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Folks "Selling You" On A Game--What Works, And What's Annoying

Started by Zachary The First, August 27, 2007, 11:30:23 PM

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Calithena

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John Morrow

Quote from: CalithenaSpirit of the Century could totally do that, John.

That reminds me of the worst case, which I had forgotten.

"I want a crunchy realistic system with a comprehensive equipment list and a historical overview section to run a standard Western. I've already evaluated Spirit of the Century and decided that it isn't what I want.  What should I use?"

Then someone replies with...

Spirit of the Century
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flyingmice

Quote from: John MorrowThat reminds me of the worst case, which I had forgotten.

"I want a crunchy realistic system with a comprehensive equipment list and a historical overview section to run a standard Western. I've already evaluated Spirit fo the Century and decided that it isn't what I want.  What should I use?"

Then someone replies with...

Spirit of the Century

Read that one! :D

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The Yann Waters

Quote from: James McMurray
  • An introductory adventure. I'd much rather read through a short adventure and then try it out with my group then shuffle through pages of peoples' opinions on it. If Nobilis had an intro adventure, I'd probably have played it at least once.
Hmm. That's slightly curious, since the game does come with thirty pages of a campaign set-up meant for new players: Treachery, in which the PCs find themselves appointed as Inquisitors in charge of tracking down and investigating various supernatural creatures which have betrayed Creation. For a one-shot, you could just run the part about rebuilding the Temple of Inquisition, or skip straight to the battle between Ada Willamette and Nephele Nikolaidhis on the Day of Broken Wings, or even use one of the scenarios outlined for later, like "Slippery Slopes", "Justify Your Existence", or "Second Eden."
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James J Skach

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One Horse Town

Quote from: James J SkachOne hour, nineteen minutes....

He's slacking. :D  I think GrimGent is the noble of 'Mentions of Nobilis' Must be a lonely job.

The Yann Waters

Quote from: One Horse TownHe's slacking. :D  I think GrimGent is the noble of 'Mentions of Nobilis' Must be a lonely job.
Hey, I can't keep an eye on this forum all the time: that wouldn't leave me any time to watch for messages about Nob at other sites, too.
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James J Skach

Quote from: GrimGentHey, I can't keep an eye on this forum all the time: that wouldn't leave me any time to watch for messages about Nob at other sites, too.
you're the god of Mentions of Noblis - how hard can that be.
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The Yann Waters

Quote from: James J Skachyou're the god of Mentions of Noblis - how hard can that be.
Well, it's just a Lesser Divination, so a Viscount or someone with a higher rank (a Noble with Domain 2+, that is) could pull that off effortlessly, as a simple miracle. For Baronets (Domain 1), it would require a normal miracle (and so cost a miracle point); and for Pawns (Domain 0), it would take a hard miracle and two points. Influencing something that takes place more than a hundred miles away would usually drain an additional point, but that's not a problem with anything on the Internet unless you really are that far from the entire network (and divinations are an exception to that, anyway).

Not that the Estates are ever that narrowly defined, but still, that's how hard it would be: difficulty 2.
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Gunslinger

I think only person that's ever sold me on an RPG was a gamestore clerk in Pittsburgh when I was taking a look at Mutants and Masterminds.  He told me to take a look at Champions and compare the two.  Other than that, I've always just wandered around and picked up what interests me.
 

James McMurray

Quote from: GrimGentHmm. That's slightly curious, since the game does come with thirty pages of a campaign set-up meant for new players: Treachery, in which the PCs find themselves appointed as Inquisitors in charge of tracking down and investigating various supernatural creatures which have betrayed Creation. For a one-shot, you could just run the part about rebuilding the Temple of Inquisition, or skip straight to the battle between Ada Willamette and Nephele Nikolaidhis on the Day of Broken Wings, or even use one of the scenarios outlined for later, like "Slippery Slopes", "Justify Your Existence", or "Second Eden."

Sorry, what I meant was more something that I can download without even needing the book, that encapsulates all the rules needed to play it including pregenerated PCs and a layout of what each character can do. The adventure should be short, sweet, and fairly linear since the goal is to learn about the game. It should also hopefully be very thematically tied to the game itself. In other words, it should be aimed at selling the system wrapped in the setting.

Those three you mention don't fit the bill. For instance (I didn't reread them all, just this one): Slippery Slopes is not an adventure. It's an adventure seed involving three paragraphs of ideas. It even requires the GM to formulate "a subtle, ironic plan of revenge" for one of the NPCs. That's way too much work for an intro.

Calithena

Also, all that stuff in Nobilis you could totally do better with the Hero System anyway.
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James J Skach

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James McMurray

Add "I mention a game and someone says 'X is better'" to my list, whether they're being facetious or not. :)

Koltar

Quote from: James McMurrayAdd "I mention a game and someone says 'X is better'" to my list, whether they're being facetious or not. :)


....and suddenly I hear that old Talking Heads song playing and the words change to : "I got game, friend ..thats better than that .... nothing can be better than this..."


 "Stop Making Sense.."

"Stop making sense..."



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