Every now and then, I see a fresh reason to thank God I never followed through on my early interest in Exalted.

Quote from: Armchair Gamer;807445Every now and then, I see a fresh reason to thank God I never followed through on my early interest in Exalted.

Their Exalted has not been, and never will be my Exalted.

Meh. Don't bother with varying strengths, just add "restricts access to maiden tea" to the list of things the evil territories do. Job done.

I'd let it have the same reliable-contraception effect on males, though, even if it is a bit too much of a concession to the MRA brigade.

Quote from: Warboss Squee;807444oh wait, my Exalt is male, and he doesn't get the choice.

Unless he's mind-controlled and forced to have sex against his will, he has plenty of choice; do sex / do not do sex.

Although I will accept that "force woman to carry child she does not want to, with appropriate health risks" is another thing we can add to the "evil" list.

Quote from: Stephen Lea Sheppard;612597test

test post

Quote from: Warboss Squee;807448Their Exalted has not been, and never will be my Exalted.

No shit. That kind of hand-wringing is ludicrous. How hard would have this been?

"We added a reliable herbal contraceptive to the game."

or,

"We didn't add a reliable contraceptive to the game, but if you want one for your game, rock on. If you're interested, here's more about a historically known one. *shares Wikipedia link to Silphium*."

The rest is ridiculously unnecessary.

Quote from: Ladybird;807451I'd let it have the same reliable-contraception effect on males, though, even if it is a bit too much of a concession to the MRA brigade.

Unless he's mind-controlled and forced to have sex against his will, he has plenty of choice; do sex / do not do sex.

Men can be raped, drugged or intoxicated and forced to sire children against their will.

But the reason for adding incredibly effective, easily available birth control was to give female characters a degree of sexual freedom that they don't "realistically" have in low tech environments even though they have the same choice: don't want kids, don't have sex though there is the prospect of rape (which exists for men). They could just not have sex, turn to lesbianism or take the risk that so many women decide to take historically.

Men in modern settings can use condoms but there is a loss of som degree of pleasure and spontaneity, of course. So a drug that could control male fertility would be nice and give male characters an option besides celibacy or homosexuality*

Why is catering to one, well,  fantasy, worthwhile and the other "bowing to much to MRAs" and putting in a wonderfully effective contraceptive for qwomen so they don't have to worry about unwanted children not "bowing to much to feminist types"?


*Of course both sexes have the option of non reproductive sex acts but going into that much detail is probably too much for allot of games.

Quote from: Ladybird;807451Meh. Don't bother with varying strengths, just add "restricts access to maiden tea" to the list of things the evil territories do. Job done.

I'd let it have the same reliable-contraception effect on males, though, even if it is a bit too much of a concession to the MRA brigade.



Unless he's mind-controlled and forced to have sex against his will, he has plenty of choice; do sex / do not do sex.

I assume rape culture and The Patriarchy is why this is a male only choice.

I just read that shit and I am still wondering why that developer still has her job.  Okay all that info isn't going into any game that I know of and if it does go into a game I feel sorry for those players.  Not even World of Darkness chats do this kind of crap.  They just have no reproduction while still allow sex and ban rape.

Quote from: Nexus;807457Men can be raped, drugged or intoxicated and forced to sire children against their will.

...all of which would also be on the List of Evil Activities.

Quote from: Ladybird;807467...all of which would also be on the List of Evil Activities.

But why putting a setting element that allows women nearly unfettered sexual expression is fine but extending it to men is bowing to soo called MRAs when both have the same options if its not allow (don't have reproductive sex)?

Quote from: Ian Noble;807285This is very true. Big Purple has drifted Exalted's 'big damn heroes' 1e tone over to a LGBT Game of Thrones. Then 2e kind of cemented that and with 3e, since the patients are now running the asylum, I'm assuming there will be a strong push/continuance to anti-heroes.

It would be COOL as an LGBT Game of Thrones, and the reason it isn't that is touched upon by the Stephenls quote Nexus posted about "maiden tea" in Exalted.  These guys would think that Blue Rose isn't politically correct enough.

JG

Quote from: Nexus;807468But why

It was a throwaway joke about Exalted's agendaist nature.

Seriously, I'd just have it work the same way on everyone.

Quote from: Ladybird;807472It was a throwaway joke about Exalted's agendaist nature.

Seriously, I'd just have it work the same way on everyone.

Fair enough. its hard to determine tone sometimes. Thanks

I have never played Exalted, but based upon internet conversations it seems to be a game about sex, rape, abortions, more rape and yet more rape.

It seems to be the Storyteller System's version of F.A.T.A.L. But with people taking it seriously.

Quote from: jadrax;807486It seems to be the Storyteller System's version of F.A.T.A.L. But with people taking it seriously.

You know what is sad?  That isn't so far from the truth.  Some one should convince CCP to sell the IPs they own so Onyx Path won't touch it.  Seriously look at what they done to Exalted.  It used to be heroes who are chosen of the gods doing major things in the world and now even F.A.T.A.L. is laughing at Exalted in its grave.  Thanks Onyx Path you fucking ruined Exalted.  Please do not touch Scion because you done enough.