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Food and Snacks at your RPG sessions!

Started by Benoist, June 11, 2012, 12:11:07 PM

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Benoist

#60
June 12, 2012, 02:52:04 PM
Quote from: Daedalus;548172No, you went onto that site and said "my way is right, and everyone who disagrees is an idiot" and I can see how that can rub people the wrong way.

The way you game is right for YOU and your group, but it isn't right for everyone.   Some people use gaming to game and socialize on other days.  I know plenty of people like that.  

As long as they are having fun, they are doing it right.

See, it's not even original thought. It's pretty much a copy/paste from billions of similar posts all over the gaming internet. Like the ultimate incantation of gaming morons scattered throughout forums everywhere "you onetrueway! One trueway! Onetrueway!" Come to me when you have something to say that comes from you, not from what the PC told you to think.

Daedalus

#61
June 12, 2012, 02:57:58 PM
Quote from: Benoist;548177See, it's not even original thought. It's pretty much a copy/paste from billions of similar posts all over the gaming internet. Like the ultimate incantation of gaming morons scattered throughout forums everywhere "you onetrueway! One trueway! Onetrueway!" Come to me when you have something to say that comes from you, not from what the PC told you to think.

I see you have a problem with the post because you can't come up with an actual answer.  Because you know it's right and you argument is bankrupt.

I see my conversation with you is done.  I will be off to talk to people who have the actual intellect to have an adult conversation

Sacrosanct

#62
June 12, 2012, 02:58:20 PM
Quote from: Benoist;548177See, it's not even original thought. It's pretty much a copy/paste from billions of similar posts all over the gaming internet. Like the ultimate incantation of gaming morons scattered throughout forums everywhere "you onetrueway! One trueway! Onetrueway!" Come to me when you have something to say that comes from you, not from what the PC told you to think.

Look, you know I agree with your particular playstyle as one that I prefer as well.  But I gotta tell ya, sometimes you do come off as acting like your (and mine) preferred playstyles are the only "right" way to do things.

So I gotta agree with him on this one.  He's making a very valid claim here (everyone has different ways they like to play), and you're dismissing it with an ad hominem.

Just say'n
D&D is not an "everyone gets a ribbon" game.  If you\'re stupid, your PC will die.  If you\'re an asshole, your PC will die (probably from the other PCs).  If you\'re unlucky, your PC may die.  Point?  PC\'s die.  Get over it and roll up a new one.

Benoist

#63
June 12, 2012, 03:01:46 PM
"Ad hominem" is another one of those memes bandied around. It's not discourse.

What we've got here is basically two ways to understand the concept of gaming: in one case, the people and the socialization aspect of gaming come first, and the details of the game (setting and system) are secondary to that. In the other case, people and the social aspects of gaming are secondary to the setting and system the game uses. The game's itself the thing. The people are proxies, tools to get a "game fix".

I'm sorry, but I'm not backing down at all from this: if the game comes first, and the people second, you got a problem. You need help.

Sacrosanct

#64
June 12, 2012, 03:06:27 PM
Quote from: Benoist;548185"Ad hominem" is another one of those memes bandied around. It's not discourse..

It's not a meme, it's what you did.  He made a comment to support his argument, and you attacked him personally for it with nothing to address the actual argument he was making.

I'm not trying to be a dick here. I actually like a lot of what you post.  But in this case, you're coming off like someone pissed in your cheerios.
D&D is not an "everyone gets a ribbon" game.  If you\'re stupid, your PC will die.  If you\'re an asshole, your PC will die (probably from the other PCs).  If you\'re unlucky, your PC may die.  Point?  PC\'s die.  Get over it and roll up a new one.

Benoist

#65
June 12, 2012, 03:08:51 PM
Nevermind. The ones who are not putting a single relevant counter-argument forward are you guys. What you are doing is politically correct bullshit, basically telling me I don't have a right to disagree with somebody, and that it's wrong to imply you're being dense in waving these non-thoughts around.

Fuck you.

Actually counter my argument, for fuck's sakes.

One Horse Town

#66
June 12, 2012, 03:09:03 PM
Quote from: Sacrosanct;548188It's not a meme, it's what you did.  He made a comment to support his argument, and you attacked him personally for it with nothing to address the actual argument he was making.

I'm not trying to be a dick here. I actually like a lot of what you post.  But in this case, you're coming off like someone pissed in your cheerios.

Welcome to the RPGsite!

Exploderwizard

#67
June 12, 2012, 03:09:43 PM
Quote from: Benoist;548185"Ad hominem" is another one of those memes bandied around. It's not discourse.

What we've got here is basically two ways to understand the concept of gaming: in one case, the people and the socialization aspect of gaming come first, and the details of the game (setting and system) are secondary to that. In the other case, people and the social aspects of gaming are secondary to the setting and system the game uses. The game's itself the thing. The people are proxies, tools to get a "game fix".

I'm sorry, but I'm not backing down at all from this: if the game comes first, and the people second, you got a problem. You need help.


I don't think de-emphasizing the importance of snacks equates to putting game before people or socialization.

I LOVE snacks (basically being a 6'2" hobbit) but I can see others putting the socialization ahead of the game without the fixation on food as still having their priorities fairly well in order.
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crkrueger

#68
June 12, 2012, 03:11:29 PM
Quote from: Sacrosanct;548188It's not a meme, it's what you did.  He made a comment to support his argument, and you attacked him personally for it with nothing to address the actual argument he was making.

I'm not trying to be a dick here. I actually like a lot of what you post.  But in this case, you're coming off like someone pissed in your cheerios.

Dude he's French, even thinking about dismissing the importance of food is anathema.  :D

Seriously though, the more open the table, the less likely a close social atmosphere will develop, also the older the players are, the more likely the table will be closed and thus more likely a close social atmosphere will develop.
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Benoist

#69
June 12, 2012, 03:12:38 PM
Quote from: Exploderwizard;548194I don't think de-emphasizing the importance of snacks equates to putting game before people or socialization.

I LOVE snacks (basically being a 6'2" hobbit) but I can see others putting the socialization ahead of the game without the fixation on food as still having their priorities fairly well in order.

Jesus Christ YES! An ACTUAL fucking argument.

I acknowledge that for you that might be the case, but for me food and drink are part of the act of socialization. And I do think it's wrong to see games as some type of job you go to that it's got to be this "down to business" affair. It's a game. It's meant to be enjoyed together. It's not a job.

IMO YMMV whatever.

Daedalus

#70
June 12, 2012, 03:16:00 PM
Quote from: Benoist;548185I'm sorry, but I'm not backing down at all from this: if the game comes first, and the people second, you got a problem. You need help.

I have to correct you here, no one put gaming before people.  They just disagreed that snacks were important.

It's ok to have a position that is different then another person, but make sure your position is against what they are saying.

Benoist

#71
June 12, 2012, 03:23:13 PM
Quote from: Daedalus;548200I have to correct you here, no one put gaming before people.  They just disagreed that snacks were important.

It's ok to have a position that is different then another person, but make sure your position is against what they are saying.

They're not understanding what snacks stand for here.

Daedalus

#72
June 12, 2012, 03:27:26 PM
Quote from: Benoist;548202They're not understanding what snacks stand for here.

Snacks are just food.  I can eat them at games, before games, after games.  They just aren't important to him and as he pointed out he games, everyone has fun and he has people who actually wish they can join his game.

Obviously, it can be done without snacks.  He does and is very successful.  If he wasn't, people wouldn't stay in his games.

Benoist

#73
June 12, 2012, 03:29:27 PM
Sorry for blowing steam off guys. It's just that the "onetrueway" this and the "ad hominem" that are really starting to annoy the hell out of me. This is mindless virtual bumper sticker bullshit, like the "I'm with D&D, all editions" and all that garbage that just attempts to kill dissent. That really rubs me the wrong way today.

Benoist

#74
June 12, 2012, 03:30:39 PM
Quote from: Daedalus;548205Snacks are just food.
Man, did you just say that to a Frenchman? :jaw-dropping:
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