that would be the one

Way back in 2012 Tavis Allston of Autarch told me, "Don't start a Kickstarter until your manuscript is done."

Best advice I've gotten in decades.

As someone who backed the game way back when, I thank my lucky stars that I only put down $10 for the pdf of it.  Honestly, the results have been terrible, but there's only so much shaking the trees and complaining I'm willing to do for $10 - why should I let Skarka live in my head when he owes me money?

Thank god I didn't back Mekton Zero - I used to be a big Mekton fan.

Honestly, most kickstarters do fulfill.  There's less than a dozen that I would say I got stiffed on, and that's out of over 200 projects I've backed.  I may not get every stretch goal, but I don't get too worried about them even if I would like to get them.  (I mean, it was nice that I got DCC six-siders and a dice bag from the DCC 4th edition kickstarter, but I wouldn't have been upset if they hadn't arrived.)

As an amusing side note, my daughter was born during the original kickstarter, and has just turned 6.  

He hasn't bothered to post an update in months.

Why KS allows this shit to continue is as baffling as why the backers do.

Quote from: Biscuitician;984723He hasn't bothered to post an update in months.

Why KS allows this shit to continue is as baffling as why the backers do.

1) Kickstarter allows this shit to continue because they already *got* their cut.  They present themselves as the antique mall that hosts multiple sellers in stalls - if the guy in stall 42 stiffed you, it's not the Mall's fault.  

2) The backers have given up and gone away.  Some of them continue to complain, but the squeakiest wheels already got their refunds and have washed their hands of the project.  Others most likely have forgotten the project, were and are friends of Gareths who have forgiven his debt, or otherwise just figure continuing to worry about a rpg that obviously isn't going to happen is pretty low on their list of priorities.  I mean, my wife's got Leukemia, and although there's a good chance she'll pull through, there's a sizeable chance that she won't.  What do I care about $10 I spent six years ago?  I spend that much each month on Dropbox.

Maybe we could narrow this down to "Far West RPG: what went right?"

Quote from: Dumarest;984749Maybe we could narrow this down to "Far West RPG: what went right?"

Well, he did release the collection of short stories that he'd promised.  I haven't read it, but I remember downloading a copy of it.  (Again, as a pdf.  I don't think the story collection was ever intended to be published as a physical book.)

Quote from: jcfiala;9847251) Kickstarter allows this shit to continue because they already *got* their cut.  They present themselves as the antique mall that hosts multiple sellers in stalls - if the guy in stall 42 stiffed you, it's not the Mall's fault.  

2) The backers have given up and gone away.  Some of them continue to complain, but the squeakiest wheels already got their refunds and have washed their hands of the project.  Others most likely have forgotten the project, were and are friends of Gareths who have forgiven his debt, or otherwise just figure continuing to worry about a rpg that obviously isn't going to happen is pretty low on their list of priorities.  I mean, my wife's got Leukemia, and although there's a good chance she'll pull through, there's a sizeable chance that she won't.  What do I care about $10 I spent six years ago?  I spend that much each month on Dropbox.

Very sorry to hear about your wife.

So, hey! Funny story.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/Adamant/far-west-western-wuxia-mashup-adventure-game/posts/2176530

He updated again. I'mma just leave this here for y'all. I'm sure someone will have some kind of opinion about it. I'm just gonna keep watching.

I need more popcorn.

Quote from: Jetstream;1036943So, hey! Funny story.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/Adamant/far-west-western-wuxia-mashup-adventure-game/posts/2176530

He updated again. I'mma just leave this here for y'all. I'm sure someone will have some kind of opinion about it. I'm just gonna keep watching.

I need more popcorn.

Well, I'm a little more excited by a d6 version of the game rather than a d20 version, myself.  I will be pleasantly surprised if I get a game by July, but I'm certainly not going to make any plans for an August campaign.

What I want to know is why L. Ron Hubbard is a character in this game?

It's Xenu's revenge for L. Ron exposing the truth about Midichlorians!

So why not just get Eric Trautmann to write it (instead of the supposed layout)? I remember talking with him on usenet back in the day when he was with WEG. I'm sure he could have it out by July.

Also, is there a worse artist than Rick Hershey working in the industry? It's like he attempts to be both photorealistic and abstract at the same time

I'd laugh but I backed Topher Gerkey's Rosemont Bay five years ago.

Quote from: JeremyR;1037244Also, is there a worse artist than Rick Hershey working in the industry? It's like he attempts to be both photorealistic and abstract at the same time

Rich hasn't been attached to this for years. That image Pundit posted was likely one of the ones GMS photo manipulated himself. He started doing that a few years ago, which led to some pointing out he used a few pictures he didn't have the right to use (as someone else owned the rights to them) or something to that effect.

I avoided this because I got burned on the ICONS Team Up pre-order (where people were promised a 10 buck coupon for the Adamant webstore. I am still waiting for mine, but never expect to see it). I did go through a similar situation with the Gallery of Evil KS from Spectrum. That at least dropped the pdf, and I got a partial refund down to the digital level (well, it was more than a partial). Similar situations, but I think for all the bad flack Cynthia has gotten over that and the CAH KS, she's still willing to give refunds 6 years later if requested. And CAH did get released in print; some supplements are still owed now