Or just stay off social media.

Quote from: Nerzenjäger;1002222You sure love your Vox Day...

Honest question:  Who?  I got that from watching Youtube comic book fan reviewer videos.  And frankly, it's pretty accurate.

I'll take a known 'SJW's' word with a massive grain of salt.  That Mr. Mentzer posts are clearly evident is the only way we have the truth of the situation.

And I agree, this has gotten way too political, but that's because the topic is dead, the KS has ended.

Quote from: Christopher Brady;1002298Honest question:  Who?  I got that from watching Youtube comic book fan reviewer videos.  And frankly, it's pretty accurate.

He came up with those lines.

'Vox Day' on always fair & balanced Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vox_Day

He identifies as Alt Right, but spends as much time attacking Richard Spencer's 'Nazi Fake Right' as he does attacking Milo-type Alt Lite sorts like Pundit or mainstream 'cuckservatives' and left-liberals.

I haven't been following him until recently & not sure what I think of him personally. He seems to stand somewhere between the Darkness (Spencer & the Neo-Nazis) and the Lite (eg Lauren Southern, who I think is great). He's smart, high energy, has a lot of fans and a high opinion of himself. He may have some views I'd object to but I've not seen them yet. I think him and his lot are 'Hard Alt Light' - they might deny it, but really they have more in common with the civic nationalists they deride than the Alt-Reich Nazis they also deride. They hate the Nazis, but they don't reject empirical reality for ideology the way some Alt Lite do (eg Paul Joseph Watson, not Lauren Southern), which seems close to my position. But there may be differences I've not spotted yet.

Quote from: S'mon;1001962I wanted to copy/paste her Twitter feed for you, but I am way too scared of those guys. It's like discussing the Mafia

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I had a low opinion of Price after seeing her turn Paizo's fora into a miserabilist SJW ghetto over a couple years, almost single handed. This doesn't affect my opinion of her. Her career seems to be primarily as an SJW, not doing anything constructive.

It does seem to be her prime focus in life doesn't it.

Interview with Jessica Price at the somewhat ironically titled blog "nerdy but flirty".

Taking part at a Pax 2013 panel talk titled "Everything We Know Is Sexist. Now What?"

Granted if whats been reported that Frank said is true he is rather tactless leaning towards creepy, looks to be a bottomless bucked of gasoline ever on the lookout for a match.

Quote from: Dumarest;1002286I assume due to anonymity.

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I'd say this is the driver for 90% of the vitriol on the internet. Anonymity and Lack of Consequences.

Mentzer is ok in my book I see nothing harassment related here. Some people these days are already offended if a person says "hello" to another person. The more I read the comments around the net the more I see the whole thing as a public stunt staged by some SJW's.

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I'd say this is the driver for 90% of the vitriol on the internet. Anonymity and Lack of Consequences.

Nope.  Anonymity is very difficult on social media, and that's where a great deal of the vitriol can be found.

Quote from: Celestial;1002355Nope.  Anonymity is very difficult on social media, and that's where a great deal of the vitriol can be found.

I can spoof everyone's IP on this site, with the right, and legal, software.  But I don't the inclination or care to.  There is NO anonymity, you will be found, if you haven't been already.

Quote from: Azraele;1002292It would be absurd for someone to say something on television and then sue the company broadcasting it for libel. "But I  didn't want what I said to affect me professionally!". Society has pretty much accepted that as true for as long as television has existed. It makes sense that, in an era where the United State's President has an active twitter feed, we should be considering our actions on social media in light of what professional harm they can do us.

Yeah, but most people didn't have the ability to wake up in the morning and start screaming into a TV camera before they've even had their coffee. So people's instincts and behavior patters aren't really ready for social media.

Quote from: fearsomepirate;1002417Yeah, but most people didn't have the ability to wake up in the morning and start screaming into a TV camera before they've even had their coffee. So people's instincts and behavior patters aren't really ready for social media.

You know, that is a damn fine point

Cox Day is a racist piece of shy and if you like him you're most likely a racist piece of shit, too. He's also not very smart but he's able to make dumb people think he's smart. I hope one day Teddy will find Grace and seek forgiveness and repent from his current hateful beliefs

Quote from: John Scott;1002354Mentzer is ok in my book I see nothing harassment related here. Some people these days are already offended if a person says "hello" to another person. The more I read the comments around the net the more I see the whole thing as a public stunt staged by some SJW's.

OK, after reading this I am interested in this kerfluffle. What makes you think it is staged?

Quote from: S'mon;1001909Making a pass at one of the most active Social Justice Warriors in the RPG industry was certainly idiotic. Getting in an argument with her about sexual assault possibly even dumber (especially as I think Price is objectively right on that one).

I do think these are modern issues, and Frank seems like an old codger who had no idea what he was getting into or the implication in lost contracts - no SocJus-supporting RPG publisher will hire him now.

She states on her twitter profile that she's a howling drunken sex fiend and she's shocked that someone makes a pass.

Quote from: Just Another Snake Cult;1002182What the FUCK is wrong with older white men these days? And I say that as a rural, small-town, gun-owning cracker pushing the big five-oh.

As a former teenage punk myself, and as a teacher of troubled, sometimes violent, kids... the current Geritol set is more authentically nihilistic and self-destructive than any teen punk, goth, or metalhead that I ever met.

Moving away from this specifically, to a more general case.

Speaking as somebody who's now 62... it's a fucking hell of a shock to wake up one morning and realize you're not the apex predator any more.  This is exacerbated by our society's idolization of youth, which, ironically, the Baby Boomers started.  And there's really no established way of dealing with it.  The "wise ancient sage" image is no longer part of our cultural heritage.

It's been especially blatant when I spend any time at church events with a significant number of Dakota/Lakota/Nakota people; they treat their eldest members with the greatest of respect.

So, I'd summarize as "I used to be large and in charge and I'm not ready to be thrown on the dung heap, dammit!"

But that's just one fat old white guy's personal opinion, not worth the electrons it's written on.