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Frank Trollman libels Alexander Macris [of Autarch, and ACKS]

Started by Sacrificial Lamb, October 09, 2019, 01:59:33 AM

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Abraxus

It is to be blunt quite sad, terrible, pathetic and even more importantly to see fellow gamers like DeadDMWalking not only close their eyes to Trollman lies, and bullshit and drink the kool-aid. They freely give their arms so that an IV can be hooked up to it. I may not have agree with much that DeadDMwalking has posted he at least until I saw how he acted in the other thread at least more intelligent and rational. If anything "Frank Trollman says it so it must be true". I have to at least give credit to Gnomeworks to giving two big middle fingers to Trollman and his butt kissing sycophants. "Post more in line of what we demand here at the Gaming Den and all will be forgiven.". Gnomeworks "take that buttkissing bullshit and shove it up your ass".

jeff37923

Gang, don't hold DeadDMWalking against Knoxville, TN - it really is a good town for gaming.
"Meh."

Trond

Looks like Alexander is almost officially a Nazi now, according to the consensus on the Gaming Den :D EDIT: for context deadDMwalking pointed out that they shouldn’t mock Alexander after he was banned, and that was just too much for some.
Here are some choice quotes from two posters:

QuoteI think anything insulting or infuriating to literal nazi's that literally exist right now and are currently attempting to help finance people involved with various wings of the fourth reich is good. And you need to take 70,000 enormous steps out of your own fucking asshole if your message is that someone may be a literal nazi but mocking them is stepping a bit out of forum guidelines and that's a line that shouldn't be crossed.

QuoteSo imagine if you will you live in a small town with a game store. Now sadly Nazi's hold a rally in your small town and people are hurt. After the dust settle during FNM or D&D night or whatever one of the patrons stands up and says that not only did the owner of the game store donate money to the Nazi's he helped organize their rally. When confronted with this with this the owner says that while he never intended anyone to be hurt and he personally abhors the Nazi's beliefs he did help them with their rally in the name of "preserving free speech." This does not satisfy most people and there is a mass walk out of the store. FNM or whatever is ruined for the forseeable future.

Oh, and how come none of them seems to be able to spell "Nazis" correctly?

Warboss Squee

Quote from: jeff37923;1110714Gang, don't hold DeadDMWalking against Knoxville, TN - it really is a good town for gaming.

Seems to have a higher concentration of bitchass than normal.

Brad

Quote from: Warboss Squee;1110730Seems to have a higher concentration of bitchass than normal.

I vaguely remember him saying something about being from California, so that's all the explanation you need.
It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance.

Gagarth

Quote from: Brad;1111028I vaguely remember him saying something about being from California, so that's all the explanation you need.

He said he likes to shit in public parks in California, Anaheim Hills if I remember correctly.
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Ratman_tf

Quote from: Trond;1110723Looks like Alexander is almost officially a Nazi now, according to the consensus on the Gaming Den :D EDIT: for context deadDMwalking pointed out that they shouldn't mock Alexander after he was banned, and that was just too much for some.
Here are some choice quotes from two posters:





Oh, and how come none of them seems to be able to spell "Nazis" correctly?


Literal
Nazis
The notion of an exclusionary and hostile RPG community is a fever dream of zealots who view all social dynamics through a narrow keyhole of structural oppression.
-Haffrung

Stephen Tannhauser

Quote from: Trond;1110723Oh, and how come none of them seems to be able to spell "Nazis" correctly?

Well, come on; they may be Nazis, but they're not grammar Nazis.
Better to keep silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt. -- Mark Twain

STR 8 DEX 10 CON 10 INT 11 WIS 6 CHA 3

Stephen Tannhauser

Quote from: Sacrificial Lamb;1110619Anyone that would be classified as a "white supremacist" will always talk about the Jews.

Reminds me of one of Umberto Eco's lines from Foucault's Pendulum: "The lunatic is all idée fixe, and whatever he comes across confirms his lunacy. You can tell him by the liberties he takes with common sense, by his flashes of inspiration, and by the fact that sooner or later he brings up the Templars."
Better to keep silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt. -- Mark Twain

STR 8 DEX 10 CON 10 INT 11 WIS 6 CHA 3

Doom

Quote from: Gagarth;1111088He said he likes to shit in public parks in California, Anaheim Hills if I remember correctly.

If only that narrowed down who he is.
(taken during hurricane winds)

A nice education blog.

Mistwell

Quote from: Brad;1111028I vaguely remember him saying something about being from California, so that's all the explanation you need.

So he was born in the state which has 1 out of every 8 Americans? Oh yeah, that narrows it down sooooo much.

jeff37923

Quote from: Mistwell;1111102So he was born in the state which has 1 out of every 8 Americans? Oh yeah, that narrows it down sooooo much.

It ain't me. I lived in California but was born in Wyoming. Probably why I don't use "majority" in a textbook manner. :D
"Meh."

fixable

Quote from: Doom;1109262Look fixable, wayyyy up in the sky, far above your head.

That's a joke.

Quote from: fixable;1109265Lol.. what. You're being childish. I'm not going away. Deal with it.

Ok. Damnit. I was being childish. I apologize. I went too far.

fixable

#163
Quote from: amacris;1110653Gnollman has now updated his viewpoint to explain that *actually* what he meant is that I am just "morally responsible" for mass murder because I "funneled dark money" to terrorists and that if you want evidence of this you should "shut up".

Since he is now making up new facts to libel me with, let me respond once again:
1. At no point in my life have I ever had access to "dark money". I don't even know what "dark money" is supposed to be. I assume he means "money from illegal sources spent in illegal ways" or something. As far as MILO Inc, we received funding from a very prominent investor to a Business Checking account at BB&T, at the local branch near where I live. Then we hired a CPA, set up a 401(k), hired W2 employees, and filed our taxes. This notion of shadowy financial networks is a figment of Gnollman's  imagination.

2. At no point was any money funneled from the MILO Inc. organization towards political financing or activists. You want to know where the money was spent? It's a matter of public record that Milo had the company fund (a) an enormous billboard of his face in Times Square in front of the NBC building, (b) a huge number of political posters of Milo's face on the NY, DC, and Chicago metro system, (c) his $1 million Hawaii wedding to his black boyfriend, (d) his $500,000 custom gold-plated Tesla, (e) his full-body liposuction, (f) his full set of veneers to fix his teeth, and (g) oodles of personal jewelry and clothing, including a $13,000 designer jacket he wore exactly once. That's what we spent the money on. A lot of these expenses were gauche, unproductive, and foolish - but they weren't "dark" as they're all documented in various news stories that are widely published, and in our tax filings;  they certainly aren't "terrorism" unless you think bad taste is a terrorist act.

Unlike Gnollman's imaginary facts, these facts can be empirically verified. It was all out in the public eye. Hell, the ACLU actually represented Milo in litigation, so there are legal briefs that document a lot of what we spent money on. But of course Gnollman won't even try to verify his claims because "shut up".

In any case, Gnollman clearly hasn't even thought his own conspiracy theory through. Given that Milo was world famous in 2017, why on Earth would anyone set up an entity called "MILO Inc" and use THAT to spread dark money around?!? You don't use the company of a notoriously narcissistic celebrity who likes to run his mouth for a SECRET TERRORIST FINANCING NETWORK. You set up a front company called something like "The American Liberty Fund" or "Americans For Sensible Immigration Policy" or "The Frank Trollman Center for the Mentally Handicapped" and you stay out of the news entirely. This is like Supervillain 101. George Soros must be gravely disappointed in Frank... I don't even know how Gnollman can be an effective gamemaster if his level of evil scheming is this poor. He probably runs story games.

I appreciate this. Its way unfair that you have to put so much effort into clearing yourself.

Your game has brought years of fun and has rejuvenated my RPG experience (after burning out on 4E and re-discovering classic D&D your game was the first and best I found). My ACKS campaign is on hiatus due to players having moved, but I'm working to bring it back in an online format.

I think on both sides, people go WAY too far in vilifying those with differing opinions and beliefs. I include myself as often guilty of this as well. People rather pop labels on others instead of really trying to understand their point of view.

Edit: Thank you for making a great game!

Spinachcat

This thread is extra weird, even for us!

False Flags! Dark Money! Forum Drama! OSR Retroclone! Milo! Hate Speech!

Who knew one thread would score theRPGsite bingo?

Keep up the good work! And keep those awesome quotes from the Denners coming! What a bunch of nutty bitches!

Quote from: GeekyBugle;1110670Milo, the Gay descendant of Jews married to a black man, the secret leader of the huwhite supremacists! Bwahahahahahahah

It's the perfect cover!