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Title: Fantasy Price List Wanted
Post by: rgrove0172 on November 13, 2017, 11:42:48 AM
Hey Guys, Im cranking up a new campaign using Fantasy Age and hate flipping through various other rulebooks to find price lists for everything that comes up during play. Anybody got a master price list of items (weapons, foods, gear, animal stock, clothing etc.) they can recommend? Surely somebody has some massive spreadsheet out there that covers it all?

Thanks in advance
Title: Fantasy Price List Wanted
Post by: estar on November 13, 2017, 01:12:36 PM
Quote from: rgrove0172;1007535Hey Guys, Im cranking up a new campaign using Fantasy Age and hate flipping through various other rulebooks to find price lists for everything that comes up during play. Anybody got a master price list of items (weapons, foods, gear, animal stock, clothing etc.) they can recommend? Surely somebody has some massive spreadsheet out there that covers it all?

Thanks in advance
Majestic Wilderlands

Majestic Wilderlands Price List (http://www.batintheattic.com/downloads/MajesticWilderlandsPrice%20List.pdf)

A shorter one I created for my own campaign
Majestic Wilderland Price List for Fantasy Age (https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=0Bx9oLF40m-b8aWtyQ2pSdjJWOEE).
Note: It contains house rules from my Fantasy Age Variant.

I print the first one for myself and the second for the players. It rare they need an item that not on the second list but it does come up occasionally.

Money system

1d = 1 silver penny = 1 silver piece; 250d = 1 pound of weight
1gp = 20d; 250 gp = 1 pound of weight.
1 crown = 320d; 16 crowns = 1 pound of weight.

Harn
My pricing is based on the work done for Harn. They have a variety price lists you can pick from.

Price list from Lythia.com (https://www.lythia.com/index.php?s=price+list).
Title: Fantasy Price List Wanted
Post by: rgrove0172 on November 13, 2017, 01:57:05 PM
Looks good. So using the "d" as a standard silver piece as base currency should fir your price in to the more conventional 10cp=10sp=10gp system.
Title: Fantasy Price List Wanted
Post by: flyingmice on November 13, 2017, 02:19:37 PM
Quote from: rgrove0172;1007551Looks good. So using the "d" as a standard silver piece as base currency should fir your price in to the more conventional 10cp=10sp=10gp system.

I think you mean 100cp = 10sp = 1 gp, rgove. Is that correct?
Title: Fantasy Price List Wanted
Post by: estar on November 13, 2017, 02:21:21 PM
Quote from: rgrove0172;1007551Looks good. So using the "d" as a standard silver piece as base currency should fir your price in to the more conventional 10cp=10sp=10gp system.

In general I find that players respond best to a single coin pricing system with one really valuable coin that used in-game. In my case players get their hands on silver pennies all the time with gold crowns (1 oz. 320d) being much more rare.

For example the reaction I get from players finding 450d is typical of what I experienced since 1978 when I started playing D&D. However they invariably go wow! when they find a stash of 12 crowns (3,840d).

If you use this you need to make the valuable coin a lot more valuable and not like platinum piece which was 5 gp in AD&D and 10 gp in later systems. I did this by keeping the 20 to 1 ratio between gold and silver and increased the weight of the gold coin to 1 ounce (half dollar size) instead of 1 dram (dime size).

For small change I have the farthing (f). In my campaign it is a silver penny cut into 4 pieces. The various realm design their dies to score the coin to make this easier. If you want copper pieces you could do that as well.

I pretty much apply this to every fantasy RPG I use. I convert all the prices in to silver pieces and go from there.
Title: Fantasy Price List Wanted
Post by: rgrove0172 on November 13, 2017, 03:50:27 PM
Yes, just a matter of how you are referring to it. 1 GP = 10sp and 1 sp = 10cp. The various pricelists here (For Harn apparently) are excellent but deviate a good bit from those I have been using. Not to change in the exchange rate makes them a little confusing to use.
Title: Fantasy Price List Wanted
Post by: rgrove0172 on November 13, 2017, 03:51:29 PM
Quote from: estar;1007544Majestic Wilderlands

Majestic Wilderlands Price List (http://www.batintheattic.com/downloads/MajesticWilderlandsPrice%20List.pdf)

A shorter one I created for my own campaign
Majestic Wilderland Price List for Fantasy Age (https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=0Bx9oLF40m-b8aWtyQ2pSdjJWOEE).
Note: It contains house rules from my Fantasy Age Variant.

I print the first one for myself and the second for the players. It rare they need an item that not on the second list but it does come up occasionally.

Money system

1d = 1 silver penny = 1 silver piece; 250d = 1 pound of weight
1gp = 20d; 250 gp = 1 pound of weight.
1 crown = 320d; 16 crowns = 1 pound of weight.

Harn
My pricing is based on the work done for Harn. They have a variety price lists you can pick from.

Price list from Lythia.com (https://www.lythia.com/index.php?s=price+list).

These are very well done but wow, there are some BIG changes such as the price of weapons and armor. The increase is almost 10 fold for some items. I suppose this might be more accurate historically but its a big change.
Title: Fantasy Price List Wanted
Post by: estar on November 13, 2017, 04:09:21 PM
Quote from: rgrove0172;1007578These are very well done but wow, there are some BIG changes such as the price of weapons and armor. The increase is almost 10 fold for some items. I suppose this might be more accurate historically but its a big change.

Just change starting wealth by the same amount. Factor in the character's social class for access to specific items like horses and heavy armor. There nothing special about Fantasy Age prices that warrants it as a requirement of the game. It pretty bland in my opinion.
Title: Fantasy Price List Wanted
Post by: rgrove0172 on November 14, 2017, 09:38:25 AM
I agree, I dumped it in favor of a separate list entirely.
Title: Fantasy Price List Wanted
Post by: RPGPundit on November 16, 2017, 05:06:21 AM
Well, I don't think it's as definitive as you would want, but the price list in Dark Albion is based on real medieval prices. You can adapt it to standard D&D assuming that 1 shilling = 1gp.
Title: Fantasy Price List Wanted
Post by: Tod13 on November 16, 2017, 09:26:57 AM
Sounds like between this thread and the other threads you started, you wanted in on the Orbis Mundi 2 Kickstarter. It has historical pricing and coinage information. I haven't had a chance to read that section yet. (450 pages in the first book.)
Title: Fantasy Price List Wanted
Post by: RunningLaser on November 16, 2017, 09:54:12 AM
Not to threadjack, but rgrove- how are you liking Fantasy Age so far?  I know you were asking about it before.
Title: Fantasy Price List Wanted
Post by: soltakss on November 17, 2017, 02:50:59 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit;1008048Well, I don't think it's as definitive as you would want, but the price list in Dark Albion is based on real medieval prices. You can adapt it to standard D&D assuming that 1 shilling = 1gp.

The Merrie England series used real medieval prices as far as possible, too, using the LSD system (Pounds, Shillings and Pence, not anything trippy).
Title: Fantasy Price List Wanted
Post by: RPGPundit on November 19, 2017, 12:49:49 PM
Quote from: soltakss;1008273The Merrie England series used real medieval prices as far as possible, too, using the LSD system (Pounds, Shillings and Pence, not anything trippy).

I used pennies shillings and pounds, though simplified the ratios somewhat (for the north americans).
Title: Fantasy Price List Wanted
Post by: soltakss on November 19, 2017, 03:48:51 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit;1008481I used pennies shillings and pounds, though simplified the ratios somewhat (for the north americans).

Don't worry, it's not just the North Americans who struggle. I worked in a hosiery factory and we were audited, one of the auditors was a youngish women, probably just out of college. The person who showed her around was explaining that we produce tights (panty hose) and stockings and made so amny hundreds of dozens a day, when the young lady as ked "Excuse me, what's a dozen?".
Title: Fantasy Price List Wanted
Post by: Gronan of Simmerya on November 19, 2017, 05:14:01 PM
Bah!  I pound sterling is 20 shillings, and 12 pence to a shilling!  By the King's law!

And don't forget, the shilling as a coin didn't exist until the time of Henry VIII, it was purely a money of account.

And also don't forget the farthing and groat.

Oh, yeah, and the mark, which was ALSO a money of account but most records are kept in it!

Wheeeeee!
Title: Fantasy Price List Wanted
Post by: darthfozzywig on November 19, 2017, 05:33:36 PM
Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;1008498And also don't forget the farthing and groat.


Freaking George R. R. Martin won't let me forget the groat, since every character is ASoIaF says they "wouldn't give half a groat" in every other flippin' conversation.
Title: Fantasy Price List Wanted
Post by: estar on November 19, 2017, 06:28:04 PM
Quote from: darthfozzywig;1008499Freaking George R. R. Martin won't let me forget the groat, since every character is ASoIaF says they "wouldn't give half a groat" in every other flippin' conversation.

That is 4d please.
Title: Fantasy Price List Wanted
Post by: RPGPundit on November 21, 2017, 06:03:15 AM
Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;1008498Bah!  I pound sterling is 20 shillings, and 12 pence to a shilling!  By the King's law!

And don't forget, the shilling as a coin didn't exist until the time of Henry VIII, it was purely a money of account.

And also don't forget the farthing and groat.

Oh, yeah, and the mark, which was ALSO a money of account but most records are kept in it!

Wheeeeee!

In my Dark Albion setting, the Egg recently replaced the Worm as the lowest form of currency.
Title: Fantasy Price List Wanted
Post by: rgrove0172 on November 21, 2017, 08:37:41 AM
Quote from: RunningLaser;1008081Not to threadjack, but rgrove- how are you liking Fantasy Age so far?  I know you were asking about it before.

Our campaign starts in a week or so after the holiday. I'll let you know then. I've spent the past couple of weeks furiously. Houseruling, adding stunt charts, specializations and so on.