Quote from: Pierce InverarityIt pains me to say it because I love the game. But fans of Classic Traveller can be rabidly defensive and parochial, especially now that T5 is on the horizon, and with it (shudder) change.

Not saying that T5 will be great. It will probably be bad. But they don't resent its possible badness--they resent its very existence, good or bad.

I've run across this as well on CotI, where T5 has been shot down before it even got published.

I especially wonder about the Planetary Scientist who apparently hates Traveller, but hangs out on a forum dedicated to Traveller just so that he can express his hatred for Traveller. When is enough, enough for someone like that?

You mean Malenfant? He's a good guy in my book, even though he sometimes loses it... but not without reason. Unlike some of the CT grognards he wants T5 to happen, and unlike Marc (it seems sometimes) he really really really wants T5 to become the best Traveller version ever. So, it's a two-front war for him, and that can get grating. But essentially, his point is not unreasonable.

The great thing about a game's annoying fans is that you instantly know who not to play it with.

Dr Rotwang! FTW, again. :win:

I pay attention to Actual Play reports. I don't give a fuck about fans. Also, Rotwang is right.

Quote from: ImperatorAlso, Rotwang is right.

You say that like he's ever wrong.

Quote from: BrantaiYou say that like he's ever wrong.

Oh, but he is, and frequently.  He just owns up to it.

I find it funny that I can meet the annoying authors and fans before ever purchasing a game in this day and age.  I guess I'm old fashioned.  I go to gameshops look at the game, decide to purchase it, try to play it, and then research questions I have with the author and fans.

Quote from: Dr Rotwang!Oh, but he is, and frequently.  He just owns up to it.

Huh? I missed the post where you renounced that Human League's decision to release a single was the pinacle of the 80's and instead bowed down in worship of the pop genius that is Cyndi Lauper?

:keke:

I was turned off to the Book of Erotic Fantasy (aka The Book of Elf Porn) because of ArthurQ. In the event that you weren't around ENWorld at the appropriate time, he was running around evangalizing the book at every turn. well before it had even come out, and as far as I know, he hadn't even seen a copy prior to its release. At Gen Con, he also invited the models who appeared in the book up to his hotel room for a "private photo shoot," prompting Anthony Valterra, the company owner to make it absolutely that Arthur had no connection to his company whatsoever, and that if they chose to accompany him to his room, they did so at their own risk.

Quote from: blakkieHuh? I missed the post where you renounced that Human League's decision to release a single was the pinacle of the 80's...

Never gonna happen.

Quote from: blakkie... and instead bowed down in worship of the pop genius that is Cyndi Lauper?

Cyndi is-a mah GIRL-frend.

Quote from: David JohansenSmug bastard.  He's probably playing D&D with naked supermodel geek girls right now!

They're vicious too.  They ripped through Shackled City like lightsabers through droids.  Fear the table filled with naked supermodel geek girls!

Normally I'm fine, but I especially abhor Rolemaster fanboys. :maniac:

And I like Rolemaster. :shrug:

Quote from: ClaudiusNormally I'm fine, but I especially abhor Rolemaster fanboys. :maniac:

And I like Rolemaster. :shrug:

Quote from: Caesar SlaadAlthough I will admit it wasn't the fans, but the philosophy, that held me from C&C, the constant pimping of the game at every turn by its fans really drove me batshit.

Hmmm ... I like both Rolemaster (or at least 2e/ 'Classic') and C&C.  

Plus I'm intrinsically annoying ... :raise:

See I can deal with people on the internet. It's easy to move past a post or completely ignore a thread. I am drawing all my experience from real life events. The rpg fans that turned me off my their beloved games is White Wolf fans. Here is the short and skinny. My group has been playing for the past 10 years off and on. Sometimes we lose a famaliar face and have to recruit a new one. We are open to many systems but our favorites would be SR and DnD. Call us vanilla. Whenever we get a new person in it mostly works out.

There has been 5 different occasions we found a person via the net or a "friend of a friend"  and they were diehard White Wolf fans. With the first person in particular, we were open minded with Vampire and would consider it after the campaign we had going. He said he was interested in playing our game from the start and we thought everything was cool. That's when he started criticizing every aspect of the game while inserting a shameless promotion for Vampire. We didn't ask this person for their opinion of the game we chose at any point. That ended quickly. The four other circumstances went by similiarly.

So it was ruined for us.