Quote from: S'mon;1001967I guess my feeling is that he was definitely being a jerk, worthy of negative gossip among friends, but he didn't deserve to be called out publicly on Twitter and have his remaining career harmed - there are posts "I was hiring him, no more!" by RPG publishers on her feed.  A few obnoxious comments does not a Harvey Weinstein make.
... Her career seems to be primarily as an SJW, not doing anything constructive. It does further lower my opinion of Mentzer after the EOTB fiasco, which is a shame. I have a lot of respect for his work on BECMI D&D. Plus the SJW Inquisition may now be coming back for Aleena the Cleric's tabard...

I agree with almost all of what you say here. She does strike me as the kind of shit-stirrer that makes it very hard to run an office and eventually ends up near-unemployable.

Quote from: S'mon;1001967I guess my feeling is that he was definitely being a jerk, worthy of negative gossip among friends, but he didn't deserve to be called out publicly on Twitter and have his remaining career harmed - there are posts "I was hiring him, no more!" by RPG publishers on her feed.  A few obnoxious comments does not a Harvey Weinstein make.

The problem is Frank REALLY did not do a good job of handling the situation. It's like the guy who is being a creep to the girl at the bar. While ignoring his friend  who keeps telling him to stop acting that way. Then the creep wonders why the girl at the bar called the cops on him. It was a trainwreck waiting to happen and Frank did nothing to stop the train from crashing.

It also appears that Frank Mentzer threatened Tenkars Tavern for posting a Kickstarter backer update. Between Dragonsfoot, Tenkar, and Twitter, he sure seems set to ruin his own reputation.

If anything, this just reinforces my opinion that social media is a blight upon humanity.  Twitter especially.

Quote from: sureshot;1001977The problem is Frank REALLY did not do a good job of handling the situation. It's like the guy who is being a creep to the girl at the bar. While ignoring his friend  who keeps telling him to stop acting that way. Then the creep wonders why the girl at the bar called the cops on him. It was a trainwreck waiting to happen and Frank did nothing to stop the train from crashing.

The problem is there was once an era where slightly crazy, grumpy old men did not have the ability to randomly butt into practically any conservation, anywhere, and in this same era, if you did have a chance to be an asshole, it was typically rebuffed by the people around you scolding you for being an asshole, rather than permanently ruining your ability to obtain employment anywhere in your industry, anywhere on the planet.

I think Frank isn't all there anymore and I think the woman from Pazio like other said seems to be a professional SJW. Frank was posting last night about how he's tried to be a good progressive and understand that we live in a white supremacist country and he's taken aback. It's sad.

Quote from: Celestial;1002027If anything, this just reinforces my opinion that social media is a blight upon humanity.  Twitter especially.

Humanity is the blight upon humanity. Tools are just tools.

Quote from: fearsomepirate;1002045The problem is there was once an era where slightly crazy, grumpy old men did not have the ability to randomly butt into practically any conservation, anywhere, and in this same era, if you did have a chance to be an asshole, it was typically rebuffed by the people around you scolding you for being an asshole, rather than permanently ruining your ability to obtain employment anywhere in your industry, anywhere on the planet.

  This is one of the problems--how do we properly rebuke Mentzer's bad behavior without turning into a lynch mob?

Excellent point.

Quote from: Armchair Gamer;1002066This is one of the problems--how do we properly rebuke Mentzer's bad behavior without turning into a lynch mob?

The only two options in this social media world are to do nothing, or to form a lynch mob and make sure that the victim of said lynch mob never works again.

Quote from: Armchair Gamer;1002066This is one of the problems--how do we properly rebuke Mentzer's bad behavior without turning into a lynch mob?

Does he need to be rebuked publically?

I think the solution is to ignore/block/ban someone and then move on.

I'm on the side that social media is a net harm to society and when you look at how few people actually use Twitter it's really sad it gest as much press as it does.

Once I had a woman employee who I found out had a co-worker asking her out again and again, when she kept turning him down he started to be bitchy towards her. I asked if she wanted me to step in and deal with him but she said no she could handle him. It wasn't a case of her being afraid of causing a fuss but her confidence in being able to take care of the situation. As the boss I had a responsibility to ensure it didn't go further but I also learned it is best to not assume that the woman needs to be rescued, ask them.

Here I can't see much net benefit in 'exposing' him.

There's a reason that they use to say never discuss sex, politics or religion at work. People using social media should keep that in mind, especially when it is tied to your professional life.

Quote from: Ulairi;1002078Does he need to be rebuked publically?

  A legitimate question. Some of his bad behavior was public, and I can see the merit in the argument that the private behavior should be rebuked so that others don't think they can get away with it. On the other hand, there does seem to be an appalling lack of proportion on both sides, especially if Mentzer threatened Price's livelihood as some are saying.

There is also something called being responsible for one actions. If Frank did not want to be blacklisted he should have behaved in a better fashion imo.

Yes no one is perfect yet instead of apologizing right away. He doubled down. While showing a shocking lack of common sense or any sense at all. Do I think he should have lost his job no. Yet again he did no favors to his cause or himself. Then again the norm seems to be do what you want consequences be damned.

Mentzer has lost his goddamned mind to the point where I almost feel guilty for mocking him.