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Forge Games- Having it both ways

Started by gleichman, August 31, 2007, 10:52:41 AM

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walkerp

Quote from: fifth_childIf you feel like you or your friends were insulted at the Forge, I'm not going to argue with your experience.  Something tells me nobody called you a fuckwad or said that you deserve to be strangled, though.

No shortage of keyboard courage here on therpgsite, that's for sure.
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Consonant Dude

Quote from: fifth_childSo, I'm here to answer any actual questions about Poison'd, its text and mechanics, etc.

Did you actually play that one or are you going to make up stuff as usual?

Because you know, no matter how cool or edgy you think you are when you describe games you've never played, you actually do everyone a disservice when you do that.
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James J Skach

Quote from: fifth_childIf you feel like you or your friends were insulted at the Forge, I'm not going to argue with your experience.  Something tells me nobody called you a fuckwad or said that you deserve to be strangled, though.
Did someone say that to you here? I didn't see that. Or are you talking about how we deal with each other. If that's it, perhaps Kyle can give you a 1000 word essay on how it's really just like pissing at each other in a pub (or some other quaint Australian saying).

I mean, walker and I have exchanged some pretty heated words.  And here we are having yet another protracted conversation about this shit.

And I honestly don't recall anyone being told they should be strangled - but I wouldn't put it past Pundy...

So, it's a shame you can't stay - but if all you're here to do is push the game, your loss.
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walkerp

Quote from: Consonant DudeDid you actually play that one or are you going to make up stuff as usual?

Because you know, no matter how cool or edgy you think you are when you describe games you've never played, you actually do everyone a disservice when you do that.

I really don't think you can bring that card into play.  Nobody on this thread has played the game.
"The difference between being fascinated with RPGs and being fascinated with the RPG industry is akin to the difference between being fascinated with sex and being fascinated with masturbation. Not that there\'s anything wrong with jerking off, but don\'t fool yourself into thinking you\'re getting laid." —Aos

Alnag

Quote from: J Arcane...I'm becoming ever more of the opinion that he's really on to something here.

Oh yeah. Last unconquered teritorry almost virgin. Not raped yet. That must be set right. Or wrong, it depends. Anyway, the sudden invasion and the amount of "admitted" lurkers is amazing. This site is more influential than one might think at first glance...
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Consonant Dude

Quote from: walkerpI really don't think you can bring that card into play.  Nobody on this thread has played the game.

The reason I'm bringing this up is that fifth_child does have a history of lying about his actual experience and exposure to RPGs.

So if he claims he is ready "to answer any actual questions about Poison'd, its text and mechanics" he better damn well do a better job than he did with Universalis. His brand of bullshit can fly on RPG.net, where it's ok to lie and you can't be called on it but here, I'm not going to let it go so easily.
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fifth_child

Quote from: Consonant DudeDid you actually play that one or are you going to make up stuff as usual?

Because you know, no matter how cool or edgy you think you are when you describe games you've never played, you actually do everyone a disservice when you do that.
I already said I haven't played Poison'd yet, though I might this weekend.  If you're talking about the slip-up I made that you've so graciously kept alive as your signature, I have actually played a number of sessions of Universalis, including a couple with some people who'd never played anything but D&D before.  (One of them liked it, one of them didn't.)

I can list what games I own, and which of them I haven't played, if you'd like.
 

fifth_child

Quote from: Consonant DudeThe reason I'm bringing this up is that fifth_child does have a history of lying about his actual experience and exposure to RPGs.

So if he claims he is ready "to answer any actual questions about Poison'd, its text and mechanics" he better damn well do a better job than he did with Universalis. His brand of bullshit can fly on RPG.net, where it's ok to lie and you can't be called on it but here, I'm not going to let it go so easily.
There isn't really anything I can do to convince you that I'm not lying, so this seems like a pointless direction to take the conversation in.  Believe me or not, whichever you prefer.

I do have the Poison'd pdf open on my desktop as we speak, so I can assure you that any answers I give will be textually correct, at least.
 

fifth_child

Quote from: James J SkachDid someone say that to you here? I didn't see that. Or are you talking about how we deal with each other. If that's it, perhaps Kyle can give you a 1000 word essay on how it's really just like pissing at each other in a pub (or some other quaint Australian saying).

I mean, walker and I have exchanged some pretty heated words.  And here we are having yet another protracted conversation about this shit.

And I honestly don't recall anyone being told they should be strangled - but I wouldn't put it past Pundy...

So, it's a shame you can't stay - but if all you're here to do is push the game, your loss.
Well, Erik said I should be strangled earlier in this thread.  I don't hold it against him, though - lots of people have deranged fantasies about murdering people they've never met. ;) (Just kidding - seriously, if it bothered me, I wouldn't have come here, or at least I'd probably have put him on my ignore list.)

The fuckwad thing was something I believe Pundit said in the thread about Story-Game sabotage.  Maybe "fuckwad" wasn't the exact word.  Anyway, I took part in the thread he was talking about at SG, so obviously whatever insults were used included me in them.

Anyway, it's your call whether you think I'm pushing Poison'd.  I was trying to be as direct as possible about the mechanics and what they do - you're free to draw your own conclusions, as always.

I honestly don't know whether I'll stick around here very much.  Depends on my mood, I suppose.
 

walkerp

Quote from: AlnagAnyway, the sudden invasion and the amount of "admitted" lurkers is amazing. This site is more influential than one might think at first glance...

Stay frosty, people.  They could be anywhere, anyone, lurking among us...
"The difference between being fascinated with RPGs and being fascinated with the RPG industry is akin to the difference between being fascinated with sex and being fascinated with masturbation. Not that there\'s anything wrong with jerking off, but don\'t fool yourself into thinking you\'re getting laid." —Aos

Erik Boielle

QuoteAnyway, the sudden invasion and the amount of "admitted" lurkers is amazing. This site is more influential than one might think at first glance...

Sgood innit. Sbeen up to 50 odd viewing. Doesn't reach much over 20 normally.
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Sweeney

Quote from: AlnagAnyway, the sudden invasion and the amount of "admitted" lurkers is amazing. This site is more influential than one might think at first glance...

As one of those lurkers for the last couple of days, I went ahead and registered to respond to this.

Yes, there are a lot of people reading this thread after it got linked over on RPGNet. As for why I've been lurking, it's not for its influential nature, but because it's like a car wreck and I can't look away. :)

So far the benefit I can see from being here would be that you can freely make personal attacks on other posters without censure. You can't do that on RPGNet, and I think that leads to a lot of passive-aggressive crap, and pages on pages of line-by-line rebuttals. It's refreshing, in a way, to see a place where people can just say "Dude, I think you're a freak, don't talk to me again." It's a way to just admit, yeah, we're not going to actually try the "calm down and discuss this" approach, because we're angry and we're gonna stay angry. That's very honest.

So yes, this place is very entertaining, but I think it suffers for being so strongly against something, rather than for something. But then, I may just be seeing that because my exposure so far is just to the really knock-down, drag-out fights around here, rather than the other threads.

If nothing else, it seems like you folks are having a lot of fun. But in the end I can't wrap my head around the idea of a discussion forum where a common response is "Well, you're one of *them*, so obviously you're wrong".
 

Sigmund

Quote from: walkerpI really don't think you can bring that card into play. Nobody on this thread has played the game.

I don't recall anyone else offering to "answer any actual questions about Poison'd, its text and mechanics, etc" either.

Edited for quoting the wrong walkerp post.
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Alnag

Quote from: SweeneySo yes, this place is very entertaining, but I think it suffers for being so strongly against something, rather than for something. But then, I may just be seeing that because my exposure so far is just to the really knock-down, drag-out fights around here, rather than the other threads.

Well... I find it entertaining and refreshing. I think that there are movements and situations in RPG community that led to frustration of some people (mine at least) and this boards is good for airing this frustration. Also there are some interesting people which is hard to meet elsewhere.

I acutally find interesting event the people I disagree with almost absolutely like fifth_child (which I want to strangle just sometimes - this in the bracket is joke, for those dumb enought not to get it :) ) so yes I like it here. On the other hand this is far from the only boards I visit regularly.

Oh and I appreciate you have registred and write. I have nothing against lurkers but I think that occassinally write something is better.
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James J Skach

Quote from: SweeneyBut in the end I can't wrap my head around the idea of a discussion forum where a common response is "Well, you're one of *them*, so obviously you're wrong".
Then you've missed the boat, friend.  We say:

"You're one of them?  Poor misguided fuckwad.  Here, let me help you understand by pointing out these three reasons why you're wrong, twit."

The fact that you don't read the points because you're convinced we think you're wrong based solely on who you are is your mistake, not mine.
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