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Exalted 3 - What the hell?

Started by DisgruntleFairy, February 24, 2014, 01:51:28 AM

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Warboss Squee

Quote from: gamerGoyf;733639What I never got about that debacle was what took so long? White Wolf fluff has pretty much always been a crime against humanity. I don't see how the rape ghosts where a bridge too far given what WW has already published.

Cause this was one of their own.  And the only thing that group likes better than finding a witch to burn, is tearing down one of their own.

Nexus

I meant more that you have to consider culture shifts when trying to understand why things like Rape Charms trainwreck took place when that sort of material is nothing new in Exalted.
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Rincewind1

Quote from: Nexus;733650I meant more that you have to consider culture shifts when trying to understand why things like Rape Charms trainwreck took place when that sort of material is nothing new in Exalted.

It's more of RPG.net board culture than culture shift in general. Reddit sings a very different tune.
Furthermore, I consider that  This is Why We Don\'t Like You thread should be closed

Snowman0147

Quote from: Rincewind1;733651It's more of RPG.net board culture than culture shift in general. Reddit sings a very different tune.

Quoted for truth.  The culture did shifted, but not to the extent of RPG.net board.  RPG.net is just a small fraction of people that is simply not worth catering too compared vast majority people who don't even use the internet to role play.  The people on the internet and in any thread are just small fish compared to the whale in real life.  Mostly because people don't care about social issues.  They just want to game in order to have fun.

Nexus

Quote from: Rincewind1;733651It's more of RPG.net board culture than culture shift in general. Reddit sings a very different tune.

 What is general tone on Reddit? I'm not familiar with it.
Remember when Illinois Nazis where a joke in the Blue Brothers movie?

Democracy, meh? (538)

 "The salient fact of American politics is that there are fifty to seventy million voters each of whom will volunteer to live, with his family, in a cardboard box under an overpass, and cook sparrows on an old curtain rod, if someone would only guarantee that the black, gay, Hispanic, liberal, whatever, in the next box over doesn't even have a curtain rod, or a sparrow to put on it."

Warboss Squee

Quote from: Nexus;733650I meant more that you have to consider culture shifts when trying to understand why things like Rape Charms trainwreck took place when that sort of material is nothing new in Exalted.

Except it could be argued, correctly IMO, that those charms were as rapey as the male lead in a trashy romance book.

Nexus

Quote from: Warboss Squee;733655Except it could be argued, correctly IMO, that those charms were as rapey as the male lead in a trashy romance book.

But they weren't anything particularly over the top compared to other things in the game since the beginning.
Remember when Illinois Nazis where a joke in the Blue Brothers movie?

Democracy, meh? (538)

 "The salient fact of American politics is that there are fifty to seventy million voters each of whom will volunteer to live, with his family, in a cardboard box under an overpass, and cook sparrows on an old curtain rod, if someone would only guarantee that the black, gay, Hispanic, liberal, whatever, in the next box over doesn't even have a curtain rod, or a sparrow to put on it."

Snowman0147

That is because Holden and the other writers want to ton it down to 6.  The yozis have no chance to escape and the neverborn are forever stuck in their deathless state.  The solars are not going to be as powerful as they once were and be more done to earth.

Nexus

Quote from: Snowman0147;733660That is because Holden and the other writers want to ton it down to 6.  The yozis have no chance to escape and the neverborn are forever stuck in their deathless state.  The solars are not going to be as powerful as they once were and be more done to earth.

I meant as far as being "edgey" and shocking not power level wise.
Remember when Illinois Nazis where a joke in the Blue Brothers movie?

Democracy, meh? (538)

 "The salient fact of American politics is that there are fifty to seventy million voters each of whom will volunteer to live, with his family, in a cardboard box under an overpass, and cook sparrows on an old curtain rod, if someone would only guarantee that the black, gay, Hispanic, liberal, whatever, in the next box over doesn't even have a curtain rod, or a sparrow to put on it."

Snowman0147

My point still stands.  They are toning down every thing and not just the power level.  Why do you assume we don't know what we are talking about?

Nexus

Quote from: Snowman0147;733663My point still stands.  They are toning down every thing and not just the power level.  Why do you assume we don't know what we are talking about?

I'm not assuming you don't know what you're talking about. I think we might be talking about two different things though. I don't think the reaction to the Abyssal charms was totally due to them being more "edgy" than anything else that's appeared in Exalted before but because there's been an increased sensitivity to such things overall. They can't be toning things down too (or weren't anyway) much in that regard as those charms were put fourth before the ruckus came up on rpg.net. Holden is part of the staff the originally wrote the charms in question and was trying to defend them before he knuckled under.
Remember when Illinois Nazis where a joke in the Blue Brothers movie?

Democracy, meh? (538)

 "The salient fact of American politics is that there are fifty to seventy million voters each of whom will volunteer to live, with his family, in a cardboard box under an overpass, and cook sparrows on an old curtain rod, if someone would only guarantee that the black, gay, Hispanic, liberal, whatever, in the next box over doesn't even have a curtain rod, or a sparrow to put on it."

Snowman0147

Quote from: Nexus;733664I'm not assuming you don't know what you're talking about. I think we might be talking about two different things though. I don't think the reaction to the Abyssal charms was totally due to them being more "edgy" than anything else that's appeared in Exalted before but because there's been an increased sensitivity to such things overall. They can't be toning things down too (or weren't anyway) much in that regard as those charms were put fourth before the ruckus came up on rpg.net. Holden is part of the staff the originally wrote the charms in question and was trying to defend them before he knuckled under.

Problem with that it is easy to defend your stuff.  You just defend it and if they continue on you just ignore them.  Tell them good day and just ignore them.  If you have to make a response just say you will put them in consideration and never focus on it.  Point is you don't have to deal with the SJW crowd and the truth is you won't loss much in terms of sales because they hardly buy any pnp rpgs in the first place.

Kiero

What the fuck is "SJW"? People keep referring to it as though we should all know what it means.
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Archangel Fascist

Quote from: Kiero;733716What the fuck is "SJW"? People keep referring to it as though we should all know what it means.

It stands for "Social Justice Warrior."

Snowman0147

Quote from: Kiero;733716What the fuck is "SJW"? People keep referring to it as though we should all know what it means.

My apologize and while Archangel explained it best SJWs are called social justice warriors.  They do nothing other than complain, dog pile, and just generally make the other person feel like shit so they get a ego boost.  Worst of all they don't even give a single shred of care about the topics they love to preach about.  If it came time to actually physically, emotionally, or do something truly helpful to another human being they rather not do any thing at all.  It is just a new type of troll.