Forgers admit Thematics being a hobby on their own!

TonyLB · July 17, 2007, 10:15:23 AM

Quote from: SettembriniConsider and ponder, and embrace my superiour insight.

Alas, I won´t be able to read your reply, though.

Alas! We had the chance to embrace his wisdom when he was with us, but now he is gone ... GONE! And we can never get him back! :flop:

So, yeah, some people think that if they exclude others from their group then it makes their group greater. Which is ... funky math. You don't increase anything by taking things away. But the urge is strong.

Two jews are rescued from a desert island after being stranded for years. One of the rescuers asks "Why is it that, between the two of you, you built three synagogues?" One of the castaways immediately responds "Oh, we needed three. One for me to go to. One for him to go to. And one that neither one of us would be caught dead going to."

Ian Absentia · July 17, 2007, 10:22:11 AM

Quote from: SettembriniMy deep insight has finally reached the Forgers!

Hunh. So we can now comfortably lump you into the same camp of over-analytical shitheads. If that's what you want.

!i!

Settembrini · July 17, 2007, 10:24:38 AM

No, my intricate knowledge and intellect are too great to be lumped with these wannabes.

arminius · July 17, 2007, 10:30:40 AM

Quote from: Kyle AaronMuddled mumbling and sloppy semantics

Irony!

You like to go on about the excluded middle. There's a complementary fallacy, which is the belief that if there are no absolutes, then everything is the same.

The rhetoric of separation should be scrutinized; however, it isn't always because of a need to feel superior. Although the fear of being labeled inferior is probably what drives some opposition to separation. However separation can be valuable to all parties by helping to focus ideas around various common grounds.

Ian Absentia · July 17, 2007, 10:30:48 AM

Quote from: SettembriniNo, my intricate knowledge and intellect are too great to be lumped with these wannabes.

So, what you really want is to reside within your own discrete camp of shitheaded over-analysis, satisfied that, through parallel evolution of over-analysis, they arrived at the same shitheaded conclusion as you.

Okay. Either way, you're exulting over the fact that someone whose opinion you don't respect shares the same opinion as yourself.

!i!

Settembrini · July 17, 2007, 10:34:54 AM

I respect Frank T. (except his cultural relativism regarding occult beliefs, but that´s another story), why do you think otherwise?

Besides: haven´t they told you? I´m brilliant!

Caesar Slaad · July 17, 2007, 10:42:25 AM

Quote from: Some Forge GuyI repeated saying that evening that both are totally different hobbies.

I so don't buy this. Some people may play the game different than me, but some play it a little different and some play it a lot different.

It's a continuum, not a dichotomy, and I don't see this arbitrary wall-drawing as especially helpful.

I guess that's my fundamental problem with forge theory. I totally buy that people get different things out of gaming. I totally[/i] do not buy that "never the twain shall they meet."

flyingmice · July 17, 2007, 10:43:14 AM

Quote from: Caesar SlaadI so don't buy this. Some people may play the game different than me, but some play it a little different and some play it a lot different.

It's a continuum, not a dichotomy, and I don't see this arbitrary wall-drawing as especially helpful.

I guess that's my fundamental problem with forge theory. I totally buy that people get different things out of gaming. I totally[/i] do not buy that "never the twain shall they meet."

Bingo!

-clash

David R · July 17, 2007, 10:47:20 AM

Quote from: Elliot WilenThe rhetoric of separation should be scrutinized; however, it isn't always because of a need to feel superior. Although the fear of being labeled inferior is probably what drives some opposition to separation. However separation can be valuable to all parties by helping to focus ideas around various common grounds.

I'm normally onboard the Elliot express but all this sounds rather...twee. Maybe it would help if you weren't posting in the same vicinity of Sett whose motives are suspect.

Regards,
David R

droog · July 17, 2007, 10:55:08 AM

Quote from: Caesar SlaadI guess that's my fundamental problem with forge theory. I totally buy that people get different things out of gaming. I totally[/i] do not buy that "never the twain shall they meet."

Can I just make the point that this is not 'Forge theory'? This is the off-the-cuff opinion of one guy.

Skyrock · July 17, 2007, 11:05:06 AM

Set, you know as well as me that Frank T isn't a prime example of a typical Forgeboy. He always kept always quite a bit of critical distance to the theories, he re-shaped those truths, he doesn't stick to Thematic gaming, and of course I'm pretty sure that your different-hobby-thesis on the German blogosphere had some influence on him.

Ian Absentia · July 17, 2007, 11:11:14 AM

Quote from: SettembriniI respect Frank T. (except his cultural relativism regarding occult beliefs, but that´s another story), why do you think otherwise?

I was a little unclear -- by "someone whose opinion you don't respect" I was referring to The Forge as a whole, much as you referred to The Forge as a whole by way of the singular quote you provided.

So, apparently this thread should be retitled "Frank T. admits Thematics being a hobby on its own!" The fact remains, though, that you seem desperate for the approval of a collective group of gamers whom you regularly dismiss and openly dislike.

!i!

droog · July 17, 2007, 11:12:36 AM

It's a love-hate thing.

Settembrini · July 17, 2007, 11:17:08 AM

QuoteThe fact remains, though, that you seem desperate for the approval of a collective group of gamers whom you regularly dismiss and openly dislike.

The only one wo comes over desperate are you guys, who like to wallow in your mediocrity and boredom of level-headedness.

BTW, Ron also openly admitted and confessed his mono-cultured aproach to RPGs.

See? They can´t be speaking for all RPGs.
Now they lost any credibility for their former claim.
Actually they forfeited their claim.
They stopped claiming altogether.

That´s what this is about.

Henceforth, when someone interrupts meaningful conversation, he can be pointed to the proof of schism: "Here, my little friend, is the utterance that clearly delineates the subject of the Forge. It has fuck to do with our pastime. Please stop now."

droog · July 17, 2007, 11:21:16 AM

I wouldn't dream of trying to get narrativism in your gamism, Sett.