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Fuck you too, Wizards. Fuck you too.

Started by J Arcane, September 10, 2007, 04:46:00 PM

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Haffrung

#105
September 12, 2007, 12:36:41 PM
One thing I noticed in recent threads about piracy is how many gamers are fiercely anti-commerce. The simple existence of an RPG company set up to make money seems to fill some people with outrage.

I'm curious why that's the case. Is it an age thing - is there a strong anti-business sentiment among the under-35 crowd? Is it the fact many gamers seem to be both money-scarce and obsessive about collecting? Is it an anti-authoritarian streak in geeks?

Whatever it is, I don't think I've ever seen any other leisure activity where the sellers are so reviled by the buyers.
 

jgants

#106
September 12, 2007, 02:11:23 PM
Quote from: HaffrungOne thing I noticed in recent threads about piracy is how many gamers are fiercely anti-commerce. The simple existence of an RPG company set up to make money seems to fill some people with outrage.

I'm curious why that's the case. Is it an age thing - is there a strong anti-business sentiment among the under-35 crowd? Is it the fact many gamers seem to be both money-scarce and obsessive about collecting? Is it an anti-authoritarian streak in geeks?

Whatever it is, I don't think I've ever seen any other leisure activity where the sellers are so reviled by the buyers.

I'm all for people making money.  But you have to admit, there is a big difference between feeling like a game is made by somebody with similar tastes as you (even if they are trying to make a living at it) and being made by a corporate machine that either disregards you as a person entirely, or actively mocks you for buying their product.

As for anti-business attitude for the under-35 crowd, perhaps you haven't been paying attention to current events, but it seems as if megacorporations find a new way to make life worse for everyone on the planet on an almost daily basis.  I swear, the dystopian future of cyberpunk, with its megacorporations ruling the world, has never seemed so plausible.
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#107
September 12, 2007, 02:13:52 PM
Quote from: jgantsI swear, the dystopian future of cyberpunk, with its megacorporations ruling the world, has never seemed so plausible.

Hell yeah! Next stop, datajacks and cyber breasts!

What? The cyber breasts aren't for me. At least not directly. :D

Haffrung

#108
September 12, 2007, 02:33:05 PM
Quote from: jgantsAs for anti-business attitude for the under-35 crowd, perhaps you haven't been paying attention to current events, but it seems as if megacorporations find a new way to make life worse for everyone on the planet on an almost daily basis.

[reply posted in Off Topic Discussions]
 

Thanatos02

#109
September 12, 2007, 11:47:15 PM
Quote from: Bradford C. WalkerBecause of the designer?  No.  Because of his paymasters?  Sure.

Well, ok. After all, they say you vote with your pocket-book.
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Settembrini

#110
September 13, 2007, 02:43:50 AM
There is one thing I don´t like about Noonan´s implicit thinking.

Weather is a chaotic system out of human control. Shaking your fists at the clouds is pathetic, because the weather is not determined by anyone.

Except in a model that involves gods.
Implicitly, Noonan says they are gods, we are mortals. I don´t like that.
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Christmas Ape

#111
September 13, 2007, 03:53:16 AM
Quote from: SettembriniThere is one thing I don´t like about Noonan´s implicit thinking.

Weather is a chaotic system out of human control. Shaking your fists at the clouds is pathetic, because the weather is not determined by anyone.

Except in a model that involves gods.
Implicitly, Noonan says they are gods, we are mortals. I don´t like that.
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baran_i_kanu

#112
September 14, 2007, 05:40:33 AM
this whole 4ed frenzy has been interesting to me simply because i balked at switching to 3e back when it was first being shown and sold to us.
the changes in the game were too much for me to take and it flipped me out.
i tried 3e a few times with friends but eventually refused to switch from my pre-3e editions.
a lot of the reactions, justified or not, remind me of how i expressed my feelings over the switch.

deja vu.



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Cab

#113
September 14, 2007, 05:45:50 AM
Quote from: baran_i_kanua lot of the reactions, justified or not, remind me of how i expressed my feelings over the switch.

Some of them. Although I think that now, like then, some other reactions are rather better thought out.
 
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