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Exalted 3 - What the hell?

Started by DisgruntleFairy, February 24, 2014, 01:51:28 AM

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theye1

#915
March 13, 2015, 06:01:36 AM
The lack of updates, the excessive secrecy and obscenely long delay has almost ruined this project for me.

Nexus

#916
March 13, 2015, 08:20:35 AM
Quote from: theye1;819833The lack of updates, the excessive secrecy and obscenely long delay has almost ruined this project for me.

The secrecy thing is odd and the "Ask the Developers" thread really shines a spot light on it. Its got to be one of the most uninformative "Ask A..." discussions I've seen. The mechanics are off limits, sections of the fluff are off limits even some of the softball fan wank questions ("If Exalts were ice cream, what flavor would they be?" "What toppings would Kekjak get on his pizza?") go unanswered because the answers would be too "complex" or whatever.
Remember when Illinois Nazis where a joke in the Blue Brothers movie?

Democracy, meh? (538)

 "The salient fact of American politics is that there are fifty to seventy million voters each of whom will volunteer to live, with his family, in a cardboard box under an overpass, and cook sparrows on an old curtain rod, if someone would only guarantee that the black, gay, Hispanic, liberal, whatever, in the next box over doesn't even have a curtain rod, or a sparrow to put on it."

Nexus

#917
March 13, 2015, 08:49:41 AM
Anyone seen the fiction Anthology backers received? There seem to be either some inconsistencies or major changes from what's been said. For example an Air Aspect Terrestrial exalted as a Solar or is that a misunderstanding?
Remember when Illinois Nazis where a joke in the Blue Brothers movie?

Democracy, meh? (538)

 "The salient fact of American politics is that there are fifty to seventy million voters each of whom will volunteer to live, with his family, in a cardboard box under an overpass, and cook sparrows on an old curtain rod, if someone would only guarantee that the black, gay, Hispanic, liberal, whatever, in the next box over doesn't even have a curtain rod, or a sparrow to put on it."

Ladybird

#918
March 13, 2015, 09:42:00 AM
Quote from: theye1;819833The lack of updates, the excessive secrecy and obscenely long delay has almost ruined this project for me.

If it's good when it comes out, what do the delays and secrecy matter?

Just mentally put the game to one side, and look back in a few months.
one two FUCK YOU

Nexus

#919
March 13, 2015, 11:53:02 AM
Delays are annoying, extensive ones even more so.  I can't speak for everyone but for me its not the secrecy (though it is odd) its the constant baiting and "I know a secret but I won't tell *tee hee*" stuff that got on my nerves. You're not going to talk about it don't but that stuff got childish after awhile.
Remember when Illinois Nazis where a joke in the Blue Brothers movie?

Democracy, meh? (538)

 "The salient fact of American politics is that there are fifty to seventy million voters each of whom will volunteer to live, with his family, in a cardboard box under an overpass, and cook sparrows on an old curtain rod, if someone would only guarantee that the black, gay, Hispanic, liberal, whatever, in the next box over doesn't even have a curtain rod, or a sparrow to put on it."

Ladybird

#920
March 13, 2015, 12:10:11 PM
Quote from: Nexus;819869Delays are annoying, extensive ones even more so.  I can't speak for everyone but for me its not the secrecy (though it is odd) its the constant baiting and "I know a secret but I won't tell *tee hee*" stuff that got on my nerves. You're not going to talk about it don't but that stuff got childish after awhile.

I agree with you that sort of stuff is massively annoying, but I just don't see why that matters past the day of release. Past release day, the game should stand or fall based on it's own merits.
one two FUCK YOU

Nexus

#921
March 13, 2015, 12:23:12 PM
I can understand frustration, annoyance and not wanting to reward a person or company for asinine behavior. If I go out to eat and the service rude, slow and sloppy but foods good I'm not going back. There are other restaurants.
Remember when Illinois Nazis where a joke in the Blue Brothers movie?

Democracy, meh? (538)

 "The salient fact of American politics is that there are fifty to seventy million voters each of whom will volunteer to live, with his family, in a cardboard box under an overpass, and cook sparrows on an old curtain rod, if someone would only guarantee that the black, gay, Hispanic, liberal, whatever, in the next box over doesn't even have a curtain rod, or a sparrow to put on it."

Nexus

#922
March 13, 2015, 12:31:23 PM
I still think they should have went with Momentum instead of Initiative.
Remember when Illinois Nazis where a joke in the Blue Brothers movie?

Democracy, meh? (538)

 "The salient fact of American politics is that there are fifty to seventy million voters each of whom will volunteer to live, with his family, in a cardboard box under an overpass, and cook sparrows on an old curtain rod, if someone would only guarantee that the black, gay, Hispanic, liberal, whatever, in the next box over doesn't even have a curtain rod, or a sparrow to put on it."

Snowman0147

#923
March 13, 2015, 01:36:47 PM
Quote from: Ladybird;819872I agree with you that sort of stuff is massively annoying, but I just don't see why that matters past the day of release. Past release day, the game should stand or fall based on it's own merits.

Think is we live in a capitalist society and better companies out there that produce games.  I mean they get their kickstarters on time, they don't do secrecy bullshit, don't have a shitty attitude, and their books are good quality.  So yes base on this fact alone Exalted 3rd edition should fail.

Rincewind1

#924
March 13, 2015, 01:40:52 PM
Quote from: Snowman0147;819879Think is we live in a capitalist society and better companies out there that produce games.  I mean they get their kickstarters on time, they don't do secrecy bullshit, don't have a shitty attitude, and their books are good quality.  So yes base on this fact alone Exalted 3rd edition should fail.

Deserve's got nothin' to do with it.
Furthermore, I consider that  This is Why We Don\'t Like You thread should be closed

Warboss Squee

#925
March 13, 2015, 02:56:13 PM
Quote from: Nexus;819874I still think they should have went with Momentum instead of Initiative.

I think they should have scrapped the entire system and approached it from a different angle.  Polishing a turd doesn't make it any less a turd.

Brand55

#926
March 13, 2015, 05:24:56 PM
Quote from: Warboss Squee;819885I think they should have scrapped the entire system and approached it from a different angle.  Polishing a turd doesn't make it any less a turd.
It makes it a shiny turd. And as the guys behind Cards Against Humanity proved, lots of people will shell out money for feces.

theye1

#927
March 13, 2015, 08:21:17 PM
Quote from: Ladybird;819856If it's good when it comes out, what do the delays and secrecy matter?

Just mentally put the game to one side, and look back in a few months.

My problem isn't the delays, per se, but it's how the delays have been handled that I have an issue with. Ideally, when a functioning project has been delayed the development becomes more open. Except the opposite seemed to have happen for Exalted. As time goes on, the developers have become more secretive for no apparent reason at all. I still have no idea what the system looks like, because I refuse to look at the leaked documents.


Despite this, I am probably going to love Exalted.

James Gillen

#928
March 13, 2015, 09:35:17 PM
Quote from: Rincewind1;819880Deserve's got nothin' to do with it.

A phrase that applies so well to so many situations.

JG
-My own opinion is enough for me, and I claim the right to have it defended against any consensus, any majority, anywhere, any place, any time. And anyone who disagrees with this can pick a number, get in line and kiss my ass.
 -Christopher Hitchens
-Be very very careful with any argument that calls for hurting specific people right now in order to theoretically help abstract people later.
-Daztur

Nexus

#929
March 13, 2015, 11:30:54 PM
Well, the fiction anthology was apparently a bomb.
Remember when Illinois Nazis where a joke in the Blue Brothers movie?

Democracy, meh? (538)

 "The salient fact of American politics is that there are fifty to seventy million voters each of whom will volunteer to live, with his family, in a cardboard box under an overpass, and cook sparrows on an old curtain rod, if someone would only guarantee that the black, gay, Hispanic, liberal, whatever, in the next box over doesn't even have a curtain rod, or a sparrow to put on it."
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