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First look at WOTC Virtual Table top

Started by GhostNinja, April 03, 2023, 12:15:06 PM

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Zelen

#60
April 04, 2023, 06:53:23 PM
In my experience, the more sophisticated a VTT is, the more burdensome it is for the GM. That's a big problem if you want to actually get more people running games.

I don't want to have to build a 3D model of an Inn every time I want to use one. And I don't want every Inn to look the same. In a certain way the visuals really detract from the experience, whereas before you could just use a few words and describe the scene.

rytrasmi

#61
April 04, 2023, 07:11:43 PM
Quote from: Zelen on April 04, 2023, 06:53:23 PM
In my experience, the more sophisticated a VTT is, the more burdensome it is for the GM. That's a big problem if you want to actually get more people running games.

I don't want to have to build a 3D model of an Inn every time I want to use one. And I don't want every Inn to look the same. In a certain way the visuals really detract from the experience, whereas before you could just use a few words and describe the scene.
This is a really good point. They are competing with a 30 second improvisation by the GM. Asset Pack 73 - Rural Inn is going to lose on prep time as well as vividness and uniqueness if you have a half decent GM.

It's D&D for people who don't like D&D.
The worms crawl in and the worms crawl out
The ones that crawl in are lean and thin
The ones that crawl out are fat and stout
Your eyes fall in and your teeth fall out
Your brains come tumbling down your snout
Be merry my friends
Be merry

Cola

#62
April 04, 2023, 07:14:25 PM
I have invested heavily in miniatures and have made a lot of terrain including a modular foam dungeon. 

This is not sour grapes—-but I prefer a physical layout or even theater of the mind (well with at least a map and tokens).

This is not my bag...

Grognard GM

#63
April 04, 2023, 07:14:49 PM
Quote from: rytrasmi on April 04, 2023, 07:11:43 PMIt's D&D for people who don't like D&D.

Yeah, they already said it was 5E compatible.
I'm a middle aged guy with a lot of free time, looking for similar, to form a group for regular gaming. You should be chill, non-woke, and have time on your hands.

See below:

https://www.therpgsite.com/news-and-adverts/looking-to-form-a-group-of-people-with-lots-of-spare-time-for-regular-games/

GhostNinja

#64
April 04, 2023, 11:36:01 PM
Quote from: Grognard GM on April 04, 2023, 07:14:49 PM
Quote from: rytrasmi on April 04, 2023, 07:11:43 PMIt's D&D for people who don't like D&D.

Yeah, they already said it was 5E compatible.

I missed this.  Where did they say it would work with 5e?
Ghostninja

Grognard GM

#65
April 05, 2023, 01:19:19 AM
Quote from: GhostNinja on April 04, 2023, 11:36:01 PM
Quote from: Grognard GM on April 04, 2023, 07:14:49 PM
Quote from: rytrasmi on April 04, 2023, 07:11:43 PMIt's D&D for people who don't like D&D.

Yeah, they already said it was 5E compatible.

I missed this.  Where did they say it would work with 5e?

They've always said it's compatible. They may well be lying, and even if not, I guarantee they'll change it till it's unusable with 5E within a few years; but they've said it.
I'm a middle aged guy with a lot of free time, looking for similar, to form a group for regular gaming. You should be chill, non-woke, and have time on your hands.

See below:

https://www.therpgsite.com/news-and-adverts/looking-to-form-a-group-of-people-with-lots-of-spare-time-for-regular-games/

GhostNinja

#66
April 05, 2023, 08:47:43 AM
Quote from: Grognard GM on April 05, 2023, 01:19:19 AM

They've always said it's compatible. They may well be lying, and even if not, I guarantee they'll change it till it's unusable with 5E within a few years; but they've said it.

WOTC Lie?  Never!   ::)

Thanks for the information
Ghostninja

Omega

#67
April 05, 2023, 12:28:01 PM
Quote from: rytrasmi on April 03, 2023, 03:46:25 PM
Well fuck me, I've been extricating props from my games because they're fussy, they get in the way, and they stifle the imagination, and here we have a set up that is 90% props.

You can't sell imagination, so I see why someone would make this ($$$).

Also, who the hell wants to gather around in person to stare at their individual screens? I do that for work and now I gotta do it for fun? No thanks.

.

Consensus is that they just had everyone present for convenience and what they were INEPTLY trying to show was that it can network and you can play from laptop.

One of my players commented that it looks like it will need some heavy processing to get that level of fidelity.

So wotc as usual somehow, some way, fucking things up. Failure is the only option.

rytrasmi

#68
April 05, 2023, 12:39:54 PM
Quote from: Omega on April 05, 2023, 12:28:01 PM
Consensus is that they just had everyone present for convenience and what they were INEPTLY trying to show was that it can network and you can play from laptop.

One of my players commented that it looks like it will need some heavy processing to get that level of fidelity.

So wotc as usual somehow, some way, fucking things up. Failure is the only option.
"Inept" is accurate considering remote play is THE market for VTTs. And yet they couldn't be arsed to have even one player be remote.

"We invented a new soft drink! In our big reveal video we will be washing cats with it!"
The worms crawl in and the worms crawl out
The ones that crawl in are lean and thin
The ones that crawl out are fat and stout
Your eyes fall in and your teeth fall out
Your brains come tumbling down your snout
Be merry my friends
Be merry

GeekyBugle

#69
April 05, 2023, 12:43:40 PM
Quote from: rytrasmi on April 05, 2023, 12:39:54 PM
Quote from: Omega on April 05, 2023, 12:28:01 PM
Consensus is that they just had everyone present for convenience and what they were INEPTLY trying to show was that it can network and you can play from laptop.

One of my players commented that it looks like it will need some heavy processing to get that level of fidelity.

So wotc as usual somehow, some way, fucking things up. Failure is the only option.
"Inept" is accurate considering remote play is THE market for VTTs. And yet they couldn't be arsed to have even one player be remote.

"We invented a new soft drink! In our big reveal video we will be washing cats with it!"

OR , it can't network yet and they are so stupid as to not be able to fake it.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

rytrasmi

#70
April 05, 2023, 12:48:02 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on April 05, 2023, 12:43:40 PM
Quote from: rytrasmi on April 05, 2023, 12:39:54 PM
Quote from: Omega on April 05, 2023, 12:28:01 PM
Consensus is that they just had everyone present for convenience and what they were INEPTLY trying to show was that it can network and you can play from laptop.

One of my players commented that it looks like it will need some heavy processing to get that level of fidelity.

So wotc as usual somehow, some way, fucking things up. Failure is the only option.
"Inept" is accurate considering remote play is THE market for VTTs. And yet they couldn't be arsed to have even one player be remote.

"We invented a new soft drink! In our big reveal video we will be washing cats with it!"

OR , it can't network yet and they are so stupid as to not be able to fake it.

Now THAT would be funny AND inept. I know teenagers who could've edited their video to fake a remote play.
The worms crawl in and the worms crawl out
The ones that crawl in are lean and thin
The ones that crawl out are fat and stout
Your eyes fall in and your teeth fall out
Your brains come tumbling down your snout
Be merry my friends
Be merry

GhostNinja

#71
April 05, 2023, 01:16:57 PM
Quote from: Omega on April 05, 2023, 12:28:01 PM
Consensus is that they just had everyone present for convenience and what they were INEPTLY trying to show was that it can network and you can play from laptop.

One of my players commented that it looks like it will need some heavy processing to get that level of fidelity.

So wotc as usual somehow, some way, fucking things up. Failure is the only option.

I mean seriously.  Does anyone believe that the people in that video weren't actors?
Ghostninja

GeekyBugle

#72
April 05, 2023, 01:21:58 PM
Quote from: GhostNinja on April 05, 2023, 01:16:57 PM
Quote from: Omega on April 05, 2023, 12:28:01 PM
Consensus is that they just had everyone present for convenience and what they were INEPTLY trying to show was that it can network and you can play from laptop.

One of my players commented that it looks like it will need some heavy processing to get that level of fidelity.

So wotc as usual somehow, some way, fucking things up. Failure is the only option.

I mean seriously.  Does anyone believe that the people in that video weren't actors?

Besides all the people who think that Critical Role is totally not scripted even a little bit and then performed for the cameras?
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

GhostNinja

#73
April 05, 2023, 01:23:50 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on April 05, 2023, 01:21:58 PM

Besides all the people who think that Critical Role is totally not scripted even a little bit and then performed for the cameras?

You have to be blind not to know that Critical Role is totally scripted.

As a wise philosopher named Ron White said:  "You can't fix stupid"

Ghostninja

Grognard GM

#74
April 05, 2023, 03:13:52 PM
Quote from: GhostNinja on April 05, 2023, 01:23:50 PM
As a wise philosopher named Ron White said:  "You can't fix stupid"

I tried telling this to an SJW, but they just called me Tater Salad  :-[
I'm a middle aged guy with a lot of free time, looking for similar, to form a group for regular gaming. You should be chill, non-woke, and have time on your hands.

See below:

https://www.therpgsite.com/news-and-adverts/looking-to-form-a-group-of-people-with-lots-of-spare-time-for-regular-games/
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