6 years, no communication with his bankers. Extraordinary! Career suicide surely (although he's written for a number of products in the meantime, ironically)

Never heard of it.

What was it meant to be about?

Quote from: HorusArisen;980222Never heard of it.

What was it meant to be about?

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/Adamant/far-west-western-wuxia-mashup-adventure-game/description

isn't it supposed to be out ANY DAY NOW?!?

Quote from: remial;980234isn't it supposed to be out ANY DAY NOW?!?

Like HeroQuest 25th Anniversary. Only longer.

Quote from: HorusArisen;980222Never heard of it.

What was it meant to be about?

One of a few projects this "designer" has had funded and then given an endless song and dance routine for years. While still conveniently working on other things.

There older threads on the whole debacle. And others. At least three of these allmost-scams.

Quote from: Omega;980236One of a few projects this "designer" has had funded and then given an endless song and dance routine for years. While still conveniently working on other things.

There older threads on the whole debacle. And others. At least three of these allmost-scams.

So he finally delivered?  Because otherwise, I'd call 'em scams, nothing almost about it.

After the debacle that was the ICONS Team-Up pre-order, I chose to avoid this KS. Every time someone mentions Far West, I laugh to myself and think "Glad I dodged that bullet!"

It's like watching a car crash. It's just horrible but you can't tear yourself away.

I'd have bought it if it was ever on sale.

But he can't even be bothered to TALK to his backers! The whole thing is insane. What would it cost him to just actually explain to them what on earth is going wrong. I sympathise with genuine family/health issues, but if you drag out a project long enough inevitably one or more of thse will crop up. Simple law of averages.

I think Kickstarter should just cancel projects like that. Delete the page. This is never going to be fulfilled and at this point I think the backers need to wake up to themselves and not peddle the forlorn hope that they will ever see anything out of this.

Quote from: Christopher Brady;980237So he finally delivered?  Because otherwise, I'd call 'em scams, nothing almost about it.

I wouldn't call this a scam per se, but he is definitely hiding something. He has not been forthcoming with anything approaching the truth. Meanwehile he has writing credits in the Dr Who rpg I see, and, iirc (though i see no mention in the credits) he was involved in the Star Trek rpg and possibly Conan (i seem to recall something about a boycott on rpg.net back in the day).

At one point Cubicle 7 were to publish the game, but, for reasons undivulged, that fell through.

God knows how much worse this would have been had he only received the five grand he asked for, not fifty.

But then perhaps that's the problem; he wanted to tout this as a transmedia property and I think went to tinsel town to see if he could sell it

Shame sounds interesting if not my cup of tea. I'm sure those backers are feeling frustrated about the lack of communication.

He's a hack and doesn't know how to handle project management?

Kickstarter, especially earlier KS projects, gave people with no project management skills, business, very poor ability to budget and forecast expenses large sums of money and we are shocked that these things fail. I'm willing to bet that a lot of these failed KS projects have project creators comingling their funds with the KS funds and once that is done....game over man.

My biggest problem with this jack ass is that he gets on social media and uses the "I'm fighting for SJ" as a deflection away from his actual failure. He has no time to finish his project but plenty of time and money to head to various conventions. He's a prick.

Quote from: Ulairi;980266Kickstarter, especially earlier KS projects, gave people with no project management skills, business, very poor ability to budget and forecast expenses large sums of money and we are shocked that these things fail. I'm willing to bet that a lot of these failed KS projects have project creators comingling their funds with the KS funds and once that is done....game over man.

Of the dozens of projects I've backed, RPGs have consistently been the worst.  Whether it's John Wick not proofing his products, or James Wallis being years late on a product he said was ready (and whining for years, while working on a lackluster Paranoia despite promising not to take on other projects), TTRPGS from even big name professionals (Wallis ran a publishing company!) have proven disappointing.  Which isn't to say they've -all- been bad, but at this point I've decided the risk-to-reward ratio simply isn't there.  Maybe if I wanted PDFs I'd feel differently, because -that- is where you can get some absurdly good deals, but I don't care about PDFs except as a way to see if I want to buy the print product.

I have yet to see a KS for TTRPGs that didn't offer something exclusive (e.g. deluxe printing, boxed set, etc.) and you were better off backing the KS than waiting for retail discounters or same-price POD options.

Quote from: san dee jota;980272Of the dozens of projects I've backed, RPGs have consistently been the worst.  Whether it's John Wick not proofing his products, or James Wallis being years late on a product he said was ready (and whining for years, while working on a lackluster Paranoia despite promising not to take on other projects), TTRPGS from even big name professionals (Wallis ran a publishing company!) have proven disappointing.  Which isn't to say they've -all- been bad, but at this point I've decided the risk-to-reward ratio simply isn't there.  Maybe if I wanted PDFs I'd feel differently, because -that- is where you can get some absurdly good deals, but I don't care about PDFs except as a way to see if I want to buy the print product.

I have yet to see a KS for TTRPGs that didn't offer something exclusive (e.g. deluxe printing, boxed set, etc.) and you were better off backing the KS than waiting for retail discounters or same-price POD options.

I'v backed a few but after my experience with Goodman Games and the forever late 4th printing and how MCC was released...I'm kind of over it. I also backed Aces & Eights to the tune of $500 only to find out that Jolly is a total partisan and I'm expecting it to be very late as well.

Q: Far West RPG what went wrong?

A: He didn't write the game before seeking funding.