Gang, if anything proves how mainstream RPGs are, then this product (https://www.feastoflegends.com/?fbclid=IwAR3nTIdvAFcFowTu6Cz313JH845zUfXzg3tLyat8sVn6LqiePGIT40B5-J0) does the job. Behold an RPG advertising wonder from Wendy's fast food restaurant.
Lol. I skimmed through the PDF.
It was quite a read!
A very snack food themed fantasy RPG.
I'm at a loss for words...
I'm hungry now...
Quote from: moonsweeper;1107459I'm at a loss for words...
If you think Kingdom of Loathing is funny, this is going to be right up your alley.
I do, and it is.
If you (the player) are eating Wendys food, your PC gets a bonus. If you eat Other Fast Food, your PC gets a penalty.
Quote from: Thornhammer;1107482If you (the player) are eating Wendys food, your PC gets a bonus. If you eat Other Fast Food, your PC gets a penalty.
Well obviously...I think I saw those rules somewhere in the PDF! :D
Quote from: danskmacabre;1107458Lol. I skimmed through the PDF.
It was quite a read!
A very snack food themed fantasy RPG.
Surprisingly well written and laid out.
Reminds me of the birthday event in DragonFable where all the food is brought to life as ravening monsters.
I notice that there are no author or editor credits. Or credits at all that I could find other than at the ends for the artist and map maker.
Quote from: Omega;1107487Surprisingly well written and laid out.
Yes, I agree. It even has a series of scenarios in the GMs section.
I had a good laugh at the classes and races.. heh.
I guess this is a good thing for the hobby???
Yeah us??
United Clown Nations & the Ice Jester = McDonalds
Creepingvale = ?
Quote from: S'mon;1107526United Clown Nations & the Ice Jester = McDonalds
Creepingvale = ?
I'm guessing Burger King because of all of the 'creepy' snea-King ads they did a few years back.
edit: Ice Jester may be Dairy Queen
Zeeeero interest in this one
Not a bad entry in the hobby at all. Which just further goes to show that the bar is pretty low if a company can produce a pretty good rpg as a joke/ad.
Quote from: BedrockBrendan;1107543Zeeeero interest in this one
Why not? You have to admit that it is gonzo gaming at its most refined.
Quote from: jeff37923;1107545Why not? You have to admit that it is gonzo gaming at its most refined.
Because it is a Wendy's commercial. I'm just not interested in an RPG put out by Wendy's and the whole concept just seems a bit too much. There is Gonzo, then there is eating wendy's power up meals. I just cannot take this seriously and I really don't understand why people have any interest in it.
Quote from: BedrockBrendan;1107549I just cannot take this seriously...
Whoosh
Quote from: Rhedyn;1107555Whoosh
I can't take it humorously either Rhedyn.
The saddest thing about all this is realizing the hobby is filled with Wendy's IP fanboys. Wendy's was always my favorite fast food place, but I never once had an itch for a Wendy's RPG. And if someone has a good RPG in them, I think cramming it into a Wendy's concept would only make it worse. What I've seen of it though is pretty mediocre. And the jokes are not exactly funny either. Just not getting why people are so into this one.
Not something I would ever run r play. If it gets more people into the hobby so much the better.
Quote from: BedrockBrendan;1107559I can't take it humorously either Rhedyn.
The saddest thing about all this is realizing the hobby is filled with Wendy's IP fanboys. Wendy's was always my favorite fast food place, but I never once had an itch for a Wendy's RPG. And if someone has a good RPG in them, I think cramming it into a Wendy's concept would only make it worse. What I've seen of it though is pretty mediocre. And the jokes are not exactly funny either. Just not getting why people are so into this one.
I'm trying to think of one thing I hold sacred enough that I would not find a Wendy's parody amusing.
Quote from: sureshot;1107562Not something I would ever run r play. If it gets more people into the hobby so much the better.
Agreed, only way it could be a better gateway into the hobby is if they made it 2d6 or 3d6 based, this would lower the entry point price to almost zero.
My buddy texted me about it earlier this morning and said a bunch of SJWs were protesting on Twitter, that people are talking about this instead of supporting indie publishers, Wendy's supports Trump, Wendy's doesn't pay their workers a living wage...and then we have BedrockBrendan acting like it's the fucking apocalypse that this thing even exists.
I looked it over, and honestly, this thing is highly playable. It's basically a parody, but 1) it has high production values, and 2) it's free. So what's the gripe? Anyone complaining has zero sense of humor.
Quote from: BedrockBrendan;1107549Because it is a Wendy's commercial. I'm just not interested in an RPG put out by Wendy's and the whole concept just seems a bit too much. There is Gonzo, then there is eating wendy's power up meals. I just cannot take this seriously and I really don't understand why people have any interest in it.
Quote from: BedrockBrendan;1107559I can't take it humorously either Rhedyn.
The saddest thing about all this is realizing the hobby is filled with Wendy's IP fanboys. Wendy's was always my favorite fast food place, but I never once had an itch for a Wendy's RPG. And if someone has a good RPG in them, I think cramming it into a Wendy's concept would only make it worse. What I've seen of it though is pretty mediocre. And the jokes are not exactly funny either. Just not getting why people are so into this one.
I can understand it if this commercial parody doesn't tickle your funny bone, but the level of disgust you are showing is kind of disturbing.
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Quote from: Brad;1107570..and then we have BedrockBrendan acting like it's the fucking apocalypse that this thing even exists.
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I just think it is stupid.
It's pretty amusing. The debuff "if you eat gas station food, -2 to intelligence rolls for the day" got a chuckle out of me. It's clear that some thought went into this, I found the weapons listings, adventures/locations and monsters pretty fun to read. The classes are pretty decent too.
I'd never run this myself, but it appears to be a functional game and I could see maybe running this for young kids or something if they gave out print copies for free (or cheap). It's sort of the RPG version of those coloring pads + crayons they offer at restaurants.
Quote from: Brad;1107570My buddy texted me about it earlier this morning and said a bunch of SJWs were protesting on Twitter, that people are talking about this instead of supporting indie publishers, Wendy's supports Trump, Wendy's doesn't pay their workers a living wage...and then we have BedrockBrendan acting like it's the fucking apocalypse that this thing even exists.
I looked it over, and honestly, this thing is highly playable. It's basically a parody, but 1) it has high production values, and 2) it's free. So what's the gripe? Anyone complaining has zero sense of humor.
SJWs have no sense of humor. This is well known.
All of their complaints are that people are daring to have
fun playing RPGs, when all wokethinking people know that RPGs are Srs Bsns.
I felt the same way about the Stranger Things version of D&D.
1. Meh.
2. Wait, how is this different from regular D&D? Are the kids in this? Is it some kind of meta-RPG where you play the kids playing D&D?
So
1. Meh.
2. Wait how is this different from a regular RPG? Is this some kind of fantasy world populated by fast food mascots? Do you play people eating fast food?
Quote from: BedrockBrendan;1107549Because it is a Wendy's commercial. I'm just not interested in an RPG put out by Wendy's and the whole concept just seems a bit too much. There is Gonzo, then there is eating wendy's power up meals. I just cannot take this seriously and I really don't understand why people have any interest in it.
Then avoid any of the other myriad of silly or parody RPGs out there.
Starfaring
Macho Women With Guns, Batwinged Bimbos from Hell, Renegade Nuns on Wheels, More Excuses to Kill Things.
Paranoia
TOON!
Creeks & Crawdads
Bullwinkle and Rocky
Crushed and SMT
And those are just some of the older ones I can recall or actually have.
Quote from: Ratman_tf;1107582Wait how is this different from a regular RPG? Is this some kind of fantasy world populated by fast food mascots? Do you play people eating fast food?
It's not different, really. But I get the sense it's meant more to be read and laughed at (and function as advertisement) than actually played. As others have mentioned, the production value is high and the art and layout is very good.
You do play people who eat fast food (healing items are various forms of lemonade and chicken nuggets), monsters abilities are food-themed (otherwise they're 'real' monsters in the sense of creatures, one of them for instance is basically an ice golem with tentacles). Weapons take the form of frying pans and etc., armor takes the form of aprons or crumpled up tin foil, class abilities are food-themed but are otherwise pretty 'normal' class features (here's your spicy chicken themed burning touch move, etc.). Basically a normal RPG dressed up and "themed." The overland map and adventures give it a sort of one-shot theme park style vibe, like a Christmas or other holiday-themed adventure intended to be used then discarded.
I don't get the appeal of the Stranger Things licensing at all. At least the Wendy's thing is sort of humorous (or at least intended to be), a Stranger Things D&D game would... just literally be D&D, right?
Quote from: Ratman_tf;11075822. Wait how is this different from a regular RPG? Is this some kind of fantasy world populated by fast food mascots? Do you play people eating fast food?
That would be 3rd Edition Cyberpunk 2020. :eek:
Just meh.
Quote from: BedrockBrendan;1107576I just think it is stupid.
It is stupid, no doubt about it. All the rest of the stuff you said is just meaningless drivel.
Quote from: Bren;1107591Just meh.
And this is a much more fair response.
They pulled off quite the feast (feat). Who wrote it?
Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;1107603They pulled off quite the feast (feat). Who wrote it?
A committee
Quote from: Rhedyn;1107609A committee
Probably Alan Smithee.
Quote from: Antiquation!;1107588I don't get the appeal of the Stranger Things licensing at all. At least the Wendy's thing is sort of humorous (or at least intended to be), a Stranger Things D&D game would... just literally be D&D, right?
https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/218573/DARK-PLACES--DEMOGORGONS--Survive-This--Core-Rule-Book-OSR-RPG?term=demog (https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/218573/DARK-PLACES--DEMOGORGONS--Survive-This--Core-Rule-Book-OSR-RPG?term=demog)
It was written by a marketing firm who's members I guess played D&D. It was a firm that Daniel Fox worked at.
https://twitter.com/ZweihanderRPG/status/1179938859276259328
This is the firm, seems a standard marketing firm
https://www.vmlyr.com/
I think the lead creator was a guy named Tony Marin.
Quote from: Snowman0147;1107624https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/218573/DARK-PLACES--DEMOGORGONS--Survive-This--Core-Rule-Book-OSR-RPG?term=demog (https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/218573/DARK-PLACES--DEMOGORGONS--Survive-This--Core-Rule-Book-OSR-RPG?term=demog)
Huh. Well, at least thematically speaking this looks different. Not sure about the prospect of a long-form campaign, but who knows.
Quote from: Brad;1107601It is stupid, no doubt about it. All the rest of the stuff you said is just meaningless drivel.
That's because you are my target audience Brad
Quote from: Omega;1107587Then avoid any of the other myriad of silly or parody RPGs out there.
Starfaring
Macho Women With Guns, Batwinged Bimbos from Hell, Renegade Nuns on Wheels, More Excuses to Kill Things.
Paranoia
TOON!
Creeks & Crawdads
Bullwinkle and Rocky
Crushed and SMT
And those are just some of the older ones I can recall or actually have.
I am fine with parody RPGs. I just think Wendy's doing one is a crap idea and it holds zero interest for me. Parody isn't the issue. It is I am not interested in a parody RPG that is a commercial for Wendy's
Quote from: BedrockBrendan;1107634That's because you are my target audience Brad
If you're going to attempt to insult someone, you think you could at least use proper grammar? Thanks.
Quote from: BedrockBrendan;1107635I am fine with parody RPGs. I just think Wendy's doing one is a crap idea and it holds zero interest for me. Parody isn't the issue. It is I am not interested in a parody RPG that is a commercial for Wendy's
But this is what you said:
QuoteBecause it is a Wendy's commercial. I'm just not interested in an RPG put out by Wendy's and the whole concept just seems a bit too much. There is Gonzo, then there is eating wendy's power up meals. I just cannot take this seriously and I really don't understand why people have any interest in it.
So if you can't take this seriously, and it's a parody, like what? Also what does zero interest for you have to do with not understanding why other people have interest in it? You probably should just stick to, "I think this is stupid," and be done with it.
Quote from: Omega;1107587Creeks & Crawdads
C&C was one of the most fun I've had playing a comedy RPG.
Highly recommended!
Quote from: Brad;1107638If you're going to attempt to insult someone, you think you could at least use proper grammar? Thanks.
But this is what you said:
So if you can't take this seriously, and it's a parody, like what? Also what does zero interest for you have to do with not understanding why other people have interest in it? You probably should just stick to, "I think this is stupid," and be done with it.
I don't know why this is so difficult for people to understand. Parody is fine, I don't like this parody. I can't take it seriously as a product. All I can do when I see it, is roll my eyes. I don't get why everyone is reacting so strongly to someone not liking it. Look, I think the concept is stupid. I think the parody is not funny. And I don't get why when you essentially say "I have no interest" people have been getting so angry over that. And I definitely don't get why people are being so literal all of a sudden. Is there some other proxy issue this has been affixed to or something. It is just an RPG put out by a fast food chain.
I think this blog has some interesting thoughts on it:
http://the-disoriented-ranger.blogspot.com/2019/10/opinion-feast-of-legends-fast-food-goes.html
Some of his thoughts resonate with my feelings about certain aspects of current hobby stuff... D&D 5e, nu-Chaosium, live-plays.
Quote from: Brad;1107638Also what does zero interest for you have to do with not understanding why other people have interest in it? You probably should just stick to, "I think this is stupid," and be done with it.
There is more context to what I am saying here. When this came out, my response across the board was the same "not interested, looks stupid". What I am not understanding is the strong reaction that sentiment got. Like I can get it if people people like it while I don't. I don't understand the the response that not liking it seemed to trigger. By the time I had posted here, I'd already fielded a number of angry responses and demands for me to show in the text of the book why it is so terrible.
The SJWs and other radicalized Democrats in the hobby are starting to hate on Wendy's now. Something to do with Trump.
Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;1107650The SJWs and other radicalized Democrats in the hobby are starting to hate on Wendy's now. Something to do with Trump.
Okay, well, that is pretty stupid too. Maybe that explains the reaction I have been encountering online. I like Wendy's food. I just don't see the point of a Wendy's RPG.
The great thing about the RPG hobby is that if official product sucks, we can make our own until they stop sucking.
Big money has been into RPGs since the beginning. See when Gary was out pimping D&D to various franchises.
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRRnkWLQCgk6nNyXmcszlHYLDbonrIpdi1_UDG-vfvxBcQGuSlZ)
And the various fast food franchises have notoriously been trying to out-hip each other on social media lately (https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2018/11/01/wendys-bk-others-grill-social-media-comedy-heats-up-sales/719249002/). This is a flash in the pan that will quickly fade.
Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;1107650The SJWs and other radicalized Democrats in the hobby are starting to hate on Wendy's now. Something to do with Trump.
Jesus fucking christ. I guess I should have expected something like that.
Quote from: Ratman_tf;1107654Jesus fucking christ. I guess I should have expected something like that.
It's like, the grognards are hating on Wendy's for their game being an advertisement and not being a real RPG set of rules. And the pink hairs are all in a bunch because of Wendy's game and politics not being their cup of tea either.
Quote from: Rhedyn;1107567I'm trying to think of one thing I hold sacred enough that I would not find a Wendy's parody amusing.
This isn't about holding anything sacred.
Quote from: jeff37923;1107571I can understand it if this commercial parody doesn't tickle your funny bone, but the level of disgust you are showing is kind of disturbing.
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I am baffled, not disgusted
This is probably the greatest satirical shot at WotC that's ever been taken...and I don't think it's intentional.
Quote from: BedrockBrendan;1107649There is more context to what I am saying here. When this came out, my response across the board was the same "not interested, looks stupid". What I am not understanding is the strong reaction that sentiment got.
It's kind of weird, but not out of character for this site.
My attitude is not far from yours Brendan. Someone in my D&D 5E game group mentioned it online. I clicked his link and saw it was an app from Wendy's and had no desire to look any further.
Quote from: Ratman_tf;1107653Big money has been into RPGs since the beginning.
Not hardly. The OD&D rules were one step above a mimeograph machine. Maybe by the mid 1980s, but that was more than 10 years after the publishing beginning.
Quote from: BedrockBrendan;1107646I don't know why this is so difficult for people to understand. Parody is fine, I don't like this parody. I can't take it seriously as a product. All I can do when I see it, is roll my eyes. I don't get why everyone is reacting so strongly to someone not liking it. Look, I think the concept is stupid. I think the parody is not funny. And I don't get why when you essentially say "I have no interest" people have been getting so angry over that. And I definitely don't get why people are being so literal all of a sudden. Is there some other proxy issue this has been affixed to or something. It is just an RPG put out by a fast food chain.
I highly suspect you're a Ronald McDonald fanbois and love those frozen burgers.
Me. This is okay, but I can't wait for the Dunkin Donuts RPG.
;-)
I too am a little puzzled at the reaction.
Have I read a 90+ page ad for Wendy's? I suppose I have (fwiw, I like Wendy's food, though it's been well over a year since I've eaten any.)
Is it fairly priced? Yes. It's free. It's so tough to hate free; I know commercials are "free" but in this case I could have stopped reading at any time.
I'm already looking into modding the adventure for my 5e group, just for fun. I might even eat some Wendy's when I run it, assuming it can be modded easily. I suppose I could rant about how the game game isn't fully fleshed out but...free.
Get a grip. Nothing wrong with not liking a commercial, but ranting is a bit much.
Quote from: Bren;1107669Not hardly. The OD&D rules were one step above a mimeograph machine. Maybe by the mid 1980s, but that was more than 10 years after the publishing beginning.
OD&D was also well before RPGs entered pop culture, which was the beginning of D&D as a phenomenon.
Quote from: DocJones;1107670This is okay, but I can't wait for the Dunkin Donuts RPG.
;-)
Dunkies would never do this
Quote from: BedrockBrendan;1107549Because it is a Wendy's commercial. I'm just not interested in an RPG put out by Wendy's and the whole concept just seems a bit too much. There is Gonzo, then there is eating wendy's power up meals. I just cannot take this seriously and I really don't understand why people have any interest in it.
1. Gaming doesn't have to be serious, and dare I say it's healthy to sometimes not take it seriously;
2. It's kinda weird to see people who rant about anti-capitalists who get tweaked about commercialism in their precious hobby.
Quote from: Mistwell;11076771. Gaming doesn't have to be serious, and dare I say it's healthy to sometimes not take it seriously;
2. It's kinda weird to see people who rant about anti-capitalists who get tweaked about commercialism in their precious hobby.
I am all for humor in gaming. I am just not digging a Wendy's RPG, and I don't think the humor is funny. My whole issue here was I merely expressed non-interest in the game, and the reaction was strong. People are holding up my reaction to the reaction as if it were my first post. All I said initially was "zeeero interest".
I don't know. Like what you like. I think a Wendy's RPG is a stupid idea.
As for 2, I don't know what that has to do with my post. I don't think I've ever said anything much about capitalism or anti-capitalism. Certainly haven't ranted about either.
Quote from: Doom;1107671I too am a little puzzled at the reaction.
Have I read a 90+ page ad for Wendy's? I suppose I have (fwiw, I like Wendy's food, though it's been well over a year since I've eaten any.)
Is it fairly priced? Yes. It's free. It's so tough to hate free; I know commercials are "free" but in this case I could have stopped reading at any time.
I'm already looking into modding the adventure for my 5e group, just for fun. I might even eat some Wendy's when I run it, assuming it can be modded easily. I suppose I could rant about how the game game isn't fully fleshed out but...free.
Get a grip. Nothing wrong with not liking a commercial, but ranting is a bit much.
I agree. I found it to be a fun read and am looking forward to running a one-shot with this for my group just because it's quirky. Is it a commercial? Yeah, I suppose, but somebody put a LOT of creativity into the thing and I have to give a "thumbs up" because of that. :)
Quote from: JRT;1107625It was written by a marketing firm who's members I guess played D&D. It was a firm that Daniel Fox worked at.
https://twitter.com/ZweihanderRPG/status/1179938859276259328
This is the firm, seems a standard marketing firm
https://www.vmlyr.com/
I think the lead creator was a guy named Tony Marin.
Looks like Marin makes fun of Antifa on his Twitter as well.
Quote from: Bren;1107669Not hardly. The OD&D rules were one step above a mimeograph machine. Maybe by the mid 1980s, but that was more than 10 years after the publishing beginning.
OD&D was more adventure gaming than role-playing back in the day.
Quote from: Mistwell;1107680Looks like Marin makes fun of Antifa on his Twitter as well.
That explains the lack of any virtue signaling in Feast of Legends.
Quote from: Rhedyn;1107609A committee
And our resident village idiot #13 speaks.
Quote from: JRT;1107625It was written by a marketing firm who's members I guess played D&D. It was a firm that Daniel Fox worked at.
https://twitter.com/ZweihanderRPG/status/1179938859276259328
This is the firm, seems a standard marketing firm
https://www.vmlyr.com/
I think the lead creator was a guy named Tony Marin.
Jesus did Zweihander have some hand in this? I hope not.
Quote from: BedrockBrendan;1107651......I like Wendy's food. I just don't see the point of a Wendy's RPG.
Not everything has to have a 'point'. Sometimes silly and goofy are reasons for doing something - even better if overly political types get mad about it.
If my nearby Wendy's was giving it out free or selling it for a buck apiece with the money going to charity - I would buy it.
- Ed C.
I don't see the point either, but if people are having fun with it, tres coolio. Go forth and dice with Wendy!
BTW...interesting article on the Death of Subcultures
https://meaningness.com/geeks-mops-sociopaths
Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;1107650The SJWs and other radicalized Democrats in the hobby are starting to hate on Wendy's now. Something to do with Trump.
Links???
It is done for the chuckles. If you have not noticed lately Wendy's has lightened up a bit and this may be just another fun pastime idea for someone on staff. Akin to the old Mc Donalds games, Captain Crunch PC games. And so on. Even... Burger King???
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Yes. That is a real X-Box game. One of 3 apparently. There is also a Burger King... Uno card game??? :eek:
Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;1107650The SJWs and other radicalized Democrats in the hobby are starting to hate on Wendy's now. Something to do with Trump.
well, I for one, dislike Wendy's because last time I ate there I ordered a plain bacon cheese burger (burger, bun, cheese, bacon) and after sending it back 4 times, it was finally close enough to being right that I could eat it and not have my food allergies react.
I guess this one of those fascist OSR products that Sword Dream has been complaining about. I see SJW Daniel "Lying Sack of Shit" Fox is pushing it and using it as a opportunity to advertise that game of his that is really a rip off of Warhammer. Hopefully that will put a major dent in his SJW creds.
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Quote from: Koltar;1107687Not everything has to have a 'point'. Sometimes silly and goofy are reasons for doing something - even better if overly political types get mad about it.
If my nearby Wendy's was giving it out free or selling it for a buck apiece with the money going to charity - I would buy it.
- Ed C.
Why is everyone suddenly being so literal? That isn't what I meant by "I don't see the point". Its an expression. I am just saying, I don't understand the interest. Clearly the political thing is getting people on either side worked up about this topic more than they otherwise would be. I don't personally care about the politics behind it. I just think the RPG is stupid, regardless of that stuff.
Quote from: BedrockBrendan;1107715Why is everyone suddenly being so literal? That isn't what I meant by "I don't see the point". Its an expression. I am just saying, I don't understand the interest. Clearly the political thing is getting people on either side worked up about this topic more than they otherwise would be. I don't personally care about the politics behind it. I just think the RPG is stupid, regardless of that stuff.
Keep it up man. I'm making one hell of a cringe compilation to chuckle at later.
Quote from: Rhedyn;1107720Keep it up man. I'm making one hell of a cringe compilation to chuckle at later.
How is not liking a product, and finding it kind of lame, cringeworthy?
I don't know. Feels like I am saying one thing, and getting reactions like I said something else (not just here, but happening on facebook and other platforms as well).
Cringe if you want. I think this is a stupid product.
BRB your welcome to not like the product. Some do others really don't care either way.
Except correct me if I'm wrong you keep repeating your not a fan of the product while expecting some kind of validation of your position. Repeating your position over and over is not going to change posters mind on the product. It begins to get kind of embrassing and to be honest cringeworthy.
Saying 2+2= 5 over and over is not going to make it so. Imo move on and just admit you lost this battle. Again not something I would ever use or run yet I'm not going to hold it against those that do. Pretending not to understand why is being disingenuous imo. I'm not a fan of Thaco personally I get why some like it.
Quote from: sureshot;1107733BRB your welcome to not like the product. Some do others really don't care either way.
Except correct me if I'm wrong you keep repeating your not a fan of the product while expecting some kind of validation of your position. Repeating your position over and over is not going to change posters mind on the product. It begins to get kind of embrassing and to be honest cringeworthy.
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I am not expecting validation. And I don't expect people to agree with me about the RPG. I just don't think the reactions are in line with what I am saying.
Quote from: Ratman_tf;1107674OD&D was also well before RPGs entered pop culture, which was the beginning of D&D as a phenomenon.
So you didn't mean the beginning of D&D you meant the beginning of D&D as a phenomena? No I totally didn't get that.
Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;1107684OD&D was more adventure gaming than role-playing back in the day.
Is there any evidence that it is more about roleplaying today than it was back then?
Quote from: BedrockBrendan;1107740I am not expecting validation. And I don't expect people to agree with me about the RPG. I just don't think the reactions are in line with what I am saying.
The over reactions
are kind of weird. And some people seem really defensive about liking a product you think is dumb. :rolleyes:
Quote from: BedrockBrendan;1107724How is not liking a product, and finding it kind of lame, cringeworthy?
I don't know. Feels like I am saying one thing, and getting reactions like I said something else (not just here, but happening on facebook and other platforms as well).
Cringe if you want. I think this is a stupid product.
That's because we see right through you. We know you are an agent working for Creepyvale, trying to subvert Wendy's rightful rule with your new Pretzel Bacon King burger. Not going to work!
Quote from: BedrockBrendan;1107740I am not expecting validation. And I don't expect people to agree with me about the RPG. I just don't think the reactions are in line with what I am saying.
Not a fan of the product and I respect how you feel. At the same time your coming across as if they attacked you on a personal level. As if they killed your favorite puppy, slept with your significant other and burned your home down.
Yes it's money grab to be honest I won't hold it against the creators of the product. Since I like money I would do the exact same team thing. I also won't hold it against those who like the product, as it's no one else damn business what I or others decide to purchase let alone play as an rpg.
Quote from: Bren;1107751The over reactions are kind of weird. And some people seem really defensive about liking a product you think is dumb. :rolleyes:
It's one thing to think an particular product is dumb. It's another to try and portray that the very existence of the product is a targeted personal attack.
I too feel like it's a dumb product. That being said some may not. Why would I judge them when I bought a fair share of dumb products in my time.
Quote from: sureshot;1107784It's another to try and portray that the very existence of the product is a targeted personal attack.
I don't know about others, but I certainly haven't been doing this.
QuoteI too feel like it's a dumb product. That being said some may not. Why would I judge them when I bought a fair share of dumb products in my time.
Maybe some people are taking our reactions too personally? People can have negative opinions about things you like and they can even be a bit dumbfounded if people like something. I want conversations about games and media where people give their honest opinions. If someone really likes something I want them to say. If someone really hates something, I want them to say. And if people think I am a boob for liking something, I'd rather they tell me than think it.
Much of the positive reaction is gamers are happy our hobby has a mainstream presence in a positive portrayal.
It's not D&D as "a weird game for those geeks", but D&D as this awesome way we can promote our low grade corporate fast food!
Quote from: Spinachcat;1107789Much of the positive reaction is gamers are happy our hobby has a mainstream presence in a positive portrayal.
It's not D&D as "a weird game for those geeks", but D&D as this awesome way we can promote our low grade corporate fast food!
I am happy gaming is getting mainstream. This was why I had an optimistic attitude toward Critical Role. But people are being a little sensitive when you complain about something they like in my opinion. If folks are happy that there is a Wendy's RPG, I can't take that away from them. But I can't find it any less ridiculous either.
Mainstream today = dead fad of tomorrow
Quote from: Spinachcat;1107794Mainstream today = dead fad of tomorrow
You mean pet rocks and beanie babies aren't still popular? :D
Quote from: Spinachcat;1107794Mainstream today = dead fad of tomorrow
Perhaps.
For what it's worth, this is a fairly significant adventure, I sure can't finish this in 4 hours, more like 16 (hard to say, haven't finished reading it). There are lots of riddles so far, and only a bit of fighting--as well as quite a few little jokes (such as the ice cream dispenser run by a clown that's broken down).
Quote from: sureshot;1107783Yes it's money grab to be honest I won't hold it against the creators of the product.
How is it a money grab? It is free? The app is far as I can tell, free. Last check they arent even selling dice.
You do not even have to eat their food to play. Its just an added perk if you happen to be doing so. It is not the first RPG to use that even. I guess those were money grabs too? I guess then that article way back in Dragon about Burger Hell a money grab for Mc Donalds? One of the original players dropping a Mc Donalds in the middle of a dungeon? PRODUCT PLACEMENT! You monster!
Quote from: BedrockBrendan;1107787I don't know about others, but I certainly haven't been doing this.
Maybe some people are taking our reactions too personally?
Yes you have. practically right out the gate. It is the way you keep wording it that sets some off.
Quote from: Spinachcat;1107789Much of the positive reaction is gamers are happy our hobby has a mainstream presence in a positive portrayal.
It's not D&D as "a weird game for those geeks", but D&D as this awesome way we can promote our low grade corporate fast food!
Off topic moment to rant.
Um... low grade? I worked at the factory that processes the meat for quite a few places and it is NOT low grade. And alot of effort went into making sure the quality was high.
At the expense of the workers.
Back on topic.
Is the hobby really being presented in a positive way?
More likely this would just re-infoce the idea that RPGs are for kids. Just like board games and cartoons.
Quote from: Spinachcat;1107794Mainstream today = dead fad of tomorrow
I think we are stuck with laser swords for the duration.
Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;1107837I think we are stuck with laser swords for the duration.
No kidding! Swords of light and Flame swords go back centuries! We'll never be rid of the darn things at this rate! :rolleyes:
Quote from: Omega;1107835Yes you have. practically right out the gate. It is the way you keep wording it that sets some off.
I think people are being way too sensitive about my dislike of the Wendy's RPG. You guys have gotten soft
Quote from: BedrockBrendan;1107857I think people are being way too sensitive about my dislike of the Wendy's RPG. You guys have gotten soft
It's not about your dislike of the product so much that your going out of your way to seek being validated on the subject while pretending not to understand why others disagree with you. In an earlier post you mentioned going to Facebook and other places and there too they pretty much said the same thing.
You know this forum is not the kind to give a requested echo chamber you expected differently anyway and decide to insult us for not agreeing with your stance on the product.
As for being soft I notice over at the rpgpub thst this topic is nowhere to be seen. Afraid to get pushback on this topuc on your own forum perhaps. Whose being soft now.
Again it's your right to dislike this product. No need to contantly repeat that you do in the hopes that the majority of the posers here end up agreeing with you. While pretending not to understand why. Your better and more importantly smarter than that.
Quote from: sureshot;1107859It's not about your dislike of the product so much that your going out of your way to seek being validated on the subject while pretending not to understand why others disagree with you. In an earlier post you mentioned going to Facebook and other places and there too they pretty much said the same thing.
And again, I wasn't looking for validation. I expected people would be out there who liked the product, and have no desire to persuade them. What I was talking about on facebook was people grilling me and accusing me of intellectual dishonesty or worse because I said I had zero interest. What is perplexing me is the extremely emotional reaction people are having.
QuoteYou know this forum is not the kind to give a requested echo chamber you expected differently anyway and decide to insult us for not agreeing with your stance on the product.
As for being soft I notice over at the rpgpub thst this topic is nowhere to be seen. Afraid to get pushback on this topuc on your own forum perhaps. Whose being soft now.
Again it's your right to dislike this product. No need to contantly repeat that you do in the hopes that the majority of the posers here end up agreeing with you. While pretending not to understand why. Your better and more importantly smarter than that.
WTF? I don't have a single forum. I post here, I post at the Pub and I post at En World (in almost equal amounts). And I have been here way longer than you have. I come here because people can take chop busting, they are usually not as echoing or posturing as I am seeing on this thread. This thread is like a case study of people trying to out cool out out pose one another on the internet.
Frankly the only place that didn't get this emotional of a reaction that I posted at was En World for some reason (and there I am usually the bad guy).
Quote from: sureshot;1107859You know this forum is not the kind to give a requested echo chamber you expected differently anyway and decide to insult us for not agreeing with your stance on the product.
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I post on multiple forums, including Story-Games.com (back when it was live) specifically to avoid echo chambers. I regularly wade into discussions where I know people will disagree with me, so I can get push back by people who have good arguments (so I don't end up just debating straw men all the time). I don't care if people here disagree with me. What struck me was the emotional reactions people had and just how off some of the characterizations of my posts were. Yes, I mocked the idea of the game and yes I busted chops, but people calling it 'cringeworthy' and 'disturbing'. Those just seem like weak bits of rhetoric to me.
My mistake BRB I could have sworn you created the Rpbpub. Forum.
I think your putting too much effort into trying to win a losing battle.if you want to continue the fight more power to you.
Quote from: sureshot;1107863My mistake BRB I could have sworn you created the Rpbpub. Forum.
I think your putting too much effort into trying to win a losing battle.if you want to continue the fight more power to you.
Well, that isn't the case. I was a mod here. The only other social media places where I have any involvement as a mod or creator is a bunch of wuxia groups.
With the Pub, I am good friends with one of the mods there, and I like a lot of the posters there because many of them I know from here back in the day. But I am also friends with Pundit. I don't get involved in peoples' online beefs as a rule. Any issues I have with people here, I will deal with it here, not at another forum.
Quote from: sureshot;1107863My mistake BRB I could have sworn you created the Rpbpub. Forum.
I think your putting too much effort into trying to win a losing battle.if you want to continue the fight more power to you.
Also, there is a Feast of Legends thread at the Pub.
Quote from: BedrockBrendan;1107864Well, that isn't the case. I was a mod here. The only other social media places where I have any involvement as a mod or creator is a bunch of wuxia groups.
With the Pub, I am good friends with one of the mods there, and I like a lot of the posters there because many of them I know from here back in the day. But I am also friends with Pundit. I don't get involved in peoples' online beefs as a rule. Any issues I have with people here, I will deal with it here, not at another forum.
Your are such a visible presence their I assumed wrongly that you were the owner. I admit my mistakes and did see the thread yet again wrongly assumed it was something else.
Quote from: sureshot;1107866Your are such a visible presence their I assumed wrongly that you were the owner. I admit my mistakes and did see the thread yet again wrongly assumed it was something else.
I hardly ever post there. I post there about as much as I post here. And mainly I just post in the media forum talking about Martial Arts movies.
And yet you keep re-re-re-re-re-iterating how much you don't get the game or why anyone would like it? Despite people explaining why. And there having been humorous RPGs out there for decades now?
In the greater scheme of things this is par for the course in humour RPGs and actually better written than several others. (I think it could have been punnier. But thats just me. :D) And more interesting. It is, as far as I can tell, not a copy of any other RPG. It seems to be an original approach.
I do not for example like 4e D&D GammaWorld's setting. Not because of the humour, but because it in absolutely no way lived up to the "hah-hah-slapstick!" hype they hyped it for before release. It is all over the place and the humour is actually barely there.
Quote from: Omega;1107873And yet you keep re-re-re-re-re-iterating how much you don't get the game or why anyone would like it? Despite people explaining why. And there having been humorous RPGs out there for decades now?
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If I reiterate it is only because people get my position wrong or exaggerate it. And like I said before, I like humorous RPGs. Just not this one. It isn't about the thing being a parody RPG.
Quote from: Omega;1107873Despite people explaining why.
Just because people give a reason, doesn't mean I have to agree with them, or understand why they feel that way. Someone once explained their love of my little pony to me, I still was baffled by their taste after the explanation.
Oh my gawd, Brendan, how could you not find the Wendy's RPG the latest hotness! :mad: You shit-stirring edgelord, you! I'm gonna have to power-flounce away after this. /flounce
:p
:D This topic is cray-cray, lovez it. Good to see you again, Brendan. Been too long. :) Can't believe all it took was some shock at your opinion on a spoof-rpg to keep you here engaged. ;) What else do you not like so we can go back and forth and keep you for a few more weeks? :D
Take care, write soon, don't be a stranger! :)
Quote from: Opaopajr;1107891:D This topic is cray-cray, lovez it. Good to see you again, Brendan. Been too long. :) Can't believe all it took was some shock at your opinion on a spoof-rpg to keep you here engaged. ;) What else do you not like so we can go back and forth and keep you for a few more weeks? :D
Well, it isn't directly RPG related, but I kind of agree with Martin Scorsese's recent opinion about MU movies.
I pop in now and again to places, but have been scaling back my engagement with social media in general.
Quote from: BedrockBrendan;1107878Just because people give a reason, doesn't mean I have to agree with them, or understand why they feel that way. Someone once explained their love of my little pony to me, I still was baffled by their taste after the explanation.
I just keep sending your posts to a discord group and we're all getting a good laugh.
Though many don't get why you don't just shut up.
Like damn you are putting in a ton of effort to express your dislike of a fairly solid RPG system covered in branding.
I think this is great.
Remember the audience it is intended for: Young kids, not brooding grognards with too much history in the hobby.
My young kid was mouth agape when I showed him this.
Who give a crap if it tied in with a fast-food company: It gets my kid interested enough to play RPG's, lighting the spark for him to consider other things than TV and video gaming.
I can brood about the commercialization of the hobby ruining my childhood dreams on my own time.
How many normies are gonna know where to find 4-sided dice, or know to look for the Wendy's online die roller, to play this thing?
Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;1107898How many normies are gonna know where to find 4-sided dice, or know to look for the Wendy's online die roller, to play this thing?
Tells you in the rulebook and apparently the roller also exists as an app? I am not sure though as have not checked the roller yet to see what it is.
Would be hilarious if they started selling d4s at Wendy's. :o
Quote from: Rhedyn;1107893I just keep sending your posts to a discord group and we're all getting a good laugh.
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The bar for laughter must be pretty low for you and your friends on that discord group. There are much more entertaining threads out there than this one
Quote from: Rhedyn;1107893Though many don't get why you don't just shut up.
Like damn you are putting in a ton of effort to express your dislike of a fairly solid RPG system covered in branding.
Kids today....
Quote from: rocksfalleverybodydies;1107894I think this is great.
Remember the audience it is intended for: Young kids, not brooding grognards with too much history in the hobby.
My young kid was mouth agape when I showed him this.
Who give a crap if it tied in with a fast-food company: It gets my kid interested enough to play RPG's, lighting the spark for him to consider other things than TV and video gaming.
I can brood about the commercialization of the hobby ruining my childhood dreams on my own time.
And I wouldn't knock a little kid for liking it, just like I wouldn't insult a child for wanting a happy meal to get the toy. A grown man buying a happy mean for he toy on the other hand...
Look, a lot of my close friends also like this game. I haven't really have much of an issue expressing this opinion to them at all. They like it, I can't stand it. I think their tastes in this instance kind of sucks. But it doesn't become this thing it is becoming here and elsewhere.
I hardly ever buy Wendy's, like every couple of years maybe.
But for some reason I found myself there on Saturday night just after they released Feast of Legends.
Co-incidence? ;)
I accidentally closed the tab of the reddit thread, but there's at least one reactionary google-docs rpg offering to Wendy's FoL: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Dq_1G1Zh_cMQil-BYT1QqsTTTwLhB94Bz8IW7-1an6M/edit (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Dq_1G1Zh_cMQil-BYT1QqsTTTwLhB94Bz8IW7-1an6M/edit)
Silence, Brand is a tabletop game about combating corporate pandering. It is a game for 2-5 players and 1 Game Master or GM. It is the aim of each player to shut down or hijack social media campaigns, steal money from the corps, encourage mass boycotts, and expose corruption.
Quote from: cenmarik;1108014I accidentally closed the tab of the reddit thread, but there's at least one reactionary google-docs rpg offering to Wendy's FoL: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Dq_1G1Zh_cMQil-BYT1QqsTTTwLhB94Bz8IW7-1an6M/edit (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Dq_1G1Zh_cMQil-BYT1QqsTTTwLhB94Bz8IW7-1an6M/edit)
Silence, Brand is a tabletop game about combating corporate pandering. It is a game for 2-5 players and 1 Game Master or GM. It is the aim of each player to shut down or hijack social media campaigns, steal money from the corps, encourage mass boycotts, and expose corruption.
That is also incredibly lame
Quote from: cenmarik;1108014I accidentally closed the tab of the reddit thread, but there's at least one reactionary google-docs rpg offering to Wendy's FoL: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Dq_1G1Zh_cMQil-BYT1QqsTTTwLhB94Bz8IW7-1an6M/edit (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Dq_1G1Zh_cMQil-BYT1QqsTTTwLhB94Bz8IW7-1an6M/edit)
Silence, Brand is a tabletop game about combating corporate pandering. It is a game for 2-5 players and 1 Game Master or GM. It is the aim of each player to shut down or hijack social media campaigns, steal money from the corps, encourage mass boycotts, and expose corruption.
Wow. Interesting "joke" in there about bribing people to commit real-world violence against a person in exchange for "winning the game forever" and "$1000" by mail. Classy.
The Feast of Legends is a good bit of satire. There will be some that play it, once, maybe twice. There might even be a group that will play a somewhat lengthy campaign. But that doesn't change the fact that it is satire. It's a comedy piece.
I looked at it. I read it. And I got a good laugh.
But ultimately? What's the harm? It is a very basic introduction to what new players can expect from the RPG hobby. Cloaked in a lot of bad silly humor.
Anything that demystifies the hobby to the mainstream is good in my book. It gives another voice out there besides those who were behind the 'Satanic Panic'.
Quote from: Nihilistic Mind;1108023The Feast of Legends is a good bit of satire. There will be some that play it, once, maybe twice. There might even be a group that will play a somewhat lengthy campaign. But that doesn't change the fact that it is satire. It's a comedy piece.
Good satire is also a good example of whatever they are mimicking.
Quote from: Nihilistic Mind;1108023The Feast of Legends is a good bit of satire. There will be some that play it, once, maybe twice. There might even be a group that will play a somewhat lengthy campaign. But that doesn't change the fact that it is satire. It's a comedy piece.
I feel the same way about a D&D 5e game using the
Acquisitions Incorporated book. It's supposed to be comedy, and I understand that even though I don't appreciate the humor it is supposed to generate.
Quote from: Darrin Kelley;1108026Anything that demystifies the hobby to the mainstream is good in my book. It gives another voice out there besides those who were behind the 'Satanic Panic'.
By now most of that crew are in nursing homes or, like Pat Pullings, in cemeteries.
Quote from: Omega;1107836More likely this would just re-infoce the idea that RPGs are for kids. Just like board games and cartoons.
I hope so! We need more kids playing the game so it doesn't go the way of comics, where only adults are buying comics now (due to price and content) and the industry will inevitably feel that shrink as attrition occurs and is not replaced by younger readers.
Board games on the other hand keeps getting renewed by younger players. Which is a good thing.
And they said D&D was the
McDonalds of RPGs.
The thing that strikes me the most is again all the mean spirited hypocrisy I'm seeing from people online. Total lack of empathy. Total lack of self-awareness. Total lack of humor. Total lack of holding to principles. Why anyone would
want to be in these communities is beyond me.
Oh, and in researching this I came to find the only people who have me blocked on #Twitter (that I know of), despite never interacting with them there, are Zak Smith and Jessica Price. Guess I'm offending the right people by proxy.
Quote from: Brad;1107570My buddy texted me about it earlier this morning and said a bunch of SJWs were protesting on Twitter, that people are talking about this instead of supporting indie publishers, Wendy's supports Trump, Wendy's doesn't pay their workers a living wage...
And unsurprisingly some are using it to take swipes at #CriticalRole (https://archive.is/FmgOa) because ultimately they resent the success of others, if not success itself.
Quote from: Mistwell;1107680Looks like Marin makes fun of Antifa on his Twitter as well.
I guess that means Daniel makes fun of #Antifa and endorses #Wendy's actions too, given they haven't completely denounced Martin. Yet somehow they get a pass.
Quote from: cenmarik;1108014It is the aim of each player to shut down or hijack social media campaigns, steal money from the corps, encourage mass boycotts, and expose corruption.
In other words it's #4Chan the RPG.
Quote from: Antiquation!;1108021Interesting "joke" in there about bribing people to commit real-world violence against a person in exchange for "winning the game forever" and "$1000" by mail.
Where?
Quote from: Brad;1107570It's basically a parody,
Quote from: Nihilistic Mind;1108023The Feast of Legends is a good bit of satire.
Quote from: Rhedyn;1108028Good satire is also a good example of whatever they are mimicking.
Technically it's parody, and I know because Kenneth Hite got really angry when I didn't know the proper definition of satire.
Quote from: Anon Adderlan;1108102Where?
Page 14 under real-life ways to gain "Clout" (clearly referencing the in-game bonuses of Feast of Legends for eating real-life Wendy's items).
"Punch Todd Penegor in the face: You win Silence, Brand forever and I'll mail you $1000."
(burning your D&D books is also a listed option for Clout gain)
Quote from: BedrockBrendan;1107549Because it is a Wendy's commercial.
The "D&D Community" is just a Hasbro commercial, and a much more sinister one because most of the people believe that it is a real and natural thing. When a bunch of people who are all-in with the rainbow ampersand "we must gatekeep to keep out all the gatekeepers" Every-setting-is-Seattle COMMUNITY actually start saying (with a straight face) stuff like "We can't allow our D&D Community to be taken over by a massive corporation that is guilty of abuses"... I mean holy fuck.
BITCH, YOUR WHOLE "COMMUNITY" IS A MASSIVE CORPORATE TAKEOVER OF THE REAL HOBBY YOU NEVER ACTUALLY KNEW. And by HASBRO, a company twenty times more evil than Wendy's. I mean, it takes a special type of evil to use child labor to make cheap toys. But because Hasbro donates a thousand of its Eleventy Trillion Dollars in quarterly profits to some LGBT club, that means they're wonderful to these morons, whereas Wendy's is Satan Incarnate because the owner donated some money to the Bad Orange Man.
Quote from: Omega;1107686Jesus did Zweihander have some hand in this? I hope not.
He immediately tried to take peripheral credit for it, tweeting about how it was "his folx" who did this and how awesome it is and how he can't wait to play it with some delicious wendy's burgers... and then within an hour all the SJWs started hearing about it and they all agreed it was Nazi.
So now Fox has a serious problem: he's taken massive credit for something and exposed his personal IRL friends as the authors of something that the SJW crowd have decided must be absolutely and utterly condemned and the lives of anyone associated with it destroyed.
He can't just denounce it with a flip-flop, because doing so would affect his real-world relationships.
And of course, now every time the bitch opens his mouth I'll get to point out how he sang the praises of a Pro-Trump anti-lgbt worker-abusing evil right-wing megacorporation.
Quote from: RPGPundit;1108153He immediately tried to take peripheral credit for it, tweeting about how it was "his folx" who did this and how awesome it is and how he can't wait to play it with some delicious wendy's burgers... and then within an hour all the SJWs started hearing about it and they all agreed it was Nazi.
So now Fox has a serious problem: he's taken massive credit for something and exposed his personal IRL friends as the authors of something that the SJW crowd have decided must be absolutely and utterly condemned and the lives of anyone associated with it destroyed.
He can't just denounce it with a flip-flop, because doing so would affect his real-world relationships.
And of course, now every time the bitch opens his mouth I'll get to point out how he sang the praises of a Pro-Trump anti-lgbt worker-abusing evil right-wing megacorporation.
Okay but seriously folks, can we all just agree that THIS THREAD is the single most entertaining thing to come out of the stupid burger commercial RPG?
Quote from: Anon Adderlan;1108102And unsurprisingly some are using it to take swipes at #CriticalRole (https://archive.is/FmgOa) because ultimately they resent the success of others, if not success itself.
To be fair, it's one thing when a company makes a commercial for itself. Its another when you get a group of alleged "serious artists" who are totally playing a real RPG after all, and throw money at them to sell out and do a fake infomercial for Wendy's, which is what CR did. And of course now Matt Mercer is apologizing to SJWs for having associated with poisoned companies that like the Orange Bad Man.
Quote from: RPGPundit;1108148The "D&D Community" is just a Hasbro commercial, and a much more sinister one because most of the people believe that it is a real and natural thing. When a bunch of people who are all-in with the rainbow ampersand "we must gatekeep to keep out all the gatekeepers" Every-setting-is-Seattle COMMUNITY actually start saying (with a straight face) stuff like "We can't allow our D&D Community to be taken over by a massive corporation that is guilty of abuses"... I mean holy fuck.
BITCH, YOUR WHOLE "COMMUNITY" IS A MASSIVE CORPORATE TAKEOVER OF THE REAL HOBBY YOU NEVER ACTUALLY KNEW. And by HASBRO, a company twenty times more evil than Wendy's. I mean, it takes a special type of evil to use child labor to make cheap toys. But because Hasbro donates a thousand of its Eleventy Trillion Dollars in quarterly profits to some LGBT club, that means they're wonderful to these morons, whereas Wendy's is Satan Incarnate because the owner donated some money to the Bad Orange Man.
That isn't why I had no interest in the game. I actually like Wendy's, it is my favorite fast food place (at least It was when I could still eat that stuff). I wasn't even aware people were taking issue with Wendy's over these reasons till someone in this thread mentioned. Generally I am not particularly interested in making sure all the brands I enjoy are wholesome or align with my politics. My whole point is I can't get excited about an RPG that is essentially just marketing for a restaurant (regardless of how good, bad or middle of the road the restaurant in question is). And the book just looked silly in a not terribly funny way when I leafed through it
I really enjoyed reading through Feast of Legends and got quite a few good laughs out of it. I think it is a lot of fun and it is never too soon to teach your kids to ignore commercials and here they are conveniently in the game.
Quote from: Antiquation!;1108021Wow. Interesting "joke" in there about bribing people to commit real-world violence against a person in exchange for "winning the game forever" and "$1000" by mail. Classy.
Just like IRL SJW activists except they pay in soy-based products.
Quote from: Gagarth;1108244Just like IRL SJW activists except they pay in soy-based products.
LOL. These types are truly vile, contemptible creatures. I was about to say "I can't imagine the type of person who could write such propagandistic, incendiary drivel" except, well, I can...
Who are they encouraging you to attack irl?
Quote from: RPGPundit;1108640Who are they encouraging you to attack irl?
Todd A. Penegor, President and Chief Executive Officer of Wendy's.
Actually printed it out and read the entire thing instead of working on research last night (dumb, I know, but there is only so much effort you can put into giving a fuck about reading conference papers).
I'd rate this a 9.5/10, overall. Whoever wrote this had a dumbass premise (FIGHT THE BURGER WARS) and did not phone in any aspect whatsoever. It's like they took to the challenge Muhammad Ali would approach a title bout: 100% balls out. This is how you turn a stupid joke into a coherent, extremely playable game.
Quote from: Brad;1108656This is how you turn a stupid joke into a coherent, extremely playable game.
Yep, that's more or less how I see it too. Some of the mechanics could be explained better, but it serves its purpose in spades.
Quote from: Brad;1108656I'd rate this a 9.5/10, overall. Whoever wrote this had a dumbass premise (FIGHT THE BURGER WARS) and did not phone in any aspect whatsoever. It's like they took to the challenge Muhammad Ali would approach a title bout: 100% balls out. This is how you turn a stupid joke into a coherent, extremely playable game.
Let's not bring The Greatest into this Brad, please.
Quote from: HappyDaze;1108054I feel the same way about a D&D 5e game using the Acquisitions Incorporated book. It's supposed to be comedy, and I understand that even though I don't appreciate the humor it is supposed to generate.
Same here. But then I really hate "self aware" product and "self aware" humour which their AI stuff reeks of. That and I hate working for villains. It is why I eventually quit DragonFable years ago despite having a lifetime VIP.
And that is the big difference here. One book can do this well, and the next can fail miserably. And what one player likes the next may hate. Though hilariously the Acquisitions Incorperated campaign over on Neverwinter is near unanimously hated.
Quote from: Brad;1108656I'd rate this a 9.5/10, overall. Whoever wrote this had a dumbass premise (FIGHT THE BURGER WARS) and did not phone in any aspect whatsoever. It's like they took to the challenge Muhammad Ali would approach a title bout: 100% balls out. This is how you turn a stupid joke into a coherent, extremely playable game.
Exactly. It may be a company product. (No it is not a commercial.) But it is a surprisingly well done one. I think some of the jokes and puns could have been delivered a little better. But I suspect they were working within some sort of constraint to not be too obvious what companies they were ribbing. Sompare that to the slap-dash Sneak, King game which while shoddily made, at least the commercial for it had the right sense of humour.
Quote from: BedrockBrendan;1108665Let's not bring The Greatest into this Brad, please.
Rocky Marciano would have kicked his ass...
Quote from: Brad;1108671Rocky Marciano would have kicked his ass...
That is a hard thing to be certain about, especially given the huge difference in their styles
Well from Sneak, King we can assume Burger King is a Rogue.
Wendy is obviously some sort of Paladin.
Donald is if course a Warlock and eldritch horror. (especially if you ever saw some of his older iterations.)
Arby is hard to pin down. Possibly a Ranger.
And the Colonel is certainly a Wizard what with the beard and all.
Quote from: Omega;1108742And the Colonel is certainly a Wizard what with the beard and all.
Not to mention his uncanny ability to glamour his visage from appearance to appearance...
Quote from: Brad;1108671Rocky Marciano would have kicked his ass...
https://youtu.be/0LPddiQXD9c
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Never gets old.
Quote from: Brad;1109535Never gets old.
No disagreement on that point