Quote from: Serious PaulSo we're sure none of the other categories in the Ennies have "cheating" then? I mean as long as we're sure, right?

Sure or not, nobody else has come out in the open and explained that they do it, and explained how they do it, satirically or not. By doing that, the FtB peeps opened themselves up to being accused of it by others. If they hadn't, any accusations that they were could be seen as sour grapes. Try to look at it from the ENnie peeps POV, if they did nothing it would seriously damage what credibility they do have, and set back what credibility they'd like to build for themselves in the future. So, they take some flak now, but perhaps carry forward some perception of seriousness, a demonstration of their commitment to making the awards as fair as they can, and hopefully a willingness by the peeps in the RPG business to participate in the future.

Quote from: Serious PaulEspecially since a member of the ENnies staff seems to take such joy in being disruptive, and apparently they (The ENnies people) are fine with him going out to troll other boards for reactions and pick fights with people.

Michael Morris is a volunteer. I don't know how much experience you have in the non-profit sector but it has not been my experience that financially-strapped volunteer organizations have a lot of power to control what their volunteers do in their free time.

In my experience, if somebody gives you hundreds of hours of volunteer time and asks for nothing in return, this donation does not entitle you to control what they do in what fraction of their leisure time remains. Normally, it does the reverse; it often entitles the volunteer to make demands of the recipients of his donation -- and, to his credit, Michael has never made demands on the ENnies organization.

Michael, like all of us, has received advice from our board of directors. But it is his decision as to whether to follow it.

Quote from: Spartan2260I just have to respond to this. I'm a podcasting fan and a Fear The Boot fan. What I'm about to say is my opinion.

You people crossed a very fine line when you registered on the FtB forums and began insulting them ON THEIR OWN BOARDS!!! You might as well drove to Dan's house. Knocked on the door. Walk into the middle of the gaming group and begin throwing supportive arguments about why you were right for two hours (equivalent of 16 pages on a forum)!!!

Dan was just letting people vent. ON HIS BOARDS! Let them! Damn!

That was not your soapbox!

Respect?! Respect works both ways. You guys have no right to respect.

Now, you want to handle the matter privately. Too f'in late! You opened your traps. Deal with the consiquences!

Fear The Boot is dealing with the result of their statements.

Grow up. Do the same.

Although I don't feel as strongly about it, this is why I said before that the ENnie peeps were perhaps not handling this flak in the best way. There really were mistakes made by both sides of this ruckus.

Quote from: SigmundAlthough I don't feel as strongly about it, this is why I said before that the ENnie peeps were perhaps not handling this flak in the best way. There really were mistakes made by both sides of this ruckus.

I feel strongly about this. To me it's really simple.

Give out awards: Good.
Ask for entries: Even better.
Have rules: Excellent!
Enforce rules: Eye, eye, Cap'n!
Go onto a forum ran by the offending person to re-inforce your argument, then get defensive when not everyone agrees with you or pokes holes in your logic. Finally, vowing never to return to such a vile forum becuse you are above such things: Too late. Can opened. Worms a plenty!

Grow a pair and deal with it. Besides, words have consiquences.

Now. Where have I learned that from...

You know the fun thing about all of this? Fear the Boot is still the best podcast.


Heh.

They should stamp their website with "Totally disqualified from the Ennies awards!", I'd still listen.

Quote from: Spartan2260I feel strongly about this. To me it's really simple.

Give out awards: Good.
Ask for entries: Even better.
Have rules: Excellent!
Enforce rules: Eye, eye, Cap'n!
Get pissed when you go onto a forum ran by the offending person to re-inforce your argument, then get defensive when not everyone agrees with you or pokes holes in your logic. Finally, vowing never to return to such a vile forum becuse you are above such things: Too late. Can opened. Worms a plenty!

Grow a pair and deal with it. Besides, words have consiquences.

Now. Where have I learned that from...

I find I can't disagree with you on this point.

Quote from: Abyssal MawYou know the fun thing about all of this? Fear the Boot is still the best podcast.


Heh.

They should stamp their website with "Totally disqualified from the Ennies awards!", I'd still listen.

Here here, this is indeed the best part. And they SO should do that. Make it fun, make it a badge of honor.

Even better.

Boycott the ENnies this year. No nominee accepts an award. No spectators in the crowd.

Never gonna happen.

In a perfect world though...

One less better that the previous suggestion:
All winners thank Fear The Boot in their acceptance.

Quote from: James J SkachWhat a complete load of shit.

Do you have any idea what that statement says about you?

Quote from: PookaDo you have any idea what that statement says about you?

Michael, Alan has said it on ENW but I'll echo it here: SHUT THE FUCK UP.

I had more respect for the ENnies before one of their leaders showed up with an inability to answer direct questions, or indeed make any meaningful statements at all.

Pooka, If you value what your team has built, you may want to pay a little attention to your behavior in public.

And yes, I know I'll get some cockamamie excuse for socratic psychoanalysis for my troubles. But who knows, maybe you'll accidentally pay attention as well.

Quote from: Abyssal MawThey should stamp their website with "Totally disqualified from the Ennies awards!", I'd still listen.

Actually, in a delightfully irreverent sort of way, that's a great slogan that perfectly matches the tongue-in-cheek humor of the podcast. If they put that along with their logo on some Cafepress stuff, I'd buy one.

Quote from: Abyssal MawThey should stamp their website with "Totally disqualified from the Ennies awards!", I'd still listen.

Absolutely!  There's no such thing as bad publicity.  People hating you passionately is just as good for raising your profile as people loving you passionately ... often better.

Quote from: TonyLBAbsolutely!  There's no such thing as bad publicity.  People hating you passionately is just as good for raising your profile as people loving you passionately ... often better.

Yeah, because it induces curiosity as well as awareness

Quote from: TonyLBAbsolutely!  There's no such thing as bad publicity.  People hating you passionately is just as good for raising your profile as people loving you passionately ... often better.

Well, that's an interesting insight into your persona, Tony.

In other news, I SHALL NOT REST UNTIL THIS AWARD HAS BEEN RENAMED "THE  BOOTIES"

I mean, it's a way better name. The way it just rolls off the tongue like that. And who wouldn't be proud to have "Gotten Some Booty"?