and not a Storygame is that you can easily remove all the storygaming stuff without any problems.

Which is probably why we liked it when we first tried it, we removed it almost without noticing;).

daniel_ream · June 21, 2016, 12:46:31 PM

Quote from: RPGPundit;904270Exactly. FATE is decent RPG. The Storygaming stuff was tacked-on after the fact. And the proof that it's an RPG and not a Storygame is that you can easily remove all the storygaming stuff without any problems.

Yes, we've always been at war with Eastasia.

RPGPundit · June 27, 2016, 04:34:47 AM

Quote from: daniel_ream;904452Yes, we've always been at war with Eastasia.

That phrase really only works if you weren't actually always at war with Eastasia. But in this particular metaphor, I have!

daniel_ream · June 27, 2016, 12:43:24 PM

Quote from: RPGPundit;905481That phrase really only works if you weren't actually always at war with Eastasia. But in this particular metaphor, I have!

Your definition of storygame seems to mutate based on what you happen to like, rather than the other way around. But whatever, I'm not arguing with a cartoon.

DarcyDettmann · June 27, 2016, 08:17:08 PM

I still want to learn how to build Super Powers...:confused:

AsenRG · June 27, 2016, 08:18:58 PM

Quote from: DarcyDettmann;905578I still want to learn how to build Super Powers...:confused:

Any number of RPGs allow you to "build your own power"

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daniel_ream · June 27, 2016, 09:49:02 PM

Every RPG allows you to build your own powers. Some RPGs give you an optional system of abstruse equations that will let you write an arbitrary number next to the power that you can pretend means something.

DarcyDettmann · June 27, 2016, 09:57:42 PM

Quote from: AsenRG;905579Any number of RPGs allow you to "build your own power".

Quote from: daniel_ream;905588Every RPG allows you to build your own powers. Some RPGs give you an optional system of abstruse equations that will let you write an arbitrary number next to the power that you can pretend means something.

Let me be more clear: how you build powers using FUDGE rules?

AsenRG · June 28, 2016, 07:46:30 AM

Quote from: DarcyDettmann;905590Let me be more clear: how you build powers using FUDGE rules?

Make them skills.

Soylent Green · June 28, 2016, 01:55:12 PM

Quote from: DarcyDettmann;905590Let me be more clear: how you build powers using FUDGE rules?

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Check the Psionic Powers rules in the Fudge SRD (pg. 89 in the 2005 PDF). It is a pretty good model. It leaves you a lot work to do to make into a complete, full fleshed out superhero game.

Alternatively take ICONS as a basis and adapt it to Fudge. ICONS started off as Steve Kenson conversion notes from TSR's Marvel Super Heroes to Fudge (he called it the Superlative System) so you are practically there.

There was back in the day a homebrew Fudge supers system called World of Wonder doing the rounds on the Internet, but I would not recommend it.

RPGPundit · July 01, 2016, 07:33:38 AM

Quote from: daniel_ream;905515Your definition of storygame seems to mutate based on what you happen to like, rather than the other way around. But whatever, I'm not arguing with a cartoon.

Nonsense. My definition has always been the same. There are RPGs that I absolutely do not like but that I readily acknowledge are RPGs.

RPGPundit · July 01, 2016, 07:35:07 AM

Quote from: DarcyDettmann;905590Let me be more clear: how you build powers using FUDGE rules?

Look at ICONS. It's a FATE/FUDGE game, with powers. Use it as your landmark. Hell, if you're doing supers-style powers, you will probably find all you need right there.

Jeffrywith1e · December 18, 2016, 01:52:32 AM

Quote from: estar;809621Hack and Slash

Short, simple, and to the point. Has all the Fudge essentials in it. And you are already familiar with the genre as a bonus.

Is Hack-N-Slash the Five Point Fudge version of Fudge?