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Fantastic Heroes & Witchery (New Retro-Clone)

Started by JeremyR, November 18, 2013, 06:51:18 AM

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RunningLaser

According to USPS's tracking, mine should be getting delivered today:)  Treated myself for Christmas this book and a few rpgs from Precis Intermedia.

RunningLaser

And just got the hardback in today.  Looks good.

languagegeek

Quote from: Turanil;720027Anyway, just so you know: the lulu sales are currently on hold. After doing two initial proof-readings, I was ashamed to find even more typos and errors on the books sold. So, we are at version 1.2, but it needs another proof-reading (which is slowly done with the help of a benevolent buyer of the book), and sales will be resumed with version 1.3. Thanks for your understanding. (Of course an errata will be put for download.)

I got my hardcopy in the mail as well, and look forward to reading it. Typos are a drag but won't interfere with play at the table so I'm not disappointed I got the pre-remove-from-Lulu copy.

Could you post here when the errata sheet is ready and the v1.3 PDF is available for download. Will you continue to offer the v1.3 PDF for free?

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Turanil

Quote from: languagegeek;722493Could you post here when the errata sheet is ready and the v1.3 PDF is available for download. Will you continue to offer the v1.3 PDF for free?
The errata sheet and V.1.3 PDF will be made available on the website for free, when they are ready.
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Gunslinger

This game would definitely replace any 3.5 or Pathfinder game I would ever run.  It's intuitive and the changes are enough to change the implied setting from D&D.  It scales back a 3.5 ruleset to a streamlined AD&D toolbox.  There's enough there for player option without the treadmill of character optimization, as the class provides that.  The interior and layout are impressive and easy to read.  My friends and I could play this with a quick glimpse and I could easily imagine incorporating a more gonzo style campaign with the tools provided.

My biggest complaint would be the cover.  It's a small detail but with a toolbox game you would think the cover would be simple, tomelike, or would at least graphically show more of the options presented in the book.  The cartoonish style reminds me more of a Basic D&D retoclone.  It really is a small complaint but with all the great work presented inside, it just doesn't seem it's the best foot forward.
 

Turanil

Quote from: Gunslinger;722792This game would definitely replace any 3.5 or Pathfinder game I would ever run.  It's intuitive and the changes are enough to change the implied setting from D&D.  It scales back a 3.5 ruleset to a streamlined AD&D toolbox.  There's enough there for player option without the treadmill of character optimization, as the class provides that.  The interior and layout are impressive and easy to read.  My friends and I could play this with a quick glimpse and I could easily imagine incorporating a more gonzo style campaign with the tools provided.
Thanks a lot! :)

Quote from: Gunslinger;722792My biggest complaint would be the cover.  It's a small detail but with a toolbox game you would think the cover would be simple, tomelike, or would at least graphically show more of the options presented in the book.  The cartoonish style reminds me more of a Basic D&D retoclone.  It really is a small complaint but with all the great work presented inside, it just doesn't seem it's the best foot forward.
Since you are the first to complaint, I don't think of changing the cover art. And I am not sure I would be able to create a better one. However, I would be interested to know what you would see on the cover if you were to decide. (So at least I get ideas for the other, future books.) For example: what is "tomelike"?
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Gunslinger

Quote from: Turanil;722858Since you are the first to complaint, I don't think of changing the cover art. And I am not sure I would be able to create a better one. However, I would be interested to know what you would see on the cover if you were to decide. (So at least I get ideas for the other, future books.) For example: what is "tomelike"?

My criticism isn't about your artistic ability and is probably more a reflection of my personal preference.  "Tomelike" would be a similar style used by the 3.x books.  The books look like tomes.  I'd use the end binding leather pattern for the whole cover and create an FH&M medallion logo for the cover.  It allows the interior content to set the tone.  If you feel that is too derivative of the 3.x books, I'd think about a simpler piece using symbology, keeping the book more enigmatic and yet still tying all the genres presented in the book.   Not to offend the Pundit, but I would look at Freemason symbol usage as a reference.  Classic and timeless.  

I will now step off my soap box as an art critic.  I'm a tad bit ashamed of being so critical on a REALLY minor issue.
 

LibraryLass

If you go with that, don't make it as overblown as the 3.5 ones were, though. Those were kind of corny.
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The Butcher

Quote from: The Butcher;709434I'll download the PDF and give it a read when I get home tonight.

I sure took my sweet fucking time, didn't I? :D

It was [strike]Aos'[/strike] Gib's comment over at another thread that made me finally take a look at this.

I really like it how the author readily offers the science-fantasy bits and pieces, the weird races and the Akrasia's-house-rules-like magic system.

I kind of want to run this, just not sure what for. I mean, other recent "second-wave" OSR games like AS&SH or ACKS are very clear on what they run like. FH&W is, I don't know, it's light on assumptions and very much presumes you won't use everything. But if you do, it's gonna be awesome.

I'm not making any sense, am I?

So, anyone playing or running FH&W? What are you doing with it?

Just Another Snake Cult

"Tome" covers are boring, and very often ugly (The 3.x books, I'm looking at you).
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Just so you know:

I have lately been correcting errors and typos, and changing a few things (such as the Scarlet Fist class being renamed Scary Monk, because maybe "Scarlet" would make it too close to a certain copyrighted brotherhood...). Then, I have been changing the names and rewriting almost 90 spells. I did so because I felt concerned that even my initial rewriting of the spells (those that weren't in the d20 SRD) might still be not OGL compliant. So, I significantly changed them, and I hope they are now far enough from those that inspired them. For instance, the Cacodemon spell disappeared. I replaced it with Cacophony of Demons, which I think is much more intriguing, flavorful, and lending more easily to role-playing.

QuoteAS&SH or ACKS are very clear on what they run like. FH&W is, I don't know, it's light on assumptions and very much presumes you won't use everything. But if you do, it's gonna be awesome.
Well, it's not a universe in itself, rather than an attempt of having everything in one book. Unfortunately for this concept of everything in one book, I now have ideas (and already written stuff) for a later "companion book" with more classes and races, and spells (including much more stuff on science-fiction). I would like to add about the game assumption, that it might also be seen as an evocation of the old Arduin intent of putting everything together in one place...
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Be sure to let us know when a print version is available again. Looked yesterday but nothing on Lulu :(

LibraryLass

I think, Turanil, you worry just slightly too much about possible infringement.
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Quote from: noismsI get depressed, suicidal and aggressive when nerds start comparing penis sizes via the medium of how much they know about swords.

Quote from: Larsdangly;786974An encounter with a weird and potentially life threatening monster is not game wrecking. It is the game.

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JeremyR

Quote from: LibraryLass;739657I think, Turanil, you worry just slightly too much about possible infringement.

Yeah.

Necromancer Games pushed it a lot of times, like with their original spell names.

Morden
Tensor
Otluke
Oto
Rarey
Nystal
Bigsby
Leomand
Mel  (which made me laugh, thinking of Mel's Diner and Vic Tayback)

And interestingly, Drawmiij

WOTC apparently didn't like it when Jim Ward used Drawmij (his name spelled backwards) and forced them to pulp some books, but I don't think they raised a peep over this. So apparently adding or subtracting one letter is enough.