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Frank Trollman libels Alexander Macris [of Autarch, and ACKS]

Started by Sacrificial Lamb, October 09, 2019, 01:59:33 AM

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GnomeWorks

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;1109759Well, his name is TROLLman.

But so? Who cares what he thinks of some game? Do you like it? If so, play it! If not, don't.

Dude's name is literally Trollman, and to my knowledge that isn't an affectation. I don't see a reason to keep giving him shit about it. Low-hanging fruit.

From my perspective, the problem is that he has a pretty firm grasp of mechanics and has a rather strong analytical mind when it comes to breaking shit down and pointing out its flaws. When he is being constructive and productive, he doesn't often misstep - he does, as any human does, but the quality is pretty up there.

This is a problem because as of late (and that might mean "past several years," getting older has kind of warped my sense of the passage of time a bit), the injection of political commentary has become more and more blatant, and the Den has - overall - become more politicized and polarized. Whether or not I agree with their political stances, I come to these forums to talk about gaming, not about politics, and it's getting all so tiresome.
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Sacrificial Lamb

amacris, you're handling this incredibly well, and seem way more mature than Trollman and his henchmen. He was even accusing Pundit of being an "alt-right troll" and "neo-Nazi". I mean, seriously.

https://tgdmb.com/viewtopic.php?t=57411&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Quote from: FrankTrollmanWhich brings us back to theRPGSite. Obviously it's run by RPGPundit, and he's a hateful toxic alt-right troll who has doubled down again and again on far right sewage. Anyone who still hangs with him at this point is at least complicit in his promotion of Neo-Nazism. And the fact that those assholes think they need to defend the honor of Macris is all the proof you need that Macris doesn't have any honor to defend.


Quote from: amacris;1109761What a silly, silly man he is. In light of this antics, I'm hereby demoting him from Trollman to Gnollman. He lacks the intellectual Hit Dice of a troll.

Frank Gnollman: MV 30', AC 0, HD 2, hp 2, #AT 1 hyperbolic accusation of terrorism, Dmg None, Save F2, ML -4, XP None, Special Abilities: generate laughter (victims of "attack" must save vs. Paralysis or be stunned for 1d4 rounds laughing at the words coming out of his mouth)

You are far more "zen" than I am, my friend. I'd like to buy ACKS, as I haven't read it yet. I'm not quite sure where I should buy it. Should I get it from the Autarch website, or Amazon? I'm a little unsure. I've been away from tabletop gaming for far too long.

Spinachcat

Quote from: amacris;1109761What a silly, silly man he is. In light of this antics, I'm hereby demoting him from Trollman to Gnollman. He lacks the intellectual Hit Dice of a troll.

You're too generous with 2HD as even a mange rattled gnoll is too cool to be associated with him.

This clown is an embarrassing 0HD ass goblin, like a snotling from Warhammer.

deadDMwalking

Quote from: Warboss Squee;1109737Aren't you the one that went crying to the Den that we were saying mean things about Crazy Frank?

I think that's a mischaracterization, but yes.  I'm active on both boards.  Sacrificial Lamb quoted and posted to the Den in this thread.  Since the folks here were directly talking about a conversation over there, I thought it was absolutely appropriate to make the folks over there aware.  I'm sorry if you thought that talking behind their backs wasn't going to get noticed or called out.  

If someone on the Den had started a thread quoting blocks of text from theRPGsite I'd generally do the same.
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QuoteI'm never going to take moral choice advice from someone who thinks Antifa is a terrorist organization...

Uh...Maybe because ANTIFA is a terrorist organization. By definition. They don't all speak Arabic, ya'know.
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On the general topic, I don't know Trollman from Adam (or anyone else), but he sounds like an absolute tosser. I have had many pleasant interactions with Macris, who has always been polite and knowledgeable.

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales;1109557I'm really frustrated that sort of cultural exchange isn't depicted in mainstream media, and it's doubly annoying because the blame rests at the feet of the self-styled SJWs. I watched Merlin and was surprised that Guinevere wasn't some Moorish noblewoman, because that would have made far more sense for Arthur to marry her later. Greek mythology has several black kings, queens, princes and princesses who never show up in adaptations. Africa has countless mythologies that never get referenced in Western popular culture. The Aethiopica ("The Ethiopian Story") is about the adventures of a black princess who could pass for white, and ends with her interracial marriage to a Greek nobleman.

The very first Greek hero mentioned in the Iliad is Memnon, who was an Ethiopian king (and black). The fact that he was black didn't make him any less Greek, to the ancients.
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Omega

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;1109759Well, his name is TROLLman.

But so? Who cares what he thinks of some game? Do you like it? If so, play it! If not, don't.

Let's be serious: your favourite game sucks. But that's your problem, not mine. Why are you indignant at his indignation? Pass the cheetoes and game on, motherfucker.

Because we are at the point where these sociopaths can do alot of harm to someone given a chance. And people are way too willing to stand by and do nothing and say nothing against this.

And the games dont suck. You do. You need to accept this fact.

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Quote from: GameDaddy;1109468To say that Germany is an Arian white supremacist state is simply ridiculous, although there is a strong right wing white-supremacist political party that is strongly anti-immigration and xenophobic, and this group composes at present approximately 20% of the population of Germany.

Aryan <> Arian
Aryan concept of race did not originate until the mid 19th century though.

BronzeDragon

Quote from: deadDMwalking;1109809I think that's a mischaracterization, but yes.  I'm active on both boards.  Sacrificial Lamb quoted and posted to the Den in this thread.  Since the folks here were directly talking about a conversation over there, I thought it was absolutely appropriate to make the folks over there aware.  I'm sorry if you thought that talking behind their backs wasn't going to get noticed or called out.  

If someone on the Den had started a thread quoting blocks of text from theRPGsite I'd generally do the same.

"Frank, the folks over at theRPGsite decided to repost your comments for the specific purpose of making fun of you.

It's almost funny that they're calling you out for libel and then engaging in libel."

- You, making them "aware".

Such a fucking weasel.
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nope

Quote from: BronzeDragon;1109856"Frank, the folks over at theRPGsite decided to repost your comments for the specific purpose of making fun of you.

It's almost funny that they're calling you out for libel and then engaging in libel."

- You, making them "aware".

Such a fucking weasel.

Not only that, but he posted that with a straight face while at the same time quoting Frank's "we can't really extend that kind of good faith to ACKS, because it turns out to be written by a guy who is almost exactly Osama Bin Laden" line.

Lmao. Stay classy, deadDMwalking.

SHARK

Quote from: BronzeDragon;1109856"Frank, the folks over at theRPGsite decided to repost your comments for the specific purpose of making fun of you.

It's almost funny that they're calling you out for libel and then engaging in libel."

- You, making them "aware".

Such a fucking weasel.

Greetings!

DeadDMwalking actions--making them "aware"--reminds me of the character "Oppen" in the movie, "Saving Private Ryan." Oppen was the pasty, weak, American GI that was assigned to the American rescue mission as a translator.

While fighting against attacking Nazi soldiers in a village, the American forces desperate to achieve victory or successfully escape, Oppen stood by and watched as the brutal Nazi soldier got the jump on the Jewish American GI, overpowered him, and slowly drove his dagger into the valiant American soldier, killing him. Afterwards, the Nazi soldier gets up, and walks past the cowing, swarmy Oppen American, trembling, crying, and shitting himself. The Nazi soldier shakes his head, gazing at Oppen with utter contempt and disgust, laughing grimly, before walking past the coward Oppen. It's a powerful scene in the film illustrating the price of cowardice, moral weaness, and self-serving, boot-licking complicity.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
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BoxCrayonTales

Quote from: BronzeDragon;1109856"Frank, the folks over at theRPGsite decided to repost your comments for the specific purpose of making fun of you.

It's almost funny that they're calling you out for libel and then engaging in libel."

- You, making them "aware".

Such a fucking weasel.
Really?

The worst that's going on here is that people are mocking Trollman. I don't agree with the mockery on moral principle, but it isn't the same as trying to tarnish Macris' reputation by falsely claiming he is a neo-nazi terrorist.

SHARK

Quote from: Brad;1109893This is what I envision deadDMwalking looking like:


Greetings!

You know, that image was also in my mind, but I couldn't remember the actor's name. You're reading my mind, brother! Fucing so right on! That's hilarious, Brad!

YES MASTER!!!!!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
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Mistwell

Quote from: deadDMwalking;1109809I think that's a mischaracterization, but yes.  I'm active on both boards.  Sacrificial Lamb quoted and posted to the Den in this thread.  Since the folks here were directly talking about a conversation over there, I thought it was absolutely appropriate to make the folks over there aware.  I'm sorry if you thought that talking behind their backs wasn't going to get noticed or called out.  

If someone on the Den had started a thread quoting blocks of text from theRPGsite I'd generally do the same.

"It's almost funny that they're calling you out for libel and then engaging in libel"

How is that not "talking behind our backs"?