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Favorite transhuman scifi

Started by jan paparazzi, August 15, 2015, 06:40:02 PM

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The Butcher

#60
August 27, 2015, 05:04:22 PM Last Edit: August 27, 2015, 05:16:00 PM by The Butcher
Quote from: Intergalactic Threat;851559I like EP, but to say it's left leaning is bizarre.

Care to elaborate? The authors seem fairly open about their biases.

Quote from: Intergalactic Threat;851559MRA is the motherlode of bad ideas. I have no time for it, especially when people are going to strawman games and game designers.

In my admittedly limited experience, it's less "a bad idea" in and of itself, and more resentment borne out of relative ignorance. I feel many a worthy cause would benefit by cutting back on confrontation and going for clarification. Repeated and strident criticism without setting a context tends to make people shut down and dig in; five minutes of civilized conversation suffice for most honest people on this Earth to realize that it's all ultimately basic human decency. But that requires good faith and a bit of work from both parts. *shrug* The Internet, right?

Christopher Brady

#61
August 27, 2015, 05:26:54 PM
Quote from: The Butcher;851584Care to elaborate? The authors seem fairly open about their biases.



In my admittedly limited experience, it's less "a bad idea" in and of itself, and more resentment borne out of relative ignorance. I feel many a worthy cause would benefit by cutting back on confrontation and going for clarification. Repeated and strident criticism without setting a context tends to make people shut down and dig in; five minutes of civilized conversation suffice for most honest people on this Earth to realize that it's all ultimately basic human decency. But that requires good faith and a bit of work from both parts. *shrug* The Internet, right?

Yeap.  The internet.  This HOBBY could use with less confrontation about anything and more conversation about it all.  We're playing make believe with funny-shaped and sometimes cubic, often plastic, little number generators.  We really need to just lighten up sometimes.
"And now, my friends, a Dragon\'s toast!  To life\'s little blessings:  wars, plagues and all forms of evil.  Their presence keeps us alert --- and their absence makes us grateful." -T.A. Barron[/SIZE]

jeff37923

#62
August 27, 2015, 08:18:29 PM
Quote from: The Butcher;851584I feel many a worthy cause would benefit by cutting back on confrontation and going for clarification. Repeated and strident criticism without setting a context tends to make people shut down and dig in; five minutes of civilized conversation suffice for most honest people on this Earth to realize that it's all ultimately basic human decency. But that requires good faith and a bit of work from both parts. *shrug* The Internet, right?

Quote from: Christopher Brady;851590Yeap.  The internet.  This HOBBY could use with less confrontation about anything and more conversation about it all.  We're playing make believe with funny-shaped and sometimes cubic, often plastic, little number generators.  We really need to just lighten up sometimes.

Flag on the play!

Using logic and common sense on theRPGSite!

10 yard penalty on both posters! First down!
"Meh."

Spike

#63
August 27, 2015, 08:22:44 PM
Quote from: Intergalactic Threat.

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For you the day you found a minor error in a Post by Spike and forced him to admit it, it was the greatest day of your internet life.  For me it was... Tuesday.

For the curious: Apparently, in person, I sound exactly like the Youtube Character The Nostalgia Critic.   I have no words.

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Brand55

#64
August 27, 2015, 08:41:30 PM
Quote from: Christopher Brady;851590Yeap.  The internet.  This HOBBY could use with less confrontation about anything and more conversation about it all.  We're playing make believe with funny-shaped and sometimes cubic, often plastic, little number generators.  We really need to just lighten up sometimes.
You call my number generators little and funny-shaped one more time and you, sir, are going to make an enemy. They are quite sizable and of a physical structure that is most pleasing to the eye.

fellowhoodlum

#65
August 27, 2015, 10:00:18 PM
Quote from: Intergalactic Threat;851555Why would you do this? You complain about political bias and then proceed to resolve that by applying...political bias?

I find some stuff in the books that just don't work for me so I leave those out, while others I change to suit the needs of game.  No such thing as an official EP canon anyway >.>

Christopher Brady

#66
August 28, 2015, 01:48:48 AM
Quote from: Brand55;851627You call my number generators little and funny-shaped one more time and you, sir, are going to make an enemy. They are quite sizable and of a physical structure that is most pleasing to the eye.

The amount of dice I've bought and subsequently lost over the years because I love to just play with them, could literally fill half a ten by ten room.  I am under no illusion what they are, even if I can't stop collecting my pretties.  I love dice.

It's part of the reason why I don't like diceless, or one side only rolls.
"And now, my friends, a Dragon\'s toast!  To life\'s little blessings:  wars, plagues and all forms of evil.  Their presence keeps us alert --- and their absence makes us grateful." -T.A. Barron[/SIZE]

Moracai

#67
August 28, 2015, 03:57:03 AM
Notice how the self appointed "swine-in-training" has left the thread after sparking the whole MRA/SJW debate with one offhanded comment. Could we just ditch this line of conversation? It isn't stimulative or productive at all...

Omega

#68
August 28, 2015, 07:42:41 AM
Some comic book RPgs allow for some interesting transhuman concepts too.

Intergalactic Threat

#69
August 28, 2015, 09:28:56 AM Last Edit: August 28, 2015, 09:31:01 AM by Intergalactic Threat
Quote from: The Butcher;851584Care to elaborate? The authors seem fairly open about their biases.



In my admittedly limited experience, it's less "a bad idea" in and of itself, and more resentment borne out of relative ignorance. I feel many a worthy cause would benefit by cutting back on confrontation and going for clarification. Repeated and strident criticism without setting a context tends to make people shut down and dig in; five minutes of civilized conversation suffice for most honest people on this Earth to realize that it's all ultimately basic human decency. But that requires good faith and a bit of work from both parts. *shrug* The Internet, right?

Eclipse phase base lots of communities that S both left and right wing and beyond. I don't see any bias from the authors whatever their politics.

MRA is a bad idea because its based in bullshit and also hides a variety of unpleasantness. At least one of those aspects is always the case with any activist.

Intergalactic Threat

#70
August 28, 2015, 09:33:29 AM
Quote from: Moracai;851686Notice how the self appointed "swine-in-training" has left the thread after sparking the whole MRA/SJW debate with one offhanded comment. Could we just ditch this line of conversation? It isn't stimulative or productive at all...

 what is a swine in training?

Brand55

#71
August 28, 2015, 10:46:00 AM
Quote from: Christopher Brady;851664The amount of dice I've bought and subsequently lost over the years because I love to just play with them, could literally fill half a ten by ten room.  I am under no illusion what they are, even if I can't stop collecting my pretties.  I love dice.

It's part of the reason why I don't like diceless, or one side only rolls.
Oh, no doubt. I actually couldn't run a diceless game for that reason; my group would revolt. I even have one player who insists on getting to use multiple dice, so even systems that rely on a single die are out.

Moracai

#72
August 28, 2015, 02:00:18 PM Last Edit: August 28, 2015, 02:02:34 PM by Moracai
Quote from: Intergalactic Threat;851721what is a swine in training?

A dude that has the text "Swine in training" where you have the text "member". AKA this dude.

Christopher Brady

#73
August 28, 2015, 02:15:15 PM
Quote from: Intergalactic Threat;851720Eclipse phase base lots of communities that S both left and right wing and beyond. I don't see any bias from the authors whatever their politics.

The fact that they're pro-Internet Feminism, and refuse to see the validity of any other argument (and I mean any other) is bias enough for me.

Quote from: Intergalactic Threat;851720MRA is a bad idea because its based in bullshit and also hides a variety of unpleasantness. At least one of those aspects is always the case with any activist.

Because we all known Feminism, especially the current kind, is nothing but fluffy and light.

There are extremists, bad apples and other silliness in all political groups.
"And now, my friends, a Dragon\'s toast!  To life\'s little blessings:  wars, plagues and all forms of evil.  Their presence keeps us alert --- and their absence makes us grateful." -T.A. Barron[/SIZE]

Intergalactic Threat

#74
August 28, 2015, 04:13:25 PM
Quote from: Christopher Brady;851757The fact that they're pro-Internet Feminism, and refuse to see the validity of any other argument (and I mean any other) is bias enough for me.



Because we all known Feminism, especially the current kind, is nothing but fluffy and light.

There are extremists, bad apples and other silliness in all political groups.

What on earth is 'internet feminism'? What other argument have they refused to see? Or are you referring to their rejection of MRA idiots from their boards whom they booted out because they were disruptive twats?

I mean really, is this the kind of discussion you want? This is the sort of reasoining I'd expect from a fucking creatard.

I've no idea what you're second sentence even means.

The people that wrote EP are not extremists. I think that's fairly clear: have they flown planes into buildings? Attacked people in the street? Bombed clinics? Threatening to blow up other places?
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