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Frank Mentzer is launching a new project: Empyrea

Started by Ulairi, September 12, 2017, 07:27:10 PM

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S'mon

#240
October 14, 2017, 05:13:47 PM
Quote from: Armchair Gamer;999150It certainly looks like a conflict of interest, although the details of the deal may mitigate or increase that--for all we know, she could have licensed it to TSR for a dollar...

I read that it was a 'competitive' bid for the Buck Rogers licence; and TSR bid more for it than for the Star Wars licence!
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Dumarest

#241
October 14, 2017, 05:43:23 PM
Quote from: S'mon;1000709I read that it was a 'competitive' bid for the Buck Rogers licence; and TSR bid more for it than for the Star Wars licence!

Well, Star Wars was essentially dead or at least dormant at the time.

Also, imagine the awful job they would have done and what we would have missed if West End hadn't got the Star Wars license.

Voros

#242
October 15, 2017, 12:23:43 AM
Quote from: S'mon;1000709I read that it was a 'competitive' bid for the Buck Rogers licence; and TSR bid more for it than for the Star Wars licence!

Where did you read this?

Baulderstone

#243
October 15, 2017, 08:31:36 AM
Quote from: Dumarest;1000714Well, Star Wars was essentially dead or at least dormant at the time.
Yes, West End Games got the license very cheaply for that reason. I recall reading an interview from someone at WEG talking about telling someone they had gotten the license and being scoffed at for picking up a dead license.

It might be hard to remember now, but the Star Wars comic from Marvel had died the year before. The cartoons had all failed. There were never going to be anymore movies. There were no novels being put out. GI Joe and Transformers had taken over the toy market that Star Wars used to rule. There really was nothing happening with Star Wars at all.

Itachi

#244
October 18, 2017, 11:57:49 PM
So the guy is, supposedly, a creep. And the KS is over.

Voros

#245
October 19, 2017, 09:04:42 AM
Quote from: Itachi;1001713So the guy is, supposedly, a creep. And the KS is over.

Old dude is clueless. News at 11.

Dumarest

#246
October 19, 2017, 11:08:41 AM
Quote from: Voros;1001780Old dude is clueless. News at 11.

I'd call his response more than clueless, and it fits right in with the messages he denied sending on that Dragonfoot thing before. Hard to square with the people who claim they know him well and he's not like that. Eh, I don't know the guy and his project didn't interest me.

Itachi

#247
October 19, 2017, 11:27:35 AM
It's hard to judge without knowing details, but the Old dude was indelicate by making a pass at her like that. On the other hand, she seems to have overreacted a bit (though she was right in getting pissed).

Dumarest

#248
October 19, 2017, 12:29:18 PM
Quote from: Itachi;1001824It's hard to judge without knowing details, but the Old dude was indelicate by making a pass at her like that. On the other hand, she seems to have overreacted a bit (though she was right in getting pissed).

The "pass" wasn't the problem the way I  read it; it appeared the problem was when he started blaming victims of harassment for not defending themselves better and threatened to use his supposed influence  to destroy her career just like in the messages he claims he never sent. Maybe this account was hacked, too? ;)

(Personally I don't consider an awkward compliment online to be a pass and wouldn't have even responded to that part.)

Abraxus

#249
October 19, 2017, 12:46:17 PM Last Edit: October 19, 2017, 12:48:31 PM by sureshot
At this point one cannot defend Frank imo. Personally I don't have any dog in the fight yet his making a pass at her was not only in poor taste. It also amounts to career suicide imo. Instead of apologizing for his actions he doubles down on his initial stupidity. There is a difference in being clueless and stupid behavior and Frank is very firmly in the second.

S'mon

#250
October 19, 2017, 02:13:08 PM
Quote from: Voros;1000774Where did you read this?

I don't know, possibly Ryan Dancey.
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S'mon

#251
October 19, 2017, 02:40:58 PM
Quote from: Itachi;1001713So the guy is, supposedly, a creep. And the KS is over.

I think the cancellation https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/extsr/frank-mentzers-empyrea-fantasy-setting-for-10-rpg was likely more to do with the unrealistic $250,000 goal, but Frank has certainly managed to drum up plenty of bad publicity. When you have turned BOTH the Dragonsfoot grognards AND the SocJus crowd (Jessica Price & her supporters) against you, you know you're really doing something right...
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S'mon

#252
October 19, 2017, 02:46:09 PM
Quote from: sureshot;1001847At this point one cannot defend Frank imo. Personally I don't have any dog in the fight yet his making a pass at her was not only in poor taste. It also amounts to career suicide imo. Instead of apologizing for his actions he doubles down on his initial stupidity. There is a difference in being clueless and stupid behavior and Frank is very firmly in the second.

Making a pass at one of the most active Social Justice Warriors in the RPG industry was certainly idiotic. Getting in an argument with her about sexual assault possibly even dumber (especially as I think Price is objectively right on that one).

I do think these are modern issues, and Frank seems like an old codger who had no idea what he was getting into or the implication in lost contracts - no SocJus-supporting RPG publisher will hire him now.
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Apparition

#253
October 19, 2017, 02:48:37 PM
So for one with no access to Twitter, what's the hub bub, bub?

Dumarest

#254
October 19, 2017, 02:57:11 PM
Quote from: Celestial;1001911So for one with no access to Twitter, what's the hub bub, bub?

I don't Twitter either, but you can read it all via the link up above...
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