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"Excellence in Gaming"... LOL

Started by RPGPundit, June 25, 2023, 08:12:07 PM

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Rob Necronomicon

Quote from: Theory of Games on June 28, 2023, 06:32:20 PM

Your credibility isn't the issue - it's the award candidates', and how they're selected (which would explain the real purpose of the "award").


Exactly...

LouProsperi

I've edited/removed all of my posts on this thread. I'm clearly not a good fit for discussions on this site.

Sorry to have wasted anyone's time.

Theory of Games

Quote from: LouProsperi on June 28, 2023, 09:06:41 PM
I've edited/removed all of my posts on this thread. I'm clearly not a good fit for discussions on this site.

Sorry to have wasted anyone's time.

TTRPGs are just games. Friends are forever.

rkhigdon

Quote from: LouProsperi on June 28, 2023, 09:06:41 PM
I've edited/removed all of my posts on this thread. I'm clearly not a good fit for discussions on this site.

Sorry to have wasted anyone's time.

Why?  Because we didn't immediately bow to your credentials?  If you'd like to discuss something, then let's discuss it.

The fact that you immediately deleted your posts and bowed out of the thread indicates that you may indeed NOT be a good fit, but probably not for the reasons you think...

rytrasmi

Quote from: LouProsperi on June 28, 2023, 09:06:41 PM
I've edited/removed all of my posts on this thread. I'm clearly not a good fit for discussions on this site.

Sorry to have wasted anyone's time.

Yes, lack of immediate agreement and harmony must be difficult for you, as you probably come from a "good vibes only" echo chamber where everyone gets along (or at least pretends to).

So you react with passive aggression.

Too bad. You could have girded your loins and stuck around.
The worms crawl in and the worms crawl out
The ones that crawl in are lean and thin
The ones that crawl out are fat and stout
Your eyes fall in and your teeth fall out
Your brains come tumbling down your snout
Be merry my friends
Be merry

BadApple

I was really hoping he'd come back with how it was really celebrating "excellence" and not diversity.
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blackstone

Quote from: LouProsperi on June 28, 2023, 09:06:41 PM
I've edited/removed all of my posts on this thread. I'm clearly not a good fit for discussions on this site.

Sorry to have wasted anyone's time.


You know deep down, within the depths of you soul (which is about as shallow as a kiddie pool), that the arguments presented to you are the truth. There's no way you can truthfully acknowledge that this non-award is 100% pure virtue signaling, with the candidates primary qualifications are race, gender identification, and if they lean left in their politics.

Enjoy handing out your Participation Trophy for Just Showing Up.
1. I'm a married homeowner with a career and kids. I won life. You can't insult me.

2. I've been deployed to Iraq, so your tough guy act is boring.

Brad

Quote from: LouProsperi on June 28, 2023, 09:06:41 PM
I've edited/removed all of my posts on this thread. I'm clearly not a good fit for discussions on this site.

Sorry to have wasted anyone's time.

So, does this mean you acknowledge Pundit is correct in his assessment that the award is pure wankery? Because that's all this means. If you cannot support your position with an actual argument, the position is untenable. Feel free to go back to RPG.net, I am sure they enjoy the pud pulling.
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Theory of Games

Real nice, guys! You scared him off right when he was going to spill  >:(

He did have some nice credentials - except for Treasures of Greyhawk. Total garbage.
TTRPGs are just games. Friends are forever.

Rob Necronomicon

Quote from: Theory of Games on June 29, 2023, 01:15:52 PM
Real nice, guys! You scared him off right when he was going to spill  >:(

He did have some nice credentials - except for Treasures of Greyhawk. Total garbage.

Who knows what he did though? He could have just written about player safety or some other trite shit. For me, your 'credentials' are not with shit unless you've actually come up with an original concept or some innovative mechanics. Or you really were a pivotal figure in a particular game's development (including art, etc.).

Other than that, meh...

Brad

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on June 29, 2023, 02:32:07 PMWho knows what he did though?

Does it matter? If Gary Gygax himself was resurrected and created this award, it'd still be worthless virtue signaling. This is nothing more than some new clothing for the emperor, and if you plebs are too stupid to understand why it's the best thing ever, pish posh!
It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance.

Rob Necronomicon

Quote from: Brad on June 29, 2023, 02:35:58 PM
Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on June 29, 2023, 02:32:07 PMWho knows what he did though?

Does it matter? If Gary Gygax himself was resurrected and created this award, it'd still be worthless virtue signaling. This is nothing more than some new clothing for the emperor, and if you plebs are too stupid to understand why it's the best thing ever, pish posh!

That's what I was saying earlier... Someone's credentials don't mean squat if the 'award' is shall we say deliberately skewed.

LouProsperi

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on June 29, 2023, 02:32:07 PM
Quote from: Theory of Games on June 29, 2023, 01:15:52 PM
Real nice, guys! You scared him off right when he was going to spill  >:(

He did have some nice credentials - except for Treasures of Greyhawk. Total garbage.

Who knows what he did though? He could have just written about player safety or some other trite shit. For me, your 'credentials' are not with shit unless you've actually come up with an original concept or some innovative mechanics. Or you really were a pivotal figure in a particular game's development (including art, etc.).

Other than that, meh...

I'm not here to talk about the award. I'm clearly in the minority here, and I can understand why many of you have the views you have.

I may not agree with you, but that doesn't really matter. I am also of the belief that we can disagree agreeably. I'll even go so far as to apologize for my passive-aggressive approach to that part of the discussion.

That said, I do an have an issue with you casting doubt on my credentials as a RPG writer and designer, so I want to provide a bit more detail so you'll have a better idea of what I did for each of these.

* DC HEROES 2nd Edition: I play tested the game, and helped design (alongside Ray Winninger and Jack Barker) the stats for the characters in the "Background Roster Book" in the 2nd edition boxed set.

* CHILL 2nd Edition: I was the main person behind the changes to S.A.V.E. in the 2nd edition core rulebook. I also created the characters of RAX and Robert Alexander Davidson, the two narrators of the rulebook (though Ray Winninger wrote their actual words)

*TORG: I wrote short adventures called "Breaking New Ground" and "Full Moon Draw" in an adventure collection called "Full Moon Draw and Other Tales, a short adventure called "Bad Business" in an adventure collection book called "Cylent Scream and Other Tales", and wrote a supplement called "The Storm Knight's Guide to the Possibility Wars"

*Star Wars: I wrote a supplement called "Wanted by Cracken"

*AD&D Dark Sun: I designed a number of creatures in the Dark Sun Monstrous

*AD&D Greyhawk: I wrote two short adventures in Treasures of Greyhawk

*Shadowrun: I wrote an adventure called "A Killing Glare"

*Star Trek: TNG: I wrote about the planets Tellar and Andoria in "Planets of the Galaxy" and wrote the "Starbase 315" chapter of the TNG Player's Guid

*Hunter: The Reckoning: I wrote the chapter about Location-based Chronicles in the "Storyteller's Handbook

*Stargate SG-1: I wrote chapters in the Season One and Season Two sourcebooks.

From December 1992 through June 1998 I was the Product Line Developer for Earthdawn at FASA. During that time I lead the develop of the entire product line, designed rules systems, wrote supplements, and was (to use your words) "a pivotal figure in a particular game's development".

To be clear, I'm NOT saying that these credentials make my opinion any more valid than any of yours. I'm ONLY listing the above to provide more details about my work because you seem intent on questioning my credibility.


Take Care,

Lou Prosperi

S'mon

Quote from: LouProsperi on June 29, 2023, 04:39:05 PM
That said, I do an have an issue with you casting doubt on my credentials as a RPG writer and designer, so I want to provide a bit more detail so you'll have a better idea of what I did for each of these.

They know you're a games designer. But there are a bunch of other veteran games designers here with similar resumes.
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