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Title: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: RPGPundit on June 21, 2023, 08:28:15 AM
Aside from my own of course, which are the conversational youtube channels (ie. not people doing shows of them playing) that you like the most for OSR or old-school gaming content?

Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: Rob Necronomicon on June 21, 2023, 11:35:29 AM
Good RPG topics:
Grimjim
Legion of Myth
Bear the Gen-X GM
Legacy Game Mastering
Talking About Games
Black Lodge Games
OGGM
TheEvilDM
The Red Room
The Basic Expert
Unscripted & Unchained
Arbiter of Worlds
Reactionary Principle Gaming - with MrMaxBoivin

And for sheer stupidity & comedy gold:
Scott Garibay
CondorDM







Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: shoplifter on June 21, 2023, 12:00:06 PM
As far as OSR specific:

Bandit's Keep
CaptCorajus
Unscripted and Unchained
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: THE_Leopold on June 21, 2023, 01:14:18 PM
Quote from: shoplifter on June 21, 2023, 12:00:06 PM
As far as OSR specific:

Bandit's Keep


I wish he would finish his megadungeon project instead of doing these 15min youtube algorithim shinigans.  It was lining up to be an interesting series.
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: S'mon on June 21, 2023, 03:28:31 PM
Dungeoncraft is kinda OSR. I like Arbiter of Worlds a lot, I can't think of any other pure OSR channels that are good. Matt Colville is OSR influenced.
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: VisionStorm on June 21, 2023, 03:39:44 PM
Quote from: S'mon on June 21, 2023, 03:28:31 PM
Dungeoncraft is kinda OSR.

Beat me to it. But I watch him cuz he's entertaining and is not exclusively OSR.

Also, since some non OSR channels came up above, I've been watching Dungeons and Discourse lately, just cuz I found her entertaining and discusses relevant topics and RPG news. RPG Elite is also really good, he discusses a lot of old school and newer sci-fi games, including Gamma World and Traveler, as well as occasional videos on social issues, kinda anti-woke, but not hardcore anti-SJW.
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: Eirikrautha on June 21, 2023, 08:29:00 PM
Quote from: VisionStorm on June 21, 2023, 03:39:44 PM
Quote from: S'mon on June 21, 2023, 03:28:31 PM
Dungeoncraft is kinda OSR.

Beat me to it. But I watch him cuz he's entertaining and is not exclusively OSR.

Also, since some non OSR channels came up above, I've been watching Dungeons and Discourse lately, just cuz I found her entertaining and discusses relevant topics and RPG news.
The only real problem is that Dungeons and Discourse sounds like everyone's ex-wife ever, all rolled into one.  She's more nasal than Pinocchio.

As much as I like some of their videos (Dungeoncraft and Dungeons and Discourse), I don't really trust either of them.  Both have shown deference to their friends in the past few months (D&D when there was a Youtube kerfluffle about some influencer and Dungeoncraft with his "reviews"), so I don't really trust their opinions.   But I do enjoy some of their content.
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: VisionStorm on June 21, 2023, 08:55:50 PM
Quote from: Eirikrautha on June 21, 2023, 08:29:00 PM
Quote from: VisionStorm on June 21, 2023, 03:39:44 PM
Quote from: S'mon on June 21, 2023, 03:28:31 PM
Dungeoncraft is kinda OSR.

Beat me to it. But I watch him cuz he's entertaining and is not exclusively OSR.

Also, since some non OSR channels came up above, I've been watching Dungeons and Discourse lately, just cuz I found her entertaining and discusses relevant topics and RPG news.
The only real problem is that Dungeons and Discourse sounds like everyone's ex-wife ever, all rolled into one.  She's more nasal than Pinocchio.

As much as I like some of their videos (Dungeoncraft and Dungeons and Discourse), I don't really trust either of them.  Both have shown deference to their friends in the past few months (D&D when there was a Youtube kerfluffle about some influencer and Dungeoncraft with his "reviews"), so I don't really trust their opinions.   But I do enjoy some of their content.

I actually don't disagree with this entirely, cuz they have shown their bias before. But what I do is that I take that bias into account without dismissing them entirely. Unfortunately, people siding with their friends is not an uncommon thing online, and I suspect many of us would do it as well (to some extend or another) if we became an online personality. I just wish people would disclose it more explicitly (specially with advertisings "reviews" and such).
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: S'mon on June 22, 2023, 02:34:11 AM
Quote from: VisionStorm on June 21, 2023, 03:39:44 PM
Also, since some non OSR channels came up above, I've been watching Dungeons and Discourse lately, just cuz I found her entertaining and discusses relevant topics and RPG news.

Yes I nearly mentioned Discourse. She has a very OSR friendly GM style that emphasises player choice & sandboxing, but most of her audience seem hostile and want linear railroads.

Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: S'mon on June 22, 2023, 02:49:34 AM
Quote from: Eirikrautha on June 21, 2023, 08:29:00 PM
The only real problem is that Dungeons and Discourse sounds like everyone's ex-wife ever, all rolled into one.  She's more nasal than Pinocchio.

Standard Belfast accent. My ex has a Tennessee drawl.  ;D
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: Eirikrautha on June 22, 2023, 12:28:00 PM
Quote from: S'mon on June 22, 2023, 02:49:34 AM
Quote from: Eirikrautha on June 21, 2023, 08:29:00 PM
The only real problem is that Dungeons and Discourse sounds like everyone's ex-wife ever, all rolled into one.  She's more nasal than Pinocchio.

Standard Belfast accent...

No wonder my ancestors fled there!  ;D
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: S'mon on June 22, 2023, 12:56:05 PM
Quote from: Eirikrautha on June 22, 2023, 12:28:00 PM
No wonder my ancestors fled there!  ;D

We Norn Iron have the best accent! https://youtu.be/8zSWlAHD29M?t=26
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: Eirikrautha on June 22, 2023, 07:24:07 PM
Quote from: S'mon on June 22, 2023, 12:56:05 PM
Quote from: Eirikrautha on June 22, 2023, 12:28:00 PM
No wonder my ancestors fled there!  ;D

We Norn Iron have the best accent! https://youtu.be/8zSWlAHD29M?t=26

Nah... too comprehensible.  A good Southern Scotsman or Geordie accent is amazing, and communicates absolutely nothing.  And Glaswegian is just... magnificent...
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: Fheredin on June 22, 2023, 10:27:33 PM
I don't watch many roleplaying videos on YT, really. The few exceptions are Dungeoncraft, The Alexandrian, and Seth Skorokowski, and 2 of the 3 aren't OSR.
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: ForgottenF on June 22, 2023, 10:34:24 PM
I've enjoyed some stuff from:

-BECMI Berserker
-Greyhawk Grognard
-JoeTheLawyer
-DM It All
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: tenbones on June 23, 2023, 12:00:43 AM
The only regular RPG channels I follow pretty regularly in no particular order

Dungeoncraft
RPGElite
Dungeondelver
GrimJim (but only for his gaming discussion, his political stuff is shit.)
ASavageWorldsGM

Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: VisionStorm on June 23, 2023, 07:51:25 AM
Quote from: tenbones on June 23, 2023, 12:00:43 AM
The only regular RPG channels I follow pretty regularly in no particular order

Dungeoncraft
RPGElite
Dungeondelver
GrimJim (but only for his gaming discussion, his political stuff is shit.)
ASavageWorldsGM

I used to watch GrimJim's political content years ago, but little by little the guy just went off the rails desperately trying to hold on to his leftwing identity. And his anti-"rightwing" arguments are just crap, beating on a strawman of a late 20th century caricature of a religious conservative, or whatever narrative the media is pushing about certain issues, like the pandemic hysteria. Which eventually led him to quit Inappropriate Characters to disassociate with Pundit, despite Pundit being demonstrably right about many of his views, and Jim just reasserting the prescribed media narrative or his views about whatever topic without properly refuting what people are actually saying. It just became hurtful to watch.
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: Steven Mitchell on June 23, 2023, 08:05:30 AM
There is no one I watch regularly.  The information contained in a typical video I could read in an article in 1/10 of the time or less.  I need to be really interested in the topic to put up with the delay.
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: tenbones on June 23, 2023, 09:56:32 AM
Quote from: VisionStorm on June 23, 2023, 07:51:25 AM
Quote from: tenbones on June 23, 2023, 12:00:43 AM
The only regular RPG channels I follow pretty regularly in no particular order

Dungeoncraft
RPGElite
Dungeondelver
GrimJim (but only for his gaming discussion, his political stuff is shit.)
ASavageWorldsGM

I used to watch GrimJim's political content years ago, but little by little the guy just went off the rails desperately trying to hold on to his leftwing identity. And his anti-"rightwing" arguments are just crap, beating on a strawman of a late 20th century caricature of a religious conservative, or whatever narrative the media is pushing about certain issues, like the pandemic hysteria. Which eventually led him to quit Inappropriate Characters to disassociate with Pundit, despite Pundit being demonstrably right about many of his views, and Jim just reasserting the prescribed media narrative or his views about whatever topic without properly refuting what people are actually saying. It just became hurtful to watch.

I agree. It's especially easy given how self-aware I am of the fact I'm Grim's polar opposite, as a Texan>American of mixed heritage, I think Grim needs to make a trip here to Lone Star and get some BBQ and whiskey in his belly, and roll some dice out here and get a better picture of reality. He'd have a gas if I took him to rifle-range.
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: THE_Leopold on June 23, 2023, 10:04:32 AM
Quote from: tenbones on June 23, 2023, 09:56:32 AM
Quote from: VisionStorm on June 23, 2023, 07:51:25 AM
Quote from: tenbones on June 23, 2023, 12:00:43 AM
The only regular RPG channels I follow pretty regularly in no particular order

Dungeoncraft
RPGElite
Dungeondelver
GrimJim (but only for his gaming discussion, his political stuff is shit.)
ASavageWorldsGM

I used to watch GrimJim's political content years ago, but little by little the guy just went off the rails desperately trying to hold on to his leftwing identity. And his anti-"rightwing" arguments are just crap, beating on a strawman of a late 20th century caricature of a religious conservative, or whatever narrative the media is pushing about certain issues, like the pandemic hysteria. Which eventually led him to quit Inappropriate Characters to disassociate with Pundit, despite Pundit being demonstrably right about many of his views, and Jim just reasserting the prescribed media narrative or his views about whatever topic without properly refuting what people are actually saying. It just became hurtful to watch.

I agree. It's especially easy given how self-aware I am of the fact I'm Grim's polar opposite, as a Texan>American of mixed heritage, I think Grim needs to make a trip here to Lone Star and get some BBQ and whiskey in his belly, and roll some dice out here and get a better picture of reality. He'd have a gas if I took him to rifle-range.

Jim would literally fall into a ball and collapse if he had to leave the house. Whatever medical pills he's on prevents him from going outside and talking to the world at large. He's on full disability in the UK, pulls in minimal dollars from RPG products. He's one step above Zak S from living in his proverbial car , which he probably does not have cause UK, with his cat.

Give him a gun? He would be utterly terrified of shooting it. You'd hear every excuse in the book why it's a "No Good Bad Idea".


Seeing Jim in the fresh air, sunshine, good food and drink would be the epitomie of the Babylon Bee series of the couple that moved to Texas from Commifornia.

I wish you all the best in helping Jim overcome his fear of Freedom, Liberty, and the pursuit of Touching Grass.


That being said, I'm all for a visit to Texas for Booze, Brisket, and Boom  Booms.
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: VengerSatanis on June 23, 2023, 03:38:08 PM

No one's going to say Venger Satanis?  Ok, that makes sense.  I've been hovering around a thousand subscribers for about 2 years now...

However, still worth watching!
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: Theory of Games on June 23, 2023, 03:50:07 PM
Eh.

Tim Kask, Hexed Press, Legion of Myth, Bear the Gen-X GM, Grim Jim, CondorDM, Unscripted & Unchained, Seth Skorkowsky and a few others. Good channels come and go. Mostly.
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: thedungeondelver on June 24, 2023, 02:34:37 AM
Quote from: tenbones on June 23, 2023, 12:00:43 AM
The only regular RPG channels I follow pretty regularly in no particular order

Dungeoncraft
RPGElite
Dungeondelver
GrimJim (but only for his gaming discussion, his political stuff is shit.)
ASavageWorldsGM

Thank you.
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: Ruprecht on June 26, 2023, 05:05:14 PM
Quote from: tenbones on June 23, 2023, 12:00:43 AM
GrimJim (but only for his gaming discussion, his political stuff is shit.)
GrimJim is at least on the correct side of the freedom of speech issue. It's not much but it puts him above the typical socialist.
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: honeydipperdavid on June 26, 2023, 05:47:04 PM
Seth Skorkowsky

https://www.youtube.com/@SSkorkowsky (https://www.youtube.com/@SSkorkowsky)

His earlier works covers a lot of the 1E/2E modules.  He does a fair bit about general DM'ing and his skits with characters are entertaining.  Last month he did the origin of the mimic as revenge for jerk ass players with him appearing to be portraying Gary Gygax from the glasses and wig and the coke (can't forget Gary's Hollywood days).  He does a lot more on traveler and cthulu today.
-side note: I've been there, I understand this skit 100%.  I created an entire race of dwarves with golems to deal with a player playing a broken class.  He's going to have to face copies of himself, but played much better.



Captcorajus

https://www.youtube.com/@captcorajus (https://www.youtube.com/@captcorajus)

He does a lot on older TSR content and modern content as well.  He just did a review of Dark Wizard Games new kickstarter for "Village on the borderlands".  You can see old games (car ward, heroquest, conan etc) as well.  A lot on Mystara as well, its a very good smattering of TSR and OSR content.  Content like Star Frontiers, Gamma World, OSR systems, unboxing authentic holmes edition dice (favorite), and in some modules he pushes modern maps to make them easier (really good for Expedition to Barrier Peaks - try mapping that out digitally I did it for the 1st level, took a look and said FUCK IT, I used his recommendation).
https://www.youtube.com/@captcorajus

Dungeon Craft

https://www.youtube.com/@DUNGEONCRAFT1/featured (https://www.youtube.com/@DUNGEONCRAFT1/featured)

He's been chasing the algo, not really increasing, but most of his stuff is decent. He has been focusing on WotC drama (chasing the algo) and current trends in 5E.  That being said, he does cover older content, like the passing of Russ Nicholson, the artist for Fiend Folio, DCC, Warlock, Warhammer Fantasy that everyone loves.  I didn't see that on other channels.  The details were dark and ghoulish in Fiend Folio, so much better than what WotC has ever put out.  I suggest skipping the latest drama on his channel he keeps schlocking out and go to his playlist and to the Campaign.  The Campaign is his take on livening up Keep on the Borderlands.  I used most of his content in it to liven up the old keep for the better.  Using a german named merchant the party rescues, putting a mutual trade for the monsters to explain why they are all in the caves of chaos, changing some of the monsters, hell putting in a drug in the caves wasn't half bad as well.  It makes for a much better starter module than the original.  He's got some good ideas on campaigns and running them.

Tim Cask

https://www.youtube.com/@kaskoid (https://www.youtube.com/@kaskoid)

He's one of the best living fossils from TSR sharing his views on game design, TSR history, his times acting as the editor for Dragon Magazine, working for Gary and answering questions from his audience.  It doesn't have a huge subscriber count, and its criminal.  Its a way to get some incite from someone from the TSR area hired by Gary with a lot of Gary's game design tendencies.  Think of it as the next best thing to ask Gygax for rulings.  When he dies, we lose a bit of history from the TSR days.  If you got some questions on old TSR, he's most likely literally the last guy you can ask, when he dies and he's old as dirt, that information is gone.
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: Beighsick Gnubee on June 27, 2023, 01:54:49 AM
Dungeoncraft is entertaining but he's been kinda losing me lately for some reason I can't put my finger on.

I've watched a couple captcorajus vids and liked his output.

Ben Milton/Questing Beast is clearly an OSR enthusiast and he's okay sometimes.

Bob World Builder seems to now be an OSR channel (DCC, Cairn, etc.) with occasional D&D commentary. I feel he's pretty genuine on-camera and there's something to be said for that.

Old Grognard Says (http://"https://www.youtube.com/@oldgrognardsays") is an AD&D 2e channel half the time. That still counts as OSR, right?

I also like BECMI Berzerker if I am not too tired when I start watching.

Actually, a lot of these videos are great when I just need to finish being put to sleep.
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: honeydipperdavid on June 27, 2023, 10:00:20 AM
Quote from: Beighsick Gnubee on June 27, 2023, 01:54:49 AM
Dungeoncraft is entertaining but he's been kinda losing me lately for some reason I can't put my finger on.

I've watched a couple captcorajus vids and liked his output.

Ben Milton/Questing Beast is clearly an OSR enthusiast and he's okay sometimes.

Bob World Builder seems to now be an OSR channel (DCC, Cairn, etc.) with occasional D&D commentary. I feel he's pretty genuine on-camera and there's something to be said for that.

Old Grognard Says (http://"https://www.youtube.com/@oldgrognardsays") is an AD&D 2e channel half the time. That still counts as OSR, right?

I also like BECMI Berzerker if I am not too tired when I start watching.

Actually, a lot of these videos are great when I just need to finish being put to sleep.

It's because Dungeoncraft has been chasing the algo and changing his content.  When WotC shit the bed, he followed that quite a bit.  His older campaign content is useful.  But I don't need another video telling me WotC screwed up.  WotC screwing up is like you own an incontinent dog and you are shocked he wet himself again.  There is nothing that WotC can do that I would not be surprised from.  I'm waiting for WotC to host Drag & Dungeons for 8 year olds in Seattle with registered sex offenders and they drug and rape everyone there.  It's WotC, they are woke, corrupt and stupid.
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: Klytus on June 28, 2023, 01:09:52 PM
Can't believe no one has mentioned The Dungeon Minister yet. Probably the most wholesome OSR channel on YT. It's a Canadian Anglican priest who runs BECMI for his wife and 3 sons.

https://www.youtube.com/@TheDungeonMinister
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: King Tyranno on June 28, 2023, 04:38:17 PM
I'll be honest, seeing the undeserved hype Shadowdark got from various OSR related You Tubers and the naked nepotism this showed really soured me on nearly all of them. I like BECMI Berserker. and I'll watch a bit of Seth and GrimJim every once in a while. But I struggle to really think of OSR You Tubers I watch beyond that.

I guess in general though I'm getting tired of seeing identical looking 40 to 50 year old neckbeards ramble to their shitty webcams. That's why I liked BECMI Berserker's more edited videos. We need more stuff like that. Polished, well thought out videos that respect your time.
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: RPGPundit on June 29, 2023, 09:28:00 PM
I have to admit the recent things going on regarding the BroSR has left me more soured with the group of Youtube "influencers", the OSR guys who mainly make money from youtube rather than producing games. Maybe as some of them start to produce more games, their priorities might change, but right now this is exactly the sort of stuff influencer-culture does to a hobby: a lot of them are more scared of losing subs than of doing the right thing. Not all of them, of course, but I noticed that the people who actually make OSR games were largely aligning to one side, the ones who only talk about games on youtube mostly aligning to the other side.
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: Brad on June 29, 2023, 09:53:42 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit on June 29, 2023, 09:28:00 PM
I have to admit the recent things going on regarding the BroSR has left me more soured with the group of Youtube "influencers", the OSR guys who mainly make money from youtube rather than producing games. Maybe as some of them start to produce more games, their priorities might change, but right now this is exactly the sort of stuff influencer-culture does to a hobby: a lot of them are more scared of losing subs than of doing the right thing. Not all of them, of course, but I noticed that the people who actually make OSR games were largely aligning to one side, the ones who only talk about games on youtube mostly aligning to the other side.

I'm completely unfamiliar with any of this stuff (i.e. "BroSR"); would you mind making a separate thread about it with specifics? Or at least give some detailed explanation in the Twitter one.
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: Persimmon on June 29, 2023, 11:56:56 PM
Seems like there are fewer decent OSR channels producing content these days.

I used to like Captcorajus, but he's really slowed down his production schedule.  Same with Ol Man Grognard.

Unscripted and Unchained is decent; I don't always agree with his takes, but he produces lots of content and covers games I like.

Questing Beast is a sniveling little crap weasel.  That Bear guy is also really annoying.  Most of the others these days are hit or miss.
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: Rob Necronomicon on June 30, 2023, 06:29:50 AM
Quote from: Persimmon on June 29, 2023, 11:56:56 PM
Questing Beast is a sniveling little crap weasel.

He was okay until I learned about paid reviews.
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: Persimmon on June 30, 2023, 07:35:11 AM
Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on June 30, 2023, 06:29:50 AM
Quote from: Persimmon on June 29, 2023, 11:56:56 PM
Questing Beast is a sniveling little crap weasel.

He was okay until I learned about paid reviews.

And takes down positive reviews at the instigation of the Twitter mob.  But he's also just so smug.
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: Rob Necronomicon on June 30, 2023, 07:42:44 AM
Quote from: Persimmon on June 30, 2023, 07:35:11 AM
Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on June 30, 2023, 06:29:50 AM
Quote from: Persimmon on June 29, 2023, 11:56:56 PM
Questing Beast is a sniveling little crap weasel.

He was okay until I learned about paid reviews.

And takes down positive reviews at the instigation of the Twitter mob.  But he's also just so smug.

Indeed!
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: shoplifter on June 30, 2023, 09:05:05 AM
Quote from: tenbones on June 23, 2023, 09:56:32 AM

I agree. It's especially easy given how self-aware I am of the fact I'm Grim's polar opposite, as a Texan>American of mixed heritage, I think Grim needs to make a trip here to Lone Star and get some BBQ and whiskey in his belly, and roll some dice out here and get a better picture of reality. He'd have a gas if I took him to rifle-range.

Jim has always come across to me as the typical european classical liberal, which is always going to be a little more left leaning than folks in that group in the US. He certainly has a good bit of left-libertarian leanings which puts him in the same spot as me on a lot of stuff, but we also disagree on quite a bit. The nicest thing I could say about Jim (we're friends on Facebook and I won't claim to know him personally, but I think he'd take this as a compliment) is that he has strong principles and sticks to them rather than simply being a hypocrite and that he values open dialogue rather than orthodoxy. I also think he's intelligent enough to figure out that the far left are not his friends in the long term and will eventually come around to that.

To keep this more topical, I also like his reviews as he tends to find the same faults in products that I do.
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: King Tyranno on June 30, 2023, 09:30:49 AM
Quote from: Brad on June 29, 2023, 09:53:42 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit on June 29, 2023, 09:28:00 PM
I have to admit the recent things going on regarding the BroSR has left me more soured with the group of Youtube "influencers", the OSR guys who mainly make money from youtube rather than producing games. Maybe as some of them start to produce more games, their priorities might change, but right now this is exactly the sort of stuff influencer-culture does to a hobby: a lot of them are more scared of losing subs than of doing the right thing. Not all of them, of course, but I noticed that the people who actually make OSR games were largely aligning to one side, the ones who only talk about games on youtube mostly aligning to the other side.

I'm completely unfamiliar with any of this stuff (i.e. "BroSR"); would you mind making a separate thread about it with specifics? Or at least give some detailed explanation in the Twitter one.

Personally I'm aware of the BroSR as a vaguely homoerotic group of nerds with a very specific way of playing ADnD 1e with a 1:1 real time time scale and patron play. Trollopolus was their big mega shared campaign. Everything happened in real time in the different groups, and you had different high level players as patrons who essentially almost played a strategy game that the player groups then had to react to dynamically. Which then meant the patrons had to also react to the players.

I found the idea very interesting and it's something I want to do but the BroSR intermix all of this with memes from Gachimuchi and Gay porn whilst also saying this is the only true way to play DnD "As Gygax intended.". Whilst also being very rude to any critiques with hyperbolic twitter threads and even more gay porn posting.

I don't mean that to disparage any actual gay people. The BroSR legit have a weird fascination with Gay porn that makes me wonder how many of them are in the closet. It has nothing to do with DnD. I just want to read about the campaign.

I too am interested in what has happened to them recently, Pundit. Hopefully with the weird stuff filtered out.
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: RPGPundit on July 01, 2023, 03:27:08 AM
Jeffro Johnson, essentially the leader of the broSR, began posting some openly antisemitic tweets. When he was called out on this, the response of a significant number of other BroSR accounts was to say that he's right, and to share their own ideas about "the jews". This shouldn't be all that surprising given that Castalia House is Jeffro's publisher (of his book about Appendix N).

A certain Youtube channel decided to have him on their livestream, which in and of itself is a free choice, but were explicit about saying that they would not be addressing his political views at all, in spite of the fact that he presented his views on Jews on the exact same venue he presents his ideas about AD&D Rules-as-written etc etc.
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: S'mon on July 01, 2023, 04:28:27 AM
These guys obviously have negative views of Jews, which is what I would call anti-Semitic. Theodore Beale (Vox Day) is far-Right and anti-Semitic. He's a massive asshole with no obvious redeeming features, with his cult leader mentality he reminds me of a right wing Ron Edwards. He also publishes the conservative Israeli & Jewish military historian Martin Van Creveld alongside Jeffro Johnson, you can see books from both of them on the first page of Castalia's bookstore. He's obviously not a Nazi. Johnson is obviously not a Nazi either, no matter how obnoxious he is. A Twitter suspension for "Nazis get the hammer" seems pretty unsurprising to me. They'd have done the same if you'd said the same to some leftist Palestinian or rainbow-hair SJW anti-Semite, too. If anything I think it's good Twitter moderation seems less slanted now.
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: tenbones on July 01, 2023, 05:18:18 AM
Quote from: shoplifter on June 30, 2023, 09:05:05 AM
Quote from: tenbones on June 23, 2023, 09:56:32 AM

I agree. It's especially easy given how self-aware I am of the fact I'm Grim's polar opposite, as a Texan>American of mixed heritage, I think Grim needs to make a trip here to Lone Star and get some BBQ and whiskey in his belly, and roll some dice out here and get a better picture of reality. He'd have a gas if I took him to rifle-range.

Jim has always come across to me as the typical european classical liberal, which is always going to be a little more left leaning than folks in that group in the US. He certainly has a good bit of left-libertarian leanings which puts him in the same spot as me on a lot of stuff, but we also disagree on quite a bit. The nicest thing I could say about Jim (we're friends on Facebook and I won't claim to know him personally, but I think he'd take this as a compliment) is that he has strong principles and sticks to them rather than simply being a hypocrite and that he values open dialogue rather than orthodoxy. I also think he's intelligent enough to figure out that the far left are not his friends in the long term and will eventually come around to that.

I totally get it. I'm very empathetic to the views of Europeans in general (my wife was raised in France - and she's Irish/Austrian) in relation to the social values of Americans... much less Texans which I likewise hold as different than other Americans (in general). That's why I happily extend him an offer to come hang here in TX to give him a different perspective outside of the bubble he lives in. At minimum I can guarantee I can show him a good time that will go diametrically against what he thinks is true. If nothing else, he'll eat and drink very well and have good gaming.

Quote from: shoplifter on June 30, 2023, 09:05:05 AMTo keep this more topical, I also like his reviews as he tends to find the same faults in products that I do.

Generally the same for me.
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: Theory of Games on July 01, 2023, 09:04:26 AM
Honorable Mention: there's an OSR channel run by a cat named Meatball that takes deep dives into the Old-School Revival, trending topics in the overall hobby and she's a shameless shill for her own books. Sometimes the covers are hard to see because she stands in front of or on them, but great podcast nonetheless! Pretty sure she was also nominated for the Diana Jones award, so stop by and give Meatball a sub and send tuna!

Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: RPGPundit on July 03, 2023, 05:45:21 AM
Quote from: S'mon on July 01, 2023, 04:28:27 AM
These guys obviously have negative views of Jews, which is what I would call anti-Semitic. Theodore Beale (Vox Day) is far-Right and anti-Semitic. He's a massive asshole with no obvious redeeming features, with his cult leader mentality he reminds me of a right wing Ron Edwards. He also publishes the conservative Israeli & Jewish military historian Martin Van Creveld alongside Jeffro Johnson, you can see books from both of them on the first page of Castalia's bookstore. He's obviously not a Nazi. Johnson is obviously not a Nazi either, no matter how obnoxious he is. A Twitter suspension for "Nazis get the hammer" seems pretty unsurprising to me. They'd have done the same if you'd said the same to some leftist Palestinian or rainbow-hair SJW anti-Semite, too. If anything I think it's good Twitter moderation seems less slanted now.

Yes, I recognize the irony that if this was pre-Musk twitter there wouldn't have been a chance in hell I would have been banned, even if I threatened to disembowel them or something.
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: RPGPundit on July 03, 2023, 05:46:30 AM
I fully recognize that Meatball is the real star of the show.
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: rkhigdon on July 03, 2023, 12:56:51 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit on July 03, 2023, 05:46:30 AM
I fully recognize that Meatball is the real star of the show.

True.

Though I admit I've been having a hard time watching since the loss of Big Chungus... :'(
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: RPGPundit on July 05, 2023, 01:04:49 AM
Quote from: rkhigdon on July 03, 2023, 12:56:51 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit on July 03, 2023, 05:46:30 AM
I fully recognize that Meatball is the real star of the show.

True.

Though I admit I've been having a hard time watching since the loss of Big Chungus... :'(

We all miss Big Chungus. But that's the nature of life.
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: Cathode Ray on July 05, 2023, 07:23:07 PM
i don't do YouRube, but I watched and enjoyed a few Max Liau's Legion of Myth Rumble posts recently.
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: tenbones on July 06, 2023, 02:08:34 AM
Quote from: Cathode Ray on July 05, 2023, 07:23:07 PM
i don't do YouRube, but I watched and enjoyed a few Max Liau's Legion of Myth Rumble posts recently.

yeah Legion of Myth is cool. I should have remembered to put them on my list. Their coverage of Rifts is *superb*.
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: Spinachcat on July 08, 2023, 10:18:16 PM
Any OSR YouTuber who keeps it short and sweet?

AKA, under 10 minutes?
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: Brad on July 08, 2023, 11:15:42 PM
Quote from: Spinachcat on July 08, 2023, 10:18:16 PM
Any OSR YouTuber who keeps it short and sweet?

AKA, under 10 minutes?

Me, my videos are usually 5 minutes or less.
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: S'mon on July 09, 2023, 03:10:05 AM
Quote from: Spinachcat on July 08, 2023, 10:18:16 PM
Any OSR YouTuber who keeps it short and sweet?

AKA, under 10 minutes?

I think Dungeon Craft fits that - usually around 8 minutes https://www.youtube.com/@DUNGEONCRAFT1
If he counts as OSR, & I think of him as at least OSR adjacent, his Deathbringer RPG is pretty squarely OSR.
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: El-V on July 10, 2023, 04:24:02 AM
Personally I like Owen Edwards and the Page 121 guy, along with Joe Bloch, Dungeon Delver,  the Grumpy Old Grognard and DD.
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: dirkdouglas on July 22, 2023, 03:07:44 AM
Quote from: Persimmon on June 30, 2023, 07:35:11 AM
Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on June 30, 2023, 06:29:50 AM
Quote from: Persimmon on June 29, 2023, 11:56:56 PM
Questing Beast is a sniveling little crap weasel.

He was okay until I learned about paid reviews.

And takes down positive reviews at the instigation of the Twitter mob.  But he's also just so smug.

Which review did he take down?
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: Baron on July 22, 2023, 09:54:46 AM
Quote from: Steven Mitchell on June 23, 2023, 08:05:30 AM
There is no one I watch regularly.  The information contained in a typical video I could read in an article in 1/10 of the time or less.  I need to be really interested in the topic to put up with the delay.

I'm with this guy. I read.

I'm old enough to remember the horror of being at someone's house and having them drag out the projector to show their home movies. For me, watching Youtube is on a par with that. Humans didn't suddenly evolve into filmmakers. I can't watch.
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: Persimmon on July 22, 2023, 11:27:47 AM
Quote from: dirkdouglas on July 22, 2023, 03:07:44 AM
Quote from: Persimmon on June 30, 2023, 07:35:11 AM
Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on June 30, 2023, 06:29:50 AM
Quote from: Persimmon on June 29, 2023, 11:56:56 PM
Questing Beast is a sniveling little crap weasel.

He was okay until I learned about paid reviews.

And takes down positive reviews at the instigation of the Twitter mob.  But he's also just so smug.



















Which review did he take down?

ACKS.  Others like the Gaming Gang guy virtue signaled that they hated Macris' political stances (apparently working with that Milo guy who's no longer relevant), but admitted that ACKS was a solid game not infused with the creator's political views.  But pathetic little whiny Ben just took his down after being mobbed for not inherently hating the game.
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: QuestingBeast on July 22, 2023, 11:47:18 AM
Hey, Ben here. Just heard about this discussion. It's perfectly fine if you don't like me, but what's not fine is inventing things I've done out of thin air.

1. I don't know who the Gaming Gang is.

2. No one ever mobbed me about ACKS.

3. I didn't take down the ACKS video because...

4. I never made a video about ACKS. I don't own it and have never read it.

5. What the hell is wrong with you?
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: Zalman on July 23, 2023, 07:47:16 AM
Quote from: QuestingBeast on July 22, 2023, 11:47:18 AM
Hey, Ben here. Just heard about this discussion. It's perfectly fine if you don't like me, but what's not fine is inventing things I've done out of thin air.

1. I don't know who the Gaming Gang is.

2. No one ever mobbed me about ACKS.

3. I didn't take down the ACKS video because...

4. I never made a video about ACKS. I don't own it and have never read it.

5. What the hell is wrong with you?

Welcome Ben, and thank you for stopping by to discuss the accusation! This is pretty interesting information, which makes me wonder where the notion originated. It's not the first time I've heard it on these boards, so possible the poster in this thread is repeating hearsay.
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: rkhigdon on July 23, 2023, 09:16:22 PM
Maybe the Jason Hobbs review?  He took it down twice as I recall.
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: dirkdouglas on July 24, 2023, 03:09:24 PM
Who is Hobbs?

Nevermind, found the podcast
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: QuestingBeast on July 24, 2023, 03:23:09 PM
Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on June 30, 2023, 06:29:50 AM
Quote from: Persimmon on June 29, 2023, 11:56:56 PM
Questing Beast is a sniveling little crap weasel.

He was okay until I learned about paid reviews.

I've made about four or five videos that were paid for to help promote someone's Kickstarter. In each of those cases, I clearly state that the video is sponsored at the beginning, so it's not like it's some sort of secret. However, I only make one of those videos if I like the product already. I turn down kickstarter promotions all the time because I don't like the product.

The rest of my reviews (of which I've made hundreds) are not sponsored by the product's authors.
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: Slambo on July 24, 2023, 05:03:25 PM
Quote from: QuestingBeast on July 24, 2023, 03:23:09 PM
Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on June 30, 2023, 06:29:50 AM
Quote from: Persimmon on June 29, 2023, 11:56:56 PM
Questing Beast is a sniveling little crap weasel.

He was okay until I learned about paid reviews.

I've made about four or five videos that were paid for to help promote someone's Kickstarter. In each of those cases, I clearly state that the video is sponsored at the beginning, so it's not like it's some sort of secret. However, I only make one of those videos if I like the product already. I turn down kickstarter promotions all the time because I don't like the product.

The rest of my reviews (of which I've made hundreds) are not sponsored by the product's authors.

Hello Ben, i am glad to hear this. I first heard the accusation about a review being deleted from another youtube channel and i could have sworn i had seen a review on your channel at some point but couldnt find it. As for the paid reviews thing  i recall reading somewhere that it was said in defense of Shadowdark a paid review that people said all your reviews were paid. I dont exactly remeber where i heard that one.

So, ive been guilty of spreading those rumors and i apologize for it.
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: QuestingBeast on July 24, 2023, 05:33:26 PM
Thanks, I appreciate that.
Title: Re: Favorite OSR Youtube Channels?
Post by: THE_Leopold on July 24, 2023, 07:37:27 PM
Quote from: QuestingBeast on July 24, 2023, 03:23:09 PM
Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on June 30, 2023, 06:29:50 AM
Quote from: Persimmon on June 29, 2023, 11:56:56 PM
Questing Beast is a sniveling little crap weasel.

He was okay until I learned about paid reviews.

I've made about four or five videos that were paid for to help promote someone's Kickstarter. In each of those cases, I clearly state that the video is sponsored at the beginning, so it's not like it's some sort of secret. However, I only make one of those videos if I like the product already. I turn down kickstarter promotions all the time because I don't like the product.

The rest of my reviews (of which I've made hundreds) are not sponsored by the product's authors.

The amount of hell you got on these boards for posting about Shadowdark was Legendary.  We will see who comes out of the woodwork to decry you for said commission.  I personally will grab a dumptruck full of popcorn to await the keyboard warriors utter silent treatment.